Your Magicka, Health, and Stamina bars will now remain visible - Do you like it?

MissBizz

[EDIT] Please also voice your opinion via /feedback in game. [/EDIT]

I read the patch notes.. twice. Yet I didn't seem to catch this.

I was online today when a guildmate mentioned their stamina and health bar never going away.. I also noticed my magicka and health never going away. I disabled all addons, removed the folder, all that jazz. Just to be told that this was an INTENDED change. (I must have missed it) Now, if you have an active effect (such as food buff) the stat (mag,stam or health) that it effects - the bar will NEVER go away. To the point of turning all healthbars in the game "OFF" it still will not go away.

It was mentioned upcoming changes to the UI will be completely optional. I would have REALLY enjoyed this to be optional. I never noticed in the PTS as I was in IC and always seemed to be in battle - not peacefully questing. As someone who plays certain characters with minimal UI (no quest tracker, no quest markers on some) I would really prefer that this be an option.

Do you like the new change?

Your Magicka, Health, and Stamina bars will now remain visible while under an active effect, such as food buffs.

Rodvic

No

It needs to be an option. Forcing things like this on players is terrible imho.

Hopefully this is just a bug

MissBizz

No

Obvious choice as I made the poll and thread. I do not enjoy this new change.

I have sent in feedback and asked guildmates who have also stated their dislike for this change to do the same.

Don't worry though ESO, I still you. (But I will you more if this becomes an option )

UrQuan

No

I don't like it, and I would prefer for it to be an optional thing, but at the same time it doesn't bother me much. If you're going for full immersion I could see it being really annoying. For me it's just a little annoying.

MerlinGambino

No

I had no idea about this, this is terrible.

milkbox

No

I really dislike it. I use tri-food buffs, so now I have all bars visible, all the time.

I don't see how there's any benefit to seeing your base stats when you're not in combat. It just clutters the screen with unnecessary information.

I really hope a toggle is added in the near future.

MissBizz

No

Rodvic wrote: »

It needs to be an option. Forcing things like this on players is terrible imho.

Hopefully this is just a bug

@Rodvic I have confirmed it is not a bug. I thought it was at first, but was corrected. (Quote is inside spoiler tag)

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2202753/#Comment_2202753

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno My health and magicka bars will not go away. A fellow guildmate experiences health and stamina bars never going away.

I have disabled all add-ons.

I have moved add-ons to somewhere different (so they are not in the game at all)

I have turned Healthbars "OFF" in the actual game settings. Tried off just for my character. Then the blanket "OFF" switch and they STILL won't go away.

I also tried porting to somewhere different.. still there...

If there's anything else I can test. Let me know.

Sounds like this is by design. Per the patch notes:

• Your Magicka, Health, and Stamina bars will now remain visible while under an active effect, such as food buffs.

Does that sound like that's what's happening, @MissBizz?

Xendyn

No

For me personally, would be IDC as I use an addon with percentages that I prefer.
I understand your point of view, however, and any UI changes like that should be optional.

Kairin

No

Very annoying. Do not like. At all.

Moonscythe

Yes

Though the little unobtrusive disappearing circles as in Oblivion would have been fine. I like to know this info so it can be replenished as needed but I am all for options. Not everyone likes the same things and, apparently, even between characters there is some variability.

MilwaukeeScott

MissBizz wrote: »

Now, if you have an active effect (such as food buff) the stat (mag,stam or health) that it effects - the bar will NEVER go away.

It's always been that way on PS4. No need to disable any Addons, we don't have any.

Alucardo

No

The thing I loved about eso was the clean interface and it only showing UI features when applicable (or you wanted them to). This is a move in the wrong direction imho.

MissBizz

No

Moonscythe wrote: »

Though the little unobtrusive disappearing circles as in Oblivion would have been fine. I like to know this info so it can be replenished as needed but I am all for options. Not everyone likes the same things and, apparently, even between characters there is some variability.

@Moonscythe I really enjoy that you brought up the mention of even between characters. That rings very true for me. Even just for different types of gameplay on the same character. When quest I go extremely minimal, but when I hop in a dungeon I have a full on UI with minimap/combat log/buff tracker etc.

I would enjoy to toggle this "on" when I am in a dungeon (even though your bars suddenly appear and shrink when you buff goes away pre 2.1) but while questing I don't like it. ..to the point I didn't eat food again.

likewow777

No

While I voted No, I personally prefer to see those bars visible at all times. However, as others have stated, more options is better than less. I don't even mind the inconvenience of it being off by default, and having to turn it on myself, if it means having the option in the first place.

Psychobunni

I don't care

I voted I don't care because I use addon that changes the basic mode bars anyway

MissBizz

No

Psychobunni wrote: »

I voted I don't care because I use addon that changes the basic mode bars anyway

@Psychobunni I use an addon that squishes them together. Does your add-on by chance force the bars to become invisible when not injured/when at 100%? (I would install it in a heartbeat)

UrQuan

No

Psychobunni wrote: »

I voted I don't care because I use addon that changes the basic mode bars anyway

Have you checked to see if your addon is affected by this change? If the addon still allows the bars to disappear outside of combat, I'm sure people in this thread would be interested to know which addon it is.

Sithisvoid

No

No. When my bars go away i know to eat more food lol I know I'm a scrub but it's how I tell.

Violynne

I don't care

I don't know if this is applicable to consoles, but I voted "I don't care".

That's because, for the most part, h/s/m is usually hidden unless I'm in battle and take damage. However, any time I boost with provisioned items, they stay appeared, even if not in combat.

Hence, my answer.

NewBlacksmurf

No

This is a big deal to me. On console we get screwed as turning it off still pops up when buffed which is stupid. Off is off

Now it's always on which is stupid

ahstin2001nub18_ESO

I don't care

UrQuan wrote: »

I don't like it, and I would prefer for it to be an optional thing, but at the same time it doesn't bother me much. If you're going for full immersion I could see it being really annoying. For me it's just a little annoying.

this but i lean towards liking it.

Psychobunni

I don't care

MissBizz wrote: »

Psychobunni wrote: »

I voted I don't care because I use addon that changes the basic mode bars anyway

@Psychobunni I use an addon that squishes them together. Does your add-on by chance force the bars to become invisible when not injured/when at 100%? (I would install it in a heartbeat)

I don't see the in game bars at all. I'm using FTC (esoui.com/downloads/info28-FoundryTacticalCombatFTC.html )

However, mine never fade. You can adjust settings though.


It is kind of dumb if they set it up so you are forced to see the bars are the time. Options = Win. Forced = Fail. Every time.

(and sorry for delayed response)

JamieAubrey

I've always had mine shown

Leeric

No

Wow really? Thats just as annoying as the floating friends online symbol. I don't understand why they make it mandatory...wtf...

MissBizz

No

Psychobunni wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Psychobunni wrote: »

I voted I don't care because I use addon that changes the basic mode bars anyway

@Psychobunni I use an addon that squishes them together. Does your add-on by chance force the bars to become invisible when not injured/when at 100%? (I would install it in a heartbeat)

I don't see the in game bars at all. I'm using FTC (esoui.com/downloads/info28-FoundryTacticalCombatFTC.html )

However, mine never fade. You can adjust settings though.


It is kind of dumb if they set it up so you are forced to see the bars are the time. Options = Win. Forced = Fail. Every time.

(and sorry for delayed response)

@Psychobunni Thanks for the reply. *shudders* I don't like them, and they don't go away in combat.. BUT you can turn the opacity down to 0 when "out of combat" which effectively hides them. It's not pretty though

Oh, and yes, it is forced we look at the stat bar if we have a buff. Even turning the healthbar OFF doesn't make it go away

Avonna

they can make these bars visible all the time , but we dam if they put NUMBERS in them.....

Mitchblue

I use a add on that changes the look and puts numbers inside and I like them showing all the time.

Kalfis

You mean always shown in combat?

Mine still don't show out of combat

thunderwell

Yes

I don't see it as much of an issue.
In every MMO I played, the health and resource bars were always visible.
Same goes for most single player games.
Perhaps I'm just used to it, and I like to see them, however much they're filled.
If I want immersion, then I just ignore it, it's not that incredibly intrusive.

Avonna

yeah i use that add on too. just a shame something so simple seems to be so trivial for zos.

MissBizz

No

Kalfis wrote: »

You mean always shown in combat?

Mine still don't show out of combat

@Kalfis No, I mean shown at ALL times. If you have an active effect (such as a food buff on) you will see the bars ALL the time. In AND out of combat.

thunderwell wrote: »

I don't see it as much of an issue.
In every MMO I played, the health and resource bars were always visible.
Same goes for most single player games.
Perhaps I'm just used to it, and I like to see them, however much they're filled.
If I want immersion, then I just ignore it, it's not that incredibly intrusive.

You know, I'm actually incredibly surprised how much this bothers me. As mentioned before, I am most definitely not an "immersion only" person. I enjoy a full UI when I feel I need it (maybe a rather tough boss fight, or ALL dungeons). I guess I was used to the immersive option ESO gave me (or, well, some addons helped with that).