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UPDATE: Zenimax official statment of gap closers being an exploit in here
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Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭What ever they changed a couple of small patches ago broke the gap closers. They no longer work on hilly terrain in the open fields yet they allow players to gap close up onto walls and outposts. Instead of wasting time crying over the hudrends of players that have used this, how about we all start moaning about the actual broken gap closer and ask zeni to make it a priority rather than waiting 3-5 months before something is fixed and then broken again a couple patches later.1 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What ever they changed a couple of small patches ago broke the gap closers. They no longer work on hilly terrain in the open fields yet they allow players to gap close up onto walls and outposts. Instead of wasting time crying over the hudrends of players that have used this, how about we all start moaning about the actual broken gap closer and ask zeni to make it a priority rather than waiting 3-5 months before something is fixed and then broken again a couple patches later.
This is that.Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.0 -
Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭L2P.
Really, the guy used a ability that is meant to bring you closer to the target to climb the wall. There is no cheating or exploiting on it. Its no like he hackwalled the game.
I think its a very awesome feature and should remain on the game.“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
Gryphons guild - @Milvan,3 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭L2P.
Really, the guy used a ability that is meant to bring you closer to the target to climb the wall. There is no cheating or exploiting on it. Its no like he hackwalled the game.
I think its a very awesome feature and should remain on the game.L2P.
Really, the guy used a ability that is meant to bring you closer to the target to climb the wall. There is no cheating or exploiting on it. Its no like he hackwalled the game.
I think its a very awesome feature and should remain on the game.
Not true, literally completely and utterly false. In fact, it is so opposite the truth that it may have come full circle and negated itself out of existence.
Stated so many times, actually one of the only clear stances they have ever said other than scrolls without gates is keeps without walls.
So take that justification of what you feel elsewhere, we are dealing in fact here
My learning how to play has nothing to do with this, however bad a player I may be, its irrelevant to the discussion. Why discussing people's individual skill level needs to happen every single time with the try-hards I don't understand.Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.0 -
diskiukas✭✭✭Where is thy proof that we did anything?
(Video? pls)
You were banned once, reinstated later. This just confirms that you are indeed reinstated wrongly. I play DC btw.But if you have not read all that I have posted, I have since repented and prayed to Lord Braidas about the error of my ways
Fing tool.4 -
OGLezard✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yep Failgrush started calling it "grappling hooks"
i don't see a difference between this and using CE at all, just because it's a broken mechanic doesn't mean it's ok to abuse it.
sadly "failgrush" and everyone else wont be banned. I have seen alot of streamers do it and when you confront them all they have to say is "might as well enjoy it. No ones getting banned"
People are not scared to exploit even when it is announced as an exploit....why? ZoS lacks a back back bone to force their ToS.....
like i said earlier, Streamers bring new people, new people spend money on shiney then realize how broke the game is, new players leave and zos comes out ahead with their money. Rinse repeat.
If something ruins that equation, i.e. banning ANYONE abusing exploits (in this scenario streamers) then that means a potential loss of money from new players who quit before playing any length of time. So it wont ever happen lolEdited by OGLezard on July 5, 2016 5:49PM0 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Where is thy proof that we did anything?
(Video? pls)
You were banned once, reinstated later. This just confirms that you are indeed reinstated wrongly. I play DC btw.But if you have not read all that I have posted, I have since repented and prayed to Lord Braidas about the error of my ways
Fing tool.
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Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Joy_Division wrote: »But I mean, its like, I look at the ground and there are like 30-40 AD dead, and I think like, this is pretty sad
Then I look at my AP per hour and it shows 160K and then I feel better about myself
Its wrong ofc, and its our issue, but its also ZOS' for breaking something so important to the game's structure
What's sad is not the 30 dead AD.
It's not even that you and the emperor are abusing unintended mechanics to ruin the PvP of other players, most of them no doubt far less experienced than the two of you.
It's your unrepentant and selfish attitude, justifying trash play simply because of your AP gain and ZoS's inability to close a game-play loophole they have been 100% consistent saying is unintentional.
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Azurethe✭✭✭@diskiukas
I have no idea why I was banned the first time btw. My message said It had something to do with ultimate abuse, but I have never once used the cheat engine, and never intend to. I suspect it was because I got reported by tons of DC because I was telling them in zone to stop going back and dying over and over and over again to someone using the cheat engine. But thanks for your input0 -
OGLezard✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yep Failgrush started calling it "grappling hooks" i don't see a difference between this and using CE at all, just because it's a broken mechanic doesn't mean it's ok to abuse it.
You dont see a difference? You might see a difference when youre hit by 35 meteors in a row per person in 15 seconds.rfennell_ESO wrote: »Yep Failgrush started calling it "grappling hooks" i don't see a difference between this and using CE at all, just because it's a broken mechanic doesn't mean it's ok to abuse it.
Failgrush always been shady.
The whole collection of chest puffing DC "toughguys" make being shady a playstyle choice.
Fact is that most of the DC faction is embarrassed by these guys.
Grappling hooks are currently a confirmed feature in Cyro.
Also, trying to brand FENGRUSH as anything but the proud leader of the covenant is delusional.
ZoS has already stated bypassing the mechanics to get into keeps IS an exploit....i really hope one day you people get banned lol i highly doubt it will happen. Cheat engine users got unbanned so *shrugs*
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@diskiukas
I have no idea why I was banned the first time btw. My message said It had something to do with ultimate abuse, but I have never once used the cheat engine, and never intend to. I suspect it was because I got reported by tons of DC because I was telling them in zone to stop going back and dying over and over and over again to someone using the cheat engine. But thanks for your input
Lol everyone knows why you were banned.
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Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yep Failgrush started calling it "grappling hooks" i don't see a difference between this and using CE at all, just because it's a broken mechanic doesn't mean it's ok to abuse it.
sadly "failgrush" and everyone else wont be banned. I have seen alot of streamers do it and when you confront them all they have to say is "might as well enjoy it. No ones getting banned"
People are not scared to exploit even when it is announced as an exploit....why? ZoS lacks a back back bone to force their ToS.....
like i said earlier, Streamers bring new people, new people spend money on shiney then realize how broke the game is, new players leave and zos comes out ahead with their money. Rinse repeat.
If something ruins that equation, i.e. banning ANYONE abusing exploits (in this scenario streamers) then that means a potential loss of money from new players who quit before playing any length of time. So it wont ever happen lol
And while Zenimax lacks the backbone to do anything about the exploiters and cheaters on their game, Blizzard has opened a law suit asking for monetary compensation against a group that created a tool to hack their games.3 -
Stratforge✭✭✭✭I think being able to get into keeps without sieging is messed up. All blame to ZoS though. When you break a mechanic so badly that it's impossible to tell whether the way its functioning is intended or not without lurking the forums and waiting for ZoS_JonGrundle or whoever to say it's an exploit, I don't think you should punish players for using it. I think they should fix it and move on.PC NA
Xbox One NA (retired)1 -
Azurethe✭✭✭@rfennell_ESO
Does everyone? Because I don't
Maybe you could enlighten me because you CLEALY know what you are talking about1 -
antihero727✭✭✭✭✭@Azurethe I'm not even trying to antagonize you, but why is this ok behavior for you?
We don't even have a scroll and its ok for you and the emperor to get into our keep without taking the walls down and farm ap on scrubs all night?
I mean come on man where is your sense of any right and wrong here?
When I was emp I swiss cheesed every AD and EP keep/resource. Be happy he's not.
putting holes in keeps in one thing.
Using broken skills to get into them without the correct mechanics isn't.
I get it, i'm be a rule *** and its a video game, but I mean I guess I thought we had better sense of fair play than this?
Even your own faction takes advantage of the issue going on right now, every faction does. This is why most of us took a break.
I agree with you and is one of the main reasons you won't see DD in Hadrus for at least a week. Let them farm the pug zergs because that is their true worth as players. Exploits and farming sub sergeants, I am truly impressed.Edited by antihero727 on July 5, 2016 6:06PMVeldrn-AD Magica Sorc
Bizarro Veldrn-AD Stam Sorc
Antiherro-AD Stam DK
Antihero-AD Magplar
Aww Crit-AD Magblade
AD Since PC beta
On A lag free vacation
for the near and far future0 -
ZOS_JessicaFolsomCommunity ManagerHey everyone,
We are working on making some tweaks to certain gap closers that players are using to bypass core keep capture mechanics. It is not intended that gap closers be used to enter keeps without downing doors and/or walls, or enter areas you otherwise would not be able to without exploiting (below Dolmens, under water, etc.) While we are aware that players are using certain gap closers to do exactly these things, we do considered this behavior an exploit.
If you see another player exploiting in this manner, you can send us videos or other evidence by submitting a customer support ticket, by sending them to anyone on the Community or Moderation team here on the forums, or emailing us at community@elderscrollsonline.com.
Thank you!Edited by ZOS_JessicaFolsom on July 5, 2016 6:09PM24 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@rfennell_ESO
Does everyone? Because I don't
Maybe you could enlighten me because you CLEALY know what you are talking about
Sure.
Obviously in the wave one ban of Cheat Engine bans when you were banned it was all an honest mistake on ZOS' part and you are 100% innocent of all charges and have never done anything wrong.
Right?1 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hey everyone,
We are working on making some tweaks to certain gap closers that players are using to bypass core keep capture mechanics. It is not intended that gap closers be used to enter keeps without downing doors and/or walls, or enter areas you otherwise would not be able to without exploiting (below Dolomens, under water, etc.) While we are aware that players are using certain gap closers to do exactly these things, we do considered this behavior an exploit.
If you see another player exploiting in this manner, you can send us videos or other evidence by submitting a customer support ticket, by sending them to anyone on the Community or Moderation team here on the forums, or emailing us at community@elderscrollsonline.com.
Thank you!
/diesTl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.5 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Azurethe I'm not even trying to antagonize you, but why is this ok behavior for you?
We don't even have a scroll and its ok for you and the emperor to get into our keep without taking the walls down and farm ap on scrubs all night?
I mean come on man where is your sense of any right and wrong here?
When I was emp I swiss cheesed every AD and EP keep/resource. Be happy he's not.
@DeanTheCat Brings back old memories.
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Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hey everyone,
We are working on making some tweaks to certain gap closers that players are using to bypass core keep capture mechanics. It is not intended that gap closers be used to enter keeps without downing doors and/or walls, or enter areas you otherwise would not be able to without exploiting (below Dolomens, under water, etc.) While we are aware that players are using certain gap closers to do exactly these things, we do considered this behavior an exploit.
If you see another player exploiting in this manner, you can send us videos or other evidence by submitting a customer support ticket, by sending them to anyone on the Community or Moderation team here on the forums, or emailing us at community@elderscrollsonline.com.
Thank you!
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom , we need more than this, this time around. You have a player in your forums that has openly confessed to using exploits, someone proud of it even. We need to know you are taking actions against @Azurethe , he can't be protected by your anti shaming shield or whatever... He relinquish the right to it when he came to the Forums to laugh at the community and laugh at ZOS. Please... Please be transparent on what is being done in this one case. We need you to tell us what is being done else we will just have to assume nothing is being done.Edited by Grao on July 5, 2016 6:06PM10 -
Azurethe✭✭✭@rfennell_ESO
Ask anyone who actually knows me ingame or is on my friends list. There was no period that I was absent from the game and then reappeared after like 2 weeks like all the other people who were unbanned. You literally are talking about of your ass and no nothing about me1 -
WebBull✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We are working on making some tweaks to certain gap closers that players are using to bypass core keep capture mechanics. It is not intended that gap closers be used to enter keeps without downing doors and/or walls, or enter areas you otherwise would not be able to without exploiting (below Dolomens, under water, etc.) While we are aware that players are using certain gap closers to do exactly these things, we do considered this behavior an exploit.
Gap closers are already broken and only work half the time. In your "tweaks" please don't break them further like you did to chains.
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Stratforge✭✭✭✭@ZOS_JessicaFolsom holy cow. You guys are really going to ban players for this 100% ZoS-created problem? The only way this response could be any ZoS-y is if you guys introduced a goofy armor set with a 5-piece bonus that prevents enemies from gap-closing into your keep. The Keep Defender's Raiment perhaps?PC NA
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@rfennell_ESO
Ask anyone who actually knows me ingame or is on my friends list. There was no period that I was absent from the game and then reappeared after like 2 weeks like all the other people who were unbanned. You literally are talking about of your ass and no nothing about me
So there is this thing called zone chat in game.
Trust me everyone knows who are you are what you are about.
Even your own faction knows... lol.1 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stratforge wrote: »@ZOS_JessicaFolsom holy cow. You guys are really going to ban players for this 100% ZoS-created problem? The only way this response could be any ZoS-y is if you guys introduced a goofy armor set with a 5-piece bonus that prevents enemies from gap-closing into your keep. The Keep Defender's Raiment perhaps?
WTB Impen Keep Defender's RaimentTl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.0 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hey everyone,
We are working on making some tweaks to certain gap closers that players are using to bypass core keep capture mechanics. It is not intended that gap closers be used to enter keeps without downing doors and/or walls, or enter areas you otherwise would not be able to without exploiting (below Dolmens, under water, etc.) While we are aware that players are using certain gap closers to do exactly these things, we do considered this behavior an exploit.
If you see another player exploiting in this manner, you can send us videos or other evidence by submitting a customer support ticket, by sending them to anyone on the Community or Moderation team here on the forums, or emailing us at community@elderscrollsonline.com.
Thank you!
ban ban ban ban ban.
Sweep 'em clean.
These guys are so dumb that you can find them doing it on their twitch streams and youtube videos, just keep reporting them and we will be rid of them.
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Azurethe✭✭✭@rfennell_ESO
You lost pretty much all credibility when you said zone chat
Like I know you think you know what you are talking about, but sorry, you're wrong1 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭@rfennell_ESO
Ask anyone who actually knows me ingame or is on my friends list. There was no period that I was absent from the game and then reappeared after like 2 weeks like all the other people who were unbanned. You literally are talking about of your ass and no nothing about me
What we know about you is exactly what you've let us know, that you were previously banned, forgiven and then came to the forums this morning to have a laugh about exploiting bugs in the game to get inside keeps in Cyrodiil. Honestly, that is all we need to know from you.
What we need now, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , is to hear from you. What is Zenimax doing about this self professed cheater? If you don't answer very clearly, we will have to assume nothing is being done.1 -
Azurethe✭✭✭Have a laugh? I was Role Playing
If you had read what I said earlier, I said now that I got a response from ZOS that it is 100% officially labeled an exploit, I will cease all actions with it1
