110-150 Raw Materials To Craft ONE VR16 Item!?

Ixtyr

You have GOT to be kidding me.

Ixtyr

And it's 140 for 2H Weapons and 150 for Chest/Legs.

PLEASE change this.

Don't let this game become an absolutely insane grindfest.

DirtySmeegs33

Maybe the availability of the mats is jacked up too so it's all relative? Keep testing!

NewBlacksmurf

Hmm so hold onto my mats....ouch!
Guess I'll jump on PTS this weekend

Mos-De-Atmo

It should mean that I can sell the materials pretty easily at least.

NewBlacksmurf

...typo...

Pangnirtung

But will you be able to buy materials in the Crown Store?

Storm_knight22

RIP equipment crafting. They're also planning to remove the bonus you get from crafted items. Add the LUDICROUSLY INSANE amount of materials and crafting will be totally pointless. Everyone will just use whatever items they pick up.

Ixtyr

Materials cost an insane amount of Tel Var stones too.

100 Tel Var Stones per ONE raw material from the vendor.

Deconning items has yielded a grand total of ***if I'm lucky*** one raw material per decon.

This is an insane hike over existing crafting tendencies.

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Oh, and for good measure - that 110 TVS cost for the VR16 item comes after the 11 TVS cost of the VR15 version.

That's absolutely ludicrous.

Preyfar

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

RIP equipment crafting. They're also planning to remove the bonus you get from crafted items. Add the LUDICROUSLY INSANE amount of materials and crafting will be totally pointless. Everyone will just use whatever items they pick up.

Yeah, that kind of bummed me out. It's been stated for a long time player crafted equipment would always have a slight edge over dropped, but now they're removing that. Sad times.

MaxwellC

What I don't like is the fact that I see based on the icon that the new metal does not change the swords detail whatsoever. I guess swords will no longer receive any more detail enhancements after veteran ranked armor huh.

Ixtyr

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

What I don't like is the fact that I see based on the icon that the new metal does not change the swords detail whatsoever. I guess swords will no longer receive any more detail enhancements after veteran ranked armor huh.

No, I'm pretty sure that's just the icon. The actual look of the sword is different (the same way Calcinium is different from Voidstone).

ThatNeonZebraAgain

Yea so far the mechanics behind a lot of the changes in this update/DLC are just huge (and often convoluted) grinds. Very sad because IC itself is awesome, but they have to essentially make the game systems pretty inconvenient so they can then sell you the means to bypass such annoyances through Crown Store.

MCMancub

They add this grind to try and keep you busy until the next DLC comes out. If you could immediately get access to all the new content, you'd likely grow bored within the week.

Storm_knight22

MCMancub wrote: »

They add this grind to try and keep you busy until the next DLC comes out. If you could immediately get access to all the new content, you'd likely grow bored within the week.

LMAO "Grind mindlessly until the next DLC comes out which will make everything you grinded for obsolete. Then repeat"

Great plan

OzJohnD

good thing I have heaps stored up from the V1-14 grind

Ixtyr

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

They add this grind to try and keep you busy until the next DLC comes out. If you could immediately get access to all the new content, you'd likely grow bored within the week.

LMAO "Grind mindlessly until the next DLC comes out which will make everything you grinded for obsolete. Then repeat"

Great plan

Well, to be fair...this is an MMORPG. Grinding, as much as we hate it, is a cornerstone of these sorts of games, historically speaking.

I still don't like it.

Ixtyr

OzJohnD wrote: »

good thing I have heaps stored up from the V1-14 grind

Except they're new Raw Materials.

Soulshine

OzJohnD wrote: »

good thing I have heaps stored up from the V1-14 grind

Stored mats dont apply. This is the recipe requiring new mats

OzJohnD

Ixtyr wrote: »

OzJohnD wrote: »

good thing I have heaps stored up from the V1-14 grind

Except they're new Raw Materials.

oh well .. *sigh* no reason to rush to V16 then is there

MCMancub

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

They add this grind to try and keep you busy until the next DLC comes out. If you could immediately get access to all the new content, you'd likely grow bored within the week.

LMAO "Grind mindlessly until the next DLC comes out which will make everything you grinded for obsolete. Then repeat"

Great plan

Who said it was going to be made obsolete? Anyways, grinding is an essential part of any game wanting to keep players around. Actual content is finite.

OzJohnD

agreed - grinding (aka time sink) is part of ANY and EVERY MMO ... otherwise you get to the new endgame in a few hours and leave, again

Djeriko

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

What I don't like is the fact that I see based on the icon that the new metal does not change the swords detail whatsoever. I guess swords will no longer receive any more detail enhancements after veteran ranked armor huh.

They stopped making visual enhancements even before vet level. Once you hit dwarven ore level (high 30's), your weapon/armor appearance is the same after that. Guess they ran out of ideas for enhancements on appearance.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Also 110 ingots per one sword is insane. It make no sense. How big is this sword supposed to be? Is it going to be the size of a boat? I know this is a fantasy game but lets not make someone have to burn half a stack of basic mats for one sword.

Also Love how we are throwing the fact that we want players to craft stuff out of the window. Is this deterrent now? Are we supposed to stop crafting in favor of drops since you raise the mats needed to craft and make drops the same level as crafted stuff? Bad ideas guys.

Oh and don't forget the shield dyes!

Soulshine

Keeping the number of mats required this high will just send more crafters who are already griping about having to go into IC for the mats into an even bigger tizzy fit. LOL. It is going to be an interesting late summer/fall around here.

OzJohnD

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

What I don't like is the fact that I see based on the icon that the new metal does not change the swords detail whatsoever. I guess swords will no longer receive any more detail enhancements after veteran ranked armor huh.

but they are sharper ...

xaraan

Oh, also...

I didn't see any Raw Materials, only finished ingots and stuff. And I only got one piece 50% of the time when breaking down gear. It took me about ten pieces of wood materials to get 3 of the new wood. Probably about 20-30 metal pieces to get 11 ingots and that same 50%ish rate on the two types of clothing materials. And writs are still void level, not the new level stuff.

So it will take thousands of weapon and gear drops to get enough materials for one vr16 piece. Oh, and the drop rates seem much much lower than in normal pve areas.

Or you can buy them with TVStones, which cost 100 per 1, so like 130,000 stones to make a vr16 belt.

every

single

thing

about this update just comes off as a boring grind

ThatNeonZebraAgain

Xaraan, don't forget the new glass motif and planar thingies! Yayyyy

xaraan

ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

Xaraan, don't forget the new glass motif and planar thingies! Yayyyy

Hey, you only need to get 200 or so fragments to put together that one glass motif!

Acrolas

(Board meeting)

Suit 1: We released the game!
(everybody cheers)
Suit 2: Now what?
Suit 1: What do you mean?
Suit 2: What happens next?
(long silence)
Suit 3: Take all reasonable numbers and add a zero?
Suit 1: Go on.
Suit 3: Say that because you're only paying 33% of the base game price for the game pack, you should expect to do 66% more work?
Suit 1: ...
Suit 2: Sir?
Suit 1: I'm just reeling from how GOD DAMN BRILLIANT that is.

Lynx7386

Think I'm done with eso. They're driving this game to the grave with some of these changes.

Farorin

Well that kinda sucks.

Hoping they change it a bit to make crafting a bit more available to those of us who don't grind all day erry day..