To everyone saying the fire horse is lore breaking

Knootewoot

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psufan5

Wait, people are actually crying over this? lol...

Merlin13KAGL

Knootewoot wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Previous ES games would like to have a word with you.

There are more horses then just the normal ones in Elder scrolls lore.

You nabbed it too, huh?

First time I came across this and his three friends, I hopped on and exited the area - thinking I was saving him...

Couldn't figure out why every time I'd leave him be for more than a minute, he'd start wandering back to his original location. "They're gonna kill you, don't you know that??"

Finally, after breaking out my weapon once (not in battle), the stupid thing attacked me, so that was it.

I had corralled it behind a closed gate to keep it from wandering off prior to that. When it snapped, I let it go back to its doom... (Made the quest that later involved it much easier to take.)

Anyway, it is lorebreaking...but so are jesters, chefs, and brides riding into battle on guar mounts, as well as Dogs, Pigs, and Monkeys standing in the lava while you fight VS in City of Ash...

It makes $. It stays.

It's really that simple.

How are Brides riding on guars lorebreaking? Maybe she was about to be wed and her Groom was murdered by some cheating EP scum.

Same for chefs and jesters. They could have their reasons to join the fight. Poisoned food, customers complaining on facebook for the chef or dead kings or to much rotten tomatoes for the jester.

@Knootewoot , it's more the quantity than the quality.

I can see the occasional individual snapping and going on a rampage...Azura knows there's some crazy out there, but when it looks like the Kitchen and Bridal show all went to lunch and got hammered...well...

Perhaps the Jesters were the entertainment, the brides weren't amused, went to lunch, got lit, tipped poorly, and the rest ensued?

I suppose anything's possible.

eNumbra

riverdragon72 wrote: »

eNumbra wrote: »

They're not lore breaking, it's just silly that you can buy them. Mounts like the Fire Horse, Shadowmere, Arvak or the unicorn should require some questing to get.

I payed to beta this still broken game for nearly a year. I'll take my flame horse thank you, and you will like it.

They already tricked us into paying to beta test their game for a year until they released it on consoles, if you want to continue buying into their shenanigans, go right ahead.

Cinbri wrote: »

It is nightmare horse from Skyrim Dark brotherhood, so i didnt get about lore breaking issue

No. No its not. Shadowmere is not cloaked in flame.

ItsGlaive

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

Erock25

I don't care about Lore or whatever, but I did enjoy the somewhat realistic feel to how ESO looks. I know there are cats and lizards running around and people teleporting all over the place, but it had a gritty, real-world type feel to everything that for me gets ruined when I see 100 flame eye/hoofed horses running around. I'll get used to it, but I wish it wasn't offered in the first place.

BBSooner

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Previous ES games would like to have a word with you.

There are more horses then just the normal ones in Elder scrolls lore.

The existence of a Nightmare isn't lorebreaking. However, if it doesn't make sense to have 1000's of them in various armies making war against eachother in Cyrodiil then it's cheesy. Same for the Senche mount: not lore breaking, but cheesy to see a bunch of wedding dressed nords riding senche fighting wedding dressed orcs. Same for Thu'um, same for flying mounts, same for Dwemer motorcycles, same for airships, etc.

bosmern_ESO

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

You might want to learn the difference between a MMO and a single player is then.

Garbrac

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

So what about all the players in the game running around. Each one meeting and saving the prophet only to possibly kill him, each one defeating Molag Bal, each one being the hero that Tamriel deserves....

Gidorick

Garbrac wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

So what about all the players in the game running around. Each one meeting and saving the prophet only to possibly kill him, each one defeating Molag Bal, each one being the hero that Tamriel deserves....

From my perspective they are just other adventures, they are not the Vestige. I do not see them on my main story quests. also, from my perspective, there are a bunch of fire horses running around.

So there is a difference.

WebBull

F2P is lore breaking.

Kalman

Who cares it looks cool.

ItsGlaive

Garbrac wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

So what about all the players in the game running around. Each one meeting and saving the prophet only to possibly kill him, each one defeating Molag Bal, each one being the hero that Tamriel deserves....

They're not, I'm the only vestige. See, from a game perspective, this is why the main quest is solo, because you as the player are the only one. Everyone else are just residents and troops

Gidorick wrote: »

Garbrac wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

So what about all the players in the game running around. Each one meeting and saving the prophet only to possibly kill him, each one defeating Molag Bal, each one being the hero that Tamriel deserves....

From my perspective they are just other adventures, they are not the Vestige. I do not see them on my main story quests. also, from my perspective, there are a bunch of fire horses running around.

So there is a difference.

Like this guy said.

Verdwhisper

The horse not looking cool to me.

Dunosaur

It doesn't break lore & if your concern is why so many exist well technically you're only hero/heroine in ESO the single-player acts as if none of the other players exist, it's a mmo but story is treated like a single-player for most part.

Elridge

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

The fire Horse is not lore breaking proof is Shadowmere(Dark Brotherhood ) and Avrak is a horse added by Dawnguard Addon, its a dead horse that the player saved and since then it belongs to the player.

cept you know.. there's only one Shadowmere who is immortal and lives through the times, passing onto new owners. Not hundreds of them running around at once.

It's kind of a grey area lore wise.. no one really knows what was going on in this era, so they could come up with whatever they want to to "justify" things, so lorebreaking... no.. but having a flaming horse be so common? That kinda screams "standard b2p/f2p cash grab" made to look badass for the sole purpose to sell... Why do that in a lore rich world, where there are many unused mounts in the current lore to use?

Anvos

Not lore breaking but definant example of how something can look cool when its unique and rare but rather lame when there are hordes of the buggers running around.

Also its a horse that costs more than imperial edition upgrade.

GreySix

eNumbra wrote: »

They're not lore breaking, it's just silly that you can buy them. Mounts like the Fire Horse, Shadowmere, Arvak or the unicorn should require some questing to get.

Indeed.

Dude in Tamriel wrote:

Whoa, look at that cool fire horse! You must have reached the apex of the Dark Brotherhood through glorious questing!

Low-Level Newbie wrote:

Nah, I thought it was cool lookin', so I bought it at the Crown Store.

Dude in Tamriel wrote:

Oh ... I see.

Mettaricana

lore doesnt bother me in the games whose to say my fire horse isnt a spell from alteration? also Lore is only true as long as it remains intact were in the midst of a war chances are modern series lore is based on skewed and barely surviving facts and accounts of what survived the cyrodil war and molag bal. authors of lore could have died and others could have picked up and altered their lore entries trying to fill in the blanks leaving a modern semi false lore account. which eventually leads to lore hunters trying to justify every inaccuracy they find.

remember skyrim and how the legends say they destroyed alduin. but lore breaking wrong they didn't they just tossed him into the future for the present day lore lovers to deal with using their anger and butt hurtery logic. just like the elder scrolls nothing is set in stone.

Tandor

I don't understand why we can't have motorcycles. If they're good enough for WoW...

/duck

Mettaricana

Tandor wrote: »

I don't understand why we can't have motorcycles. If they're good enough for WoW...

/duck

alteration spell conjure meat bicycle! summon a flesh atronach meat bike!

Grapdjan

It's a great looking mount, and will make some good dollar, end of story

RainfeatherUK

Hmm so I can be happy that someone is happy with their fire horse. (nearly typed hose lol o.o)

I can be sad that some people arent happy about the amount of fire horses and that spoils their game.

Yet without inticing things on the cash shop people wont spend any money. Meaning less development resources for a game which has costly expenses, like continued VO and upcomming environments (clockwork city cheer!)

So since nobody wants to be the guy/gal without the special horse, I'll just ignore them and let them have it if they want it. Because the life of the game is more important than my opinion and the more that is generated towards that end the better.

Business is business. I just want ESO to endure and to have people to play it with :thumbsup:

tallenn

Cinbri wrote: »

It is nightmare horse from Skyrim Dark brotherhood, so i didnt get about lore breaking issue

The issue is that it has nothing whatsoever to do with the Dark Brotherhood. That horse should have been a quest reward in the DB quest line, not a cash shop mount.

Nobody's saying the horse doesn't belong in Elder Scrolls, we're saying it doesn't belong outside of the context of the Dark Brotherhood.

Elridge

tallenn wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

It is nightmare horse from Skyrim Dark brotherhood, so i didnt get about lore breaking issue

The issue is that it has nothing whatsoever to do with the Dark Brotherhood. That horse should have been a quest reward in the DB quest line, not a cash shop mount.

Nobody's saying the horse doesn't belong in Elder Scrolls, we're saying it doesn't belong outside of the context of the Dark Brotherhood.

I'm still confused as to why people keep tying this mount in with Dark Brotherhood? It isn't Shadowmere... did I miss something? Or do people keep saying this because it "looks" like it should be tied in with Dark brotherhood? I'm pretty confused as to why I keep hearing "It should come out with Dark Brotherhood".

Gidorick

Verdwhisper wrote: »

The horse not looking cool to me.

glad to hear I'm not the only one. It looks hokey to me.

Gidorick

Xabien wrote: »

Garbrac wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

So what about all the players in the game running around. Each one meeting and saving the prophet only to possibly kill him, each one defeating Molag Bal, each one being the hero that Tamriel deserves....

They're not, I'm the only vestige. See, from a game perspective, this is why the main quest is solo, because you as the player are the only one. Everyone else are just residents and troops

Gidorick wrote: »

Garbrac wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

So what about all the players in the game running around. Each one meeting and saving the prophet only to possibly kill him, each one defeating Molag Bal, each one being the hero that Tamriel deserves....

From my perspective they are just other adventures, they are not the Vestige. I do not see them on my main story quests. also, from my perspective, there are a bunch of fire horses running around.

So there is a difference.

Like this guy said.

yay for similar thought processes!

Zershar_Vemod

Time to milk a franchise to its fullest!

Elridge

Gidorick wrote: »

Xabien wrote: »

Garbrac wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

So what about all the players in the game running around. Each one meeting and saving the prophet only to possibly kill him, each one defeating Molag Bal, each one being the hero that Tamriel deserves....

They're not, I'm the only vestige. See, from a game perspective, this is why the main quest is solo, because you as the player are the only one. Everyone else are just residents and troops

Gidorick wrote: »

Garbrac wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those were one of a kind horses... not one of ten thousand.

Xabien wrote: »

ONE is not lore breaking, it's unique and can be given a cool backstory. TWENTY or more on screen at once however... yeah pretty damn lore breaking.

So what about all the players in the game running around. Each one meeting and saving the prophet only to possibly kill him, each one defeating Molag Bal, each one being the hero that Tamriel deserves....

From my perspective they are just other adventures, they are not the Vestige. I do not see them on my main story quests. also, from my perspective, there are a bunch of fire horses running around.

So there is a difference.

Like this guy said.

yay for similar thought processes!

I mean.. they even make other players followers look like generic soldiers to you, while you have the named story NPC following you... that way while playing the story you still feel like "The" Vestige

GreySix

Little off-topic, but really looking forward to the day in the MMO-world that you can toggle off the hundreds of other "only-heroes" of the game world, interacting with them only if you wish to do so.

Would really help with immersitivity (how's that for the made-up word of the day?).

As is, you get to interact with an NPC who tells you you're the first person he's seen in a hundred years ... right after he told the same thing to the five other "one-and-only-heroes" standing around you.

Yeah, really digging what that NPC said just now.