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NB just killed me in about 4 seconds
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drackonir✭✭✭
I would like to see these stats for other people
"Even Gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
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crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
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lol, let me tell you something, take a good look at screenshot you link....I'm
Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?
My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin
Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?
He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.
You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy
Or God, this guy thinks:
-crystal fragments proc on themselves
-heavy attacks are instacast
-weapon crit is not important to range or melee
-mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰
I really need to give you some room.
1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.
Son you should do some research.
This says it all folks.
1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.
1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
5. go back to school, son.
6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.
1.) http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/
2.) I challenge you to charge a heavy attack on a staff and hold it until a target comes (like on a bow).
3.) http://www.esohead.com/skills/28448-critical-charge
http://www.esohead.com/skills/41506-shield-charge
http://www.esohead.com/skills/40622-flying-blade
4.) The morphs all have the same 20% condition and can be used After you fall below 20% (for the hundredth time)
5.) Points 1-4 seems to suggest you need to learn how to read.
6.) Says the guy who made an entire thread to QQ about dying in pvp
Crystal fragments proc itself. Learn to read the skills perhaps? God this thread is entertaining, you're getting so mad its actually hilarious
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info443-CrystalFragmentsProc.html
there's even an addon that tells you when your next crystal fragments is instant to use after its been proc'ed.
*facepalm*
the player is in town, pretty far from wayshrine, with shard proc'ed, right?
now let me tell you something else, the shard need a target to cast...
think over this....
in town.... no target.... shard proc'ed....not by another shard.....
mmmkay?
consider this
the screenshot is there to show you where the icon is. maybe the icon glows when it's proc'ed.
keep trying, son kay?
you know whats worse than knowing nothing? what you just did.2 -
Phantorang✭✭✭✭
Heads up to any coming in:
This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.
Can it proc on the next? For example I channel Crystal fragments for 1.3 secs, then I cast Crystal fragment again, can it be instacast then?Fimbulwinter Recruiting true Vikings | Campaigns score | EU PC0 -
Vis✭✭✭✭✭
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YES! If every DK ran with this build I swear I would never complain again.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Valn✭✭✭✭✭Phantorang wrote: »
Heads up to any coming in:
This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.
Can it proc on the next? For example I channel Crystal fragments for 1.3 secs, then I cast Crystal fragment again, can it be instacast then?
yes, if it procs itself.1 -
drackonir✭✭✭
YES! If every DK ran with this build I swear I would never complain again.
Well, I am still curious as my stats on tanking build are not that much better "Even Gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
―Sotha Sil1 -
Valn✭✭✭✭✭MongooseOne wrote: »All goofing aside. Do you really think crystal frags can proc crystal frags?
i know that crystal fragments can proc itself yes.2 -
crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Phantorang wrote: »
Heads up to any coming in:
This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.
Can it proc on the next? For example I channel Crystal fragments for 1.3 secs, then I cast Crystal fragment again, can it be instacast then?
yes, if it procs itself.
is your sorc level 15 yet?2 -
Phantorang✭✭✭✭Phantorang wrote: »
Heads up to any coming in:
This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.
Can it proc on the next? For example I channel Crystal fragments for 1.3 secs, then I cast Crystal fragment again, can it be instacast then?
yes, if it procs itself.
So if someone casts Crystal Fragments, it can proc an instacast of the next Crystal Fragments, which in turn also can proc an instacast and again and again?
Its only the first cast that is a certain 1.3 sec channel, and from that point on it can be instacast unlimited just as long as no other spell is casted?
What do you mean, "procs itself"? It cant be instacast before you have channeled it for a full 1.3 sec at least once, right?Edited by Phantorang on June 10, 2014 12:52PMFimbulwinter Recruiting true Vikings | Campaigns score | EU PC0 -
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✭Phantorang wrote: »Phantorang wrote: »
Heads up to any coming in:
This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.
Can it proc on the next? For example I channel Crystal fragments for 1.3 secs, then I cast Crystal fragment again, can it be instacast then?
yes, if it procs itself.
So if someone casts Crystal Fragments, it can proc an instacast of the next Crystal Fragments, which in turn also can proc an instacast and again and again?
Its only the first cast that is a certain 1.3 sec channel, and from that point on it can be instacast unlimited just as long as no other spell is casted?
What do you mean, "procs itself"? It cant be instacast before you have casted it at least once, right?
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/
It cannot. This guy just knows that little he thinks it can.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭MongooseOne wrote: »All goofing aside. Do you really think crystal frags can proc crystal frags?
no it doesn't. well, Mr. OP might think it does, obvioulsy
one mage light will proc it, and 9 shard in a roll doesn't proc next. I actually tested on my v6 sorc.Edited by crislevin on June 10, 2014 12:53PM2 -
Phantorang✭✭✭✭
YES! If every DK ran with this build I swear I would never complain again.
Would be nice if you could back up your gimp call by a screenshot of your own stats
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✭About 2 of the seconds i was layying flat on the ground because he got me out of stealth, by the time I got up and was able to do anything I was dead.
we're both v12, I have full purple gear, im a sword and board dk tank. How did I die so quickly?
You are "pro" who able to keep 28m distance at sorc without BE, right?
Why you have not shown some of your PRO to this NB?
Also, you said good melee will able to lower distance with not problem. And where it was in your fight with vr1 Sorc?
Lol-thread.Edited by SilverWF on June 10, 2014 12:56PM- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
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p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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I agree with you mate.
DK are tough nut to crack. Is the only class my Templar always needs time to grind in 1 vs 1. At the end I kill them, but always takes time.
Also is down to the player.
Some drop everything they have, and try to leg it when they fail to "insta" kill me.
(yeah right).
Others that stood there trying to call for help, while I hack them.
And finally those who play smart, trying to outmanouvre each other, conserving magicka and stamina hacking each other in a battle that can last a lot of time. And believe me those battles are the ones I enjoy most, no matter if I lose or win.
@Valn
a) In Cyrodiil if you plan to use a horse, needs to have at least 30 Stamina. Anything less and you saw the results. Just walk.
b) Situational awereness is paramount. You need to look around you 360 degrees all the time. And when you see a player, ANY player, at far far distance. Dismount, hide and wait few minutes.
c) Use magelight.
d) You are melee char yes? If you use shield, always have up the absorb magic.
e) always have the best potions "money can buy"
f) get your HP to 3000. Use STA/MA food. While purple glyphs on purple armour for health. And I assume all your attribute points are on HP also.
g) always open any confrotation with defensive ability if you do not attack first.
h) get purge asap.
i) always be prepared for a fight at cyrodiil. even when yuo see none around for miles.3 -
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✭About 2 of the seconds i was layying flat on the ground because he got me out of stealth, by the time I got up and was able to do anything I was dead.
we're both v12, I have full purple gear, im a sword and board dk tank. How did I die so quickly?
You are "pro" who able to keep 28m distance at sorc without BE, right?
Why you have not shown you PRO to this NB?
Lol-thread.
yeah, funny some people in BE nerf thread claim somehow everybody should be so conscious about the distance and sorc should stay precisely 28-22 m away from targets.
LOOOL, 22-28m, I say, and never 21 or 29m!1 -
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✭you can proc crystal fragments by casting magelightEdited by tordr86b16_ESO on June 10, 2014 1:07PM1 -
It took him 4 seconds to kill you? Must have been a bad NB. Shouldve had you down in 2 1
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Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭Phantorang wrote: »Would be nice if you could back up your gimp call by a screenshot of your own stats
Half decent stats for pvping with a stamina/armor penetration build:
Getting out of invisibility (omg teh power of shadowz!!!):
You cant really go in battle with non softcapped stamina, non softcapped stamina regen, 142 weapon damage and call it a "stamina build".
Edited by Gisgo on June 10, 2014 1:12PM4 -
drackonir✭✭✭BTW, are you using imperial horse LvL1?
I ride a horse in cyrodil all the time, as I hate sneaking long distances and so far I was knocked down only once, needles to say that NB who done was chopped to pieces:p
Usually when I am attacked I just charge from the horse back, talons, chop, bash, talons etc.
And call me a noob but I do all PvP in tank spec too. Sure have lower DPS but with good defence skills equipped I feel quite safe and versatile."Even Gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
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✭Phantorang wrote: »
YES! If every DK ran with this build I swear I would never complain again.
Would be nice if you could back up your gimp call by a screenshot of your own stats
No food or drink buffs. (Edit: whoops, may have green stamina food buff from this screenshot but don't remember)
SnB balance pvp dps build. I also have glass cannon that gets crit and spell power even higher.
Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 1:17PMv14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Devlinne✭✭✭I've posted before in some other thread.
NB SEEMS very op, if the following requirements are met.
1.) Your opponent must be alone
2.) Your opponent must not have magelight
3.) Your opponent is mounted/manning a siege weapon/looking at his stats/chatting
4.) Your skills must work as and when u press them.
Lets see how often you can get a VICTIM with the above 3 requirements and 4 doesn't bug the hell out in pvp.
Like i said before. when a nb can run into 10 ppl and kill 5, or when he can ESCAPE when *** goes bad sucessfully to a point where NOONE can catch him.....Then we'll say it's op.
Devlinne: VR12 NB
Demonos: VR12 Sorc
Devin Flames: VR12 DK
Hellzanger: VR12 Templar
Thats right. ALL CLASSES.4 -
KaizerXul✭✭✭You can call me a whiner all you want but getting killed in 3 seconds by one person isnt fun at all
This is what is feels like to get murdered by a V12 and why it will be so much better to have a non-VR campaign. I go through this constantly.
"When I left you, I was but the learner. Now *I* am the master."0 -
Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭This is why we are getting a non VR campaign.
And this is also why as soon as we have a non VR campaign, we will have lvl 10s complaining about being killed by lvl 49s.2 -
Rallick71✭✭Vis is completely right.
Crystal Fragments instant can proc of ANY OTHER SPELL BUT ITSELF!!! Do NOT believe the Tooltip. I've stood there and casted it and never had a proc. Cast anything else (Streak, Magelight, Endless Fury) and boom...proc.
Make sure you have 'your' facts right because it's been proven over and over again that you can't proc Crystal Fragments with Crystal Fragments.3 -
crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've posted before in some other thread.
NB SEEMS very op, if the following requirements are met.
1.) Your opponent must be alone
2.) Your opponent must not have magelight
3.) Your opponent is mounted/manning a siege weapon/looking at his stats/chatting
4.) Your skills must work as and when u press them.
Lets see how often you can get a VICTIM with the above 3 requirements and 4 doesn't bug the hell out in pvp.
Like i said before. when a nb can run into 10 ppl and kill 5, or when he can ESCAPE when *** goes bad sucessfully to a point where NOONE can catch him.....Then we'll say it's op.
by your definition, "run into 10 and kill 5", no class is OP, only maybe very few individuals, of any class.0 -
Reykice✭✭✭✭✭Phantorang wrote: »
Heads up to any coming in:
This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.
Can it proc on the next? For example I channel Crystal fragments for 1.3 secs, then I cast Crystal fragment again, can it be instacast then?
Never. It doesn`t proc from itself... only from other magicka based abilities...1 -
GeeYouWhy✭✭✭
I'd just come out of the gate (near where the temple is) which was closed and we had about 5 keeps close to the main base so i didnt expect that area to be contested.
You can call me a whiner all you want but getting killed in 3 seconds by one person isnt fun at all
It may not be fun but it happens to be the one thing a NB excels at. The NB played it smart and used his tools to gank you. Yes it happened. I'm a NB and have been ganked by DKs in large battles with nary a skill fired off myself. It happens. Anyone who attacks from surprise has an advantage and NB's are especially equipped to take advantage of surprise.
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