To everyone saying the fire horse is lore breaking

bosmern_ESO · March 2015

Previous ES games would like to have a word with you.

There are more horses then just the normal ones in Elder scrolls lore.

Gidorick · March 2015

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Valymer · March 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

But they were single-player games...

Bookwyrm · March 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Yes, in a single-player game in which you, the player, were the only Champion/Hero/Etc.

In this instance, we are playing an MMO, in which all players are "the" Champion/Hero/Etc. The dynamics have changed a bit, and that's okay. That's just part of it being an MMO.

Mr.Hmm · March 2015

The fire Horse is not lore breaking proof is Shadowmere(Dark Brotherhood ) and Avrak is a horse added by Dawnguard Addon, its a dead horse that the player saved and since then it belongs to the player.

UrQuan · March 2015

Bookwyrm wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Yes, in a single-player game in which you, the player, were the only Champion/Hero/Etc.

In this instance, we are playing an MMO, in which all players are "the" Champion/Hero/Etc. The dynamics have changed a bit, and that's okay. That's just part of it being an MMO.

I'm fine with that, but from a lore standpoint I would like it if buying one of these special mounts actually meant that you bought a quest that you had to complete in order to earn access to the mount. Wishful thinking, I know.

Neizir · March 2015

UNICORN MOUNT!

ZENIMAX, GIVE US IT!

Bookwyrm · March 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Bookwyrm wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Yes, in a single-player game in which you, the player, were the only Champion/Hero/Etc.

In this instance, we are playing an MMO, in which all players are "the" Champion/Hero/Etc. The dynamics have changed a bit, and that's okay. That's just part of it being an MMO.

I'm fine with that, but from a lore standpoint I would like it if buying one of these special mounts actually meant that you bought a quest that you had to complete in order to earn access to the mount. Wishful thinking, I know.

Actually, on that point I do agree. I think mounts that are this "unique" should definitely have a quest (or at the very least an achievement) attached. I mean, even in the single-player games you couldn't just walk up to a salesperson and purchase one of the unique mounts like Shadowmere or Arvak. They had to be earned. I would much prefer them be achievable that way.

But are they lore-breaking? No. Not at all, and I don't have any issue with them being in-game. Now, if we did actually start seeing motorcycles and whatnot, that would be an issue for me, but something that is fairly well established lore-wise, I'm good. And I don't see it likely that we'll start seeing things that are as incredibly far-fetched as people are fussing over. I could be wrong, but let's hope not.

bosmern_ESO · March 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Bookwyrm wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Yes, in a single-player game in which you, the player, were the only Champion/Hero/Etc.

In this instance, we are playing an MMO, in which all players are "the" Champion/Hero/Etc. The dynamics have changed a bit, and that's okay. That's just part of it being an MMO.

I'm fine with that, but from a lore standpoint I would like it if buying one of these special mounts actually meant that you bought a quest that you had to complete in order to earn access to the mount. Wishful thinking, I know.

I'm sure they will add rare mounts that drop from bosses or earn from complete of incredibility (getting a very hard achievement or someone extremely hard in game, thins like 10k achievement points or something). Hopefully they will get added soon to have really cool and rare mounts in the game.

Gidorick · March 2015

Doesn't have to be. They could handle these sorts of things more eloquently... like...

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lol. I made a thread about that here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/154672/serious-crown-store-suggestion-but-with-levity

But seriously, they didn't have to sell this kind of unique mount. They could have unique mounts be limited things that players earn in game OR buffs that you can apply to your mount. Imagine if you could use a potion and BOOM... your horse is now a flame horse! or ice horse... or earth horse... or ghost horse... whatever. Up the speeds on the horse, unlimited stamina... last for 30 minutes or an hour or so. Sell those potions in the crown store.

This way it would be a "cool" thing to see a fire horse zoom by. Not something that is annoying and distracting.

eNumbra · March 2015

They're not lore breaking, it's just silly that you can buy them. Mounts like the Fire Horse, Shadowmere, Arvak or the unicorn should require some questing to get.

Gidorick · March 2015

eNumbra wrote: »

They're not lore breaking, it's just silly that you can buy them. Mounts like the Fire Horse, Shadowmere, Arvak or the unicorn should require some questing to get.

yes. yes. yes. this. 100000X this... I've said this before. SOME Crown Store items should require quests or at the Very least... unlock them.

Samadhi · March 2015

Anyone who isn't on a guar is doing it wrong anyway.

Iluvrien · March 2015

Samadhi wrote: »

Anyone who isn't on a guar is doing it wrong anyway.

Stinky Nords shouldn't get to ride our lovely guars! They don't deserve that honour!

bosmern_ESO · March 2015

eNumbra wrote: »

They're not lore breaking, it's just silly that you can buy them. Mounts like the Fire Horse, Shadowmere, Arvak or the unicorn should require some questing to get.

Like I said above, hopefully there will be unique mounts added in the game that dont require crowns to purchase them.

But every once in a while they will add new mount like the fire one because they know tons of people will buy into that.

Drazhar14 · March 2015

+1 for purchasing a quest DLC from the store that lets you get certain rare cosmetics like flame horse.

riverdragon72 · March 2015

eNumbra wrote: »

They're not lore breaking, it's just silly that you can buy them. Mounts like the Fire Horse, Shadowmere, Arvak or the unicorn should require some questing to get.

I payed to beta this still broken game for nearly a year. I'll take my flame horse thank you, and you will like it.

phairdon · March 2015

Cash shops are designed to make money, so in this regard, far from surprised nightmare coursar is sold through it.

ThisOnePosts · March 2015

It's definitely not lore-breaking. However, yes I would like to see some mounts, etc.. behind achievements or solo quests.

However, I think the fire-horse is straight up awesome. Good job ZOS!

Divad Zarn · March 2015

Still prefer guar and there isnt any fire/galactic power horse which will be better then those sweet guars

Cinbri · March 2015

It is nightmare horse from Skyrim Dark brotherhood, so i didnt get about lore breaking issue

Kragorn · March 2015

Cinbri wrote: »

It is nightmare horse from Skyrim Dark brotherhood, so i didnt get about lore breaking issue

That horse doesn't exist in the time ESO is set, nothing in the game 'Skyrim' does that isn't immortal and that horse certainly isn't immortal.

SantieClaws · March 2015

I live in London. I am used to seeing people dressed as chickens, batman, spiderman etc on public transport. Weird is pretty normal here. I wouldn't blink if I saw a pink elephant ambling down the street outside work.

A flaming horse in Tamriel makes no difference to me - it 'sticks out' less to me than those dwemer pets I see gadding about all over Daggerfall these days.

It can't be too comfortable for the horse though....

Knootewoot · March 2015

They just added the firehorse to the lore. Deal with it. It will fit my character perfectly.

Now if they will just add a rainbow-whale as pet and I am happy

cote-bmsb16_ESO · March 2015

They dont even know whats in the lore.. LoL There are so many cool mounts from Stilt Striders, Shadow Mare, to the Unicorn and even a Dragon at one point in Skyrim.

Keepercraft · March 2015

Knootewoot wrote: »

They just added the firehorse to the lore. Deal with it. It will fit my character perfectly.

Now if they will just add a rainbow-whale as pet and I am happy

looooooooooooooooooool

bloodenragedb14_ESO · March 2015

it should have been a undead mount, i mean that would be easily explained why there are thousands of them, necromancy

Rosveen · March 2015

Kragorn wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

It is nightmare horse from Skyrim Dark brotherhood, so i didnt get about lore breaking issue

That horse doesn't exist in the time ESO is set, nothing in the game 'Skyrim' does that isn't immortal and that horse certainly isn't immortal.

Except she actually is immortal. Sort of. It isn't entirely consistent between games, but she's likely daedric in origin: in Oblivion she couldn't die at all, in Skyrim her physical body died, but she respawned - just like daedra do.

Or y'know, the Void itself given shape.

Frawr · March 2015

Yeah add rainbow whales please. And flying horses. And flying 'mylittlepony''.

And big dragons.

And definitely rancors

Merlin13KAGL · March 2015

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Previous ES games would like to have a word with you.

There are more horses then just the normal ones in Elder scrolls lore.

You nabbed it too, huh?

First time I came across this and his three friends, I hopped on and exited the area - thinking I was saving him...

Couldn't figure out why every time I'd leave him be for more than a minute, he'd start wandering back to his original location. "They're gonna kill you, don't you know that??"

Finally, after breaking out my weapon once (not in battle), the stupid thing attacked me, so that was it.

I had corralled it behind a closed gate to keep it from wandering off prior to that. When it snapped, I let it go back to its doom... (Made the quest that later involved it much easier to take.)

Anyway, it is lorebreaking...but so are jesters, chefs, and brides riding into battle on guar mounts, as well as Dogs, Pigs, and Monkeys standing in the lava while you fight VS in City of Ash...

It makes $. It stays.

It's really that simple.

Knootewoot · March 2015

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Previous ES games would like to have a word with you.

There are more horses then just the normal ones in Elder scrolls lore.

You nabbed it too, huh?
First time I came across this and his three friends, I hopped on and exited the area - thinking I was saving him...

Couldn't figure out why every time I'd leave him be for more than a minute, he'd start wandering back to his original location. "They're gonna kill you, don't you know that??"

Finally, after breaking out my weapon once (not in battle), the stupid thing attacked me, so that was it.

I had corralled it behind a closed gate to keep it from wandering off prior to that. When it snapped, I let it go back to its doom... (Made the quest that later involved it much easier to take.)

Anyway, it is lorebreaking...but so are jesters, chefs, and brides riding into battle on guar mounts, as well as Dogs, Pigs, and Monkeys standing in the lava while you fight VS in City of Ash...

It makes $. It stays.

It's really that simple.

How are Brides riding on guars lorebreaking? Maybe she was about to be wed and her Groom was murdered by some cheating EP scum.

Same for chefs and jesters. They could have their reasons to join the fight. Poisoned food, customers complaining on facebook for the chef or dead kings or to much rotten tomatoes for the jester.