[THANKS ZOS] Rarest item in next DLC - 7,5 MONTHS to get ONE

NerfPlease

ENJOY THE NEW DROP CHANCE MADNESS, THANKS ZOS!

224 days to get one purple ring, if you will do 150k AP per day

So, after first PTS patchnotes i start thinking about new droppable item sets it introduced and figure out the rarest. I stopped at the new pvp sets

• Vicious Death
• Marksman
• Fury
• Leki's
• Fasalla's Guile
• Transmutation

all pictures here - http://deltiasgaming.com/2016/02/04/eso-thieves-guild-gear-sets
They are pretty interesting, with few VERY NICE sets, it must be very popular, im speaking about Vicious Death, yes
Marksman will be top-2 i believe

- they come with ALL parts
- the most wanted and expensive part of such sets is always jewerly
- rings is more expensive than amulets, well because we need 2
- and the most important - quality, we need maximum quality, to keep our set bonuses in the best state

how to get them:
1) gold and purple - rewards for campaign, top 2% leaderboard will get gold - confirmed. Not for us, we need this set faster

2) purple - new vendor Adhazabi Aba-daro will sell them for some amount of AP. The chance is unknown
3) blue and purple - from Reward for Worthy mails! Its our way to test the dropchance, cos on PTs you can open infinite amount of them - every template character has 511 mails, and you can delete characters without limits

MY TESTS

10659 mails was opened
307 jewerly was looted - its 2.88% chance
37 purple jewerly was looted - its 0.34% chance
156 rings was looted - its 1.46% chance
137 blue rings was looted - its 1.28% chance
19 purple rings was looted - its 0.17% chance
2 purple Vicious Death rings was looted - its 0.018% chance
4 purple Marksman rings was looted - its 0.037% chance
4 purple Fury rings was looted - its 0.037% chance
4 purple Leki's rings was looted - its 0.037% chance
5 purple Fasalla's Guile rings was looted - its 0.046% chance
0 purple Transmutation rings was looted - its unknown chance
my speculation is - all sets has the same chances, lets calculate the average
19/6=3.16 purple rings of any set - its 0.029% chance

Tell me, its okay and im just crazy to complain about such huge(*irony*) drop chance?
lets go futher and calculate amount of AP and gold for one purple VD ring

~3373 mails need to be looted for one purple VD ring. 1 mail=10k AP according to top PVP players
~33.730.000 AP need to be earned for one purple VD ring
exchange rate of AP to gold is 0,25:

~8.432.500 gold per ring is the real value
150k ap - regular player who love pvp earn in average per day
~224 days need to play for one ring

BEZDNA

I have 2 questions: who are you and how did you got my screenshot? (with gold jewely)

I looted today mails from 3 template characters - that's 30 milion AP and got 7 epic jewely items that is 4,3 milion AP for purple jewely, kinda very far away from yours 55.5 milions

Ra'Shtar

BEZDNA wrote: »

I have 2 questions: who are you and how did you got my screenshot? (with gold jewely)

I looted today mails from 3 template characters - that's 30 milion AP and got 7 epic jewely items that is 4,3 milion AP for purple jewely, kinda very far away from yours 55.5 milions

You got lucky.

NerfPlease

BEZDNA wrote: »

I have 2 questions: who are you and how did you got my screenshot? (with gold jewely)

I looted today mails from 3 template characters - that's 30 milion AP and got 7 epic jewely items that is 4,3 milion AP for purple jewely, kinda very far away from yours 55.5 milions

1) not all jewerly, but rings only
2) not all rings, but VD

Ahzek

@BEZDNA you need 4.3 mill for a purple ring. He is speaking about a ring of a specific set, so he can multiply that by 6 for ~26 mill AP per ring (assuming the droprates are the same per set). He doesnt think the dropprates are the same though and instead calculates with a 0.018% chance for a purple VD ring. Id personally assume its about a 0.04% chance judging from the mass mail openings you 2 have done.

NerfPlease

@BEZDNA in my tests single purple jewerly i got from 3624 mails
its 36.240.000 ap
so or you kinda lucky, or you lied, or they changed chances in todays patch

or you need to open more mails, not only 1533, to clear the results

NerfPlease

@Ahzek he opened 1533 mails

i opened x10

Ahzek

@NerfPlease indeed you did. but you also looted 4 of fury marksman etc. and 0 of transmutation. With the low sample size of actual purple rings id say thats a simple matter of randomness of you getting some sets more than others. I simply assume its the same chance for every set, and rounding up always makes it look nicer

GRxKnight

1 VD ring won't be worth 13 mil gold...if you're asking price is that you will get a laugh in the face from everyone wanting to buy it

NerfPlease

GRxKnight wrote: »

1 VD ring won't be worth 13 mil gold...if you're asking price is that you will get a laugh in the face from everyone wanting to buy it

indeed
i mean it will worth less, because ppl cant buy for real price

but in the moment this rings appear in the NEW vendor - all will buy tons of them, and the price will fall very fast

Anzriel

Well, if this is the drop chance that's more than a little silly. It should be relatively hard to get but that drop chance, if correct, is pretty ridiculous. Hopefully things will be adjusted before TG launches. I'd assume, or at least hope, they're adjusting the chances incrementally on the PTS until they get it to where they feel is fair.

BEZDNA

NerfPlease wrote: »

@BEZDNA in my tests single purple jewerly i got from 3624 mails
its 36.240.000 ap
so or you kinda lucky, or you lied, or they changed chances in todays patch

or you need to open more mails, not only 1533, to clear the results

lol, why would i lie about pts drop rates, that doesn't make any sense!

I got lucky indeed, first purple ring i got was exactly Vivious Death and i got it only from first 200 opened mails.




From those 3 template characters i got 1 Visious Death ring, 2 Rings of Fury, Necklace of Fury, Necklace of Transmutation, Marksman's Ring and Leki's Ring. Not that bad for in my opinion.

Ofc drop chanse is still kinda low.

On top of that as i remember Vicious Deaf Necklace was available from AP vendor on the first day of pts. As soon as those rings will be available market will be completely flooded with them, considering that are plenty of ppl with 10 milion + AP waiting how to make money out of that!

NerfPlease

indeed
ZOS forgot to delete jewerly from new vendor
their plan to show us horrible dropchance can be ruined by this vendor

Glory

I fear the drop rate too. This is the result of them not wanting us to use saved AP on new sets via updated loot boxes: ridiculously hard to obtain new items, and worthless AP.

Do you have a table of drops? I would be interested in hearing the rate of blue item drops (like blue rings).

RedRoomGaming

Couple of question.

1. How the hell did you get that much ap
2. How the hell did you get that much ap
3. What is this?
4. Is this the thieves guild drop for the new vendor in cyrodiil
5. And if (the above) does this mean the drops will be millions of gold for the purchases.

IcyDeadPeople

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

Couple of question.

1. How the hell did you get that much ap
2. How the hell did you get that much ap
3. What is this?
4. Is this the thieves guild drop for the new vendor in cyrodiil
5. And if (the above) does this mean the drops will be millions of gold for the purchases.

Every V16 PTS template character starts with 10m AP

Glory

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

Couple of question.

1. How the hell did you get that much ap
2. How the hell did you get that much ap
3. What is this?
4. Is this the thieves guild drop for the new vendor in cyrodiil
5. And if (the above) does this mean the drops will be millions of gold for the purchases.

This is a test, the PTS templates have a ton of AP, and thus give large quantities of rewards of the worthy. From there, he tested the drop rates of the PvP sets from the rewards bags.

There are a few ways you can get these sets (as OP already illustrated...): rewards for the worthy chance to drop, wait for the correct piece to come to the vendor, or get them from end of campaign rewards.

NerfPlease

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

Couple of question.

1. How the hell did you get that much ap
2. How the hell did you get that much ap
3. What is this?
4. Is this the thieves guild drop for the new vendor in cyrodiil
5. And if (the above) does this mean the drops will be millions of gold for the purchases.

well all explained in the first post. you need to read carefully next ime

NerfPlease

@ebethke_ESO i got 137 blue rings

its 1.28% for the blue rings

Holy-Dope

BEZDNA wrote: »

I have 2 questions: who are you and how did you got my screenshot? (with gold jewely)

I looted today mails from 3 template characters - that's 30 milion AP and got 7 epic jewely items that is 4,3 milion AP for purple jewely, kinda very far away from yours 55.5 milions

Well, the screenshot of Gold jewelry was uploaded by me not OP in another post. And second if you'd see other jewelries are as well gold. This came from the weekly rewards or pvp rewards, something i can;t remember as it was not me who received it but another guildy of mine...so keep an eye out, those ring monsters do exist....

NerfPlease

first post updated with

156 rings was looted - its 1.46% chance
137 blue rings was looted - its 1.28% chance

NerfPlease

why so many insightful?
people just dumb here?

HoloYoitsu

Waseem

who the hell cares!
FINALLY we can have golden quality jewlery

Sharee

I don't really care all that much. If it drops, great, if it doesn't, i'll just keep using my old set. At least cyro won't be flooded with everyone using the new sets from day one.

I_killed_Vivec

I imagine they will boost the drop rate at the start, so that people get a piece of something that interests them.

Then they will stealth nerf them so that it takes ages to get all the pieces you want

Holy-Dope

Sharee wrote: »

I don't really care all that much. If it drops, great, if it doesn't, i'll just keep using my old set. At least cyro won't be flooded with everyone using the new sets from day one.

Expect to see HIGH on Alchemist DOPE set NB Gankers from the day1. yeah,you guessed it right...it's coming....and it's bad....

BEZDNA

Holy-Dope wrote: »

Well, the screenshot of Gold jewelry was uploaded by me not OP in another post. And second if you'd see other jewelries are as well gold. This came from the weekly rewards or pvp rewards, something i can;t remember as it was not me who received it but another guildy of mine...so keep an eye out, those ring monsters do exist....

I know, i made that screenshot and it's my inventory out there on picture. Since I'm not a member of Sigma Draconis and don't think i ever saw you in game, i have to ask you - how did you got that screenshot? I just want to understand how something that i posted in What's Up chat for internal use of my guildies, made his way up to official forum, and who is that person who made it happen.

Paske

Its RNG

Its golden jewelry for most anticipated PVP set

Yes it will be rare.

Less then 1% drop chance for golden one is expected.

Top 100 players in Cyro will get it ?
Fine by me. Im so far from that I dont even care ...

M_TeK_9

Devs are absolutely dumb when it comes to loot in ESO. I really don't know who hired any of them and why they're still employed

DRXHarbinger

So it'd be awesome if every zerg rolled with VD set would it? kind of needs to be rare, the QQ'ing to follow once everyone starts going kaboom etc is going to be unreal, does anyone know if the explosion kills someone, does that person explode? Kind of like a Chain reaction?