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Player Housing 2 years? It better be damn good ! ! !
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ExiledKhallisi✭✭✭✭✭WIldstar = World of Spongebob great game for hentai fans and 40 yr old virgins with cute fuzzy characters and happy go sunshine environments.>>>>>>>>(DC)Guild Master of Biestas 250+ Active Members<<<<<<<<||||||Vr14 Sorc: Darkened Soul vr14 Templar: Tiffaney||||||“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭ExiledKhallisi wrote: »WIldstar = World of Spongebob great game for hentai fans and 40 yr old virgins with cute fuzzy characters and happy go sunshine environments.
Yeah, I would have a hard time adopting suspension of disbelief while playing something where we see characters like this:
f2p.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WildStar-Draken-Mechari-and-Stalker-screenshots3.jpgCrotchety Old Man Guild
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Bangstin✭✭✭ExiledKhallisi wrote: »WIldstar = World of Spongebob great game for hentai fans and 40 yr old virgins with cute fuzzy characters and happy go sunshine environments.
Someone decrypt for me what this has to do with the housing topic?0 -
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✭✭They need to implement housing much sooner, to grab the social players.
Social? If they implement it like Wildstar it won't be social. Instanced housing with crafting stations and direct teleports to raids? How does that foster social behavior AT ALL?
This will be DAoC all over again where people hide out in their houses and others constantly complain that the cities are empty.
If you have friends you'll find that friends get together often in their houses and tool around. Housing is a very social thing. In RIFT people make dimensions and open them up to strangers so people get to experience the cool things others have made. Guilds hold meetings in their guild houses, people have friends over in their personal houses.
If you think people are hiding in their houses, it's just they haven't invited YOU...maybe they're just hiding from YOU.1 -
seaef✭✭✭✭✭I played theThey need to implement housing much sooner, to grab the social players.
Social? If they implement it like Wildstar it won't be social. Instanced housing with crafting stations and direct teleports to raids? How does that foster social behavior AT ALL?
This will be DAoC all over again where people hide out in their houses and others constantly complain that the cities are empty.
Its not just about being social (or anti-social) housing was a key TES function. I always found it nice just to pop back to my house store some gear, listen to the bard before setting off on another epic adventure.
If implemented like this it would be pretty much just the same only instead of going off solo, you would meet up with friends. (or go into PvP battle)
I'm fairly certain too that the role-play community would love housing. I keep using the word but player housing in TES has always been integral to the game.
EDIT - Also its not the aesthetic quality of the Wildstar housing, its the customisation options. Like having your own workstations (something that TES already did, yet ESO doesn't have) ! ! !
Stop comparing ESO to TES. This game is an MMO, not a SPRPG."The Illuminati are very achievement focused. It's like Xbox - only everything is hardcore."
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seaef✭✭✭✭✭They need to implement housing much sooner, to grab the social players.
Social? If they implement it like Wildstar it won't be social. Instanced housing with crafting stations and direct teleports to raids? How does that foster social behavior AT ALL?
This will be DAoC all over again where people hide out in their houses and others constantly complain that the cities are empty.
If you have friends you'll find that friends get together often in their houses and tool around. Housing is a very social thing. In RIFT people make dimensions and open them up to strangers so people get to experience the cool things others have made. Guilds hold meetings in their guild houses, people have friends over in their personal houses.
If you think people are hiding in their houses, it's just they haven't invited YOU...maybe they're just hiding from YOU.
Maybe you haven't played many MMOs. /facepalm"The Illuminati are very achievement focused. It's like Xbox - only everything is hardcore."
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
It should give us 500 additional inventory slots. I wouldn't care if I was living in a shack if it did that."Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)2 -
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I doubt he has the skills to do so.
"The Illuminati are very achievement focused. It's like Xbox - only everything is hardcore."
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Dovel✭✭✭I doubt anyone is going to wait 2 years for Housing. In 2 years most of us will move on the better games.0 -
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✭✭They need to implement housing much sooner, to grab the social players.
Social? If they implement it like Wildstar it won't be social. Instanced housing with crafting stations and direct teleports to raids? How does that foster social behavior AT ALL?
This will be DAoC all over again where people hide out in their houses and others constantly complain that the cities are empty.
If you have friends you'll find that friends get together often in their houses and tool around. Housing is a very social thing. In RIFT people make dimensions and open them up to strangers so people get to experience the cool things others have made. Guilds hold meetings in their guild houses, people have friends over in their personal houses.
If you think people are hiding in their houses, it's just they haven't invited YOU...maybe they're just hiding from YOU.
Maybe you haven't played many MMOs. /facepalm
Maybe you have nothing to say in your defence. I've played literally hundreds of MMOs and games.0 -
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✭Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
Well it is likely on the back burner like most things, until they get f2p sorted out.3 -
born2beagator✭✭✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
WTF is that... that has to be the worst looking game in history of games... Looks like I would be playing Sponge Bob's world... a color palette neon puke and neon poo would make my head explode after 1 min on play...
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
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A couple of weeks ago, I might have scoffed at that.Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Well it is likely on the back burner like most things, until they get f2p sorted out.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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Dovel✭✭✭magickats242cub18_ESO wrote: »
Read before you post. Thank you.
You are the only one raging and mentioning deal breakers. If housing isn't even an issue for you why did you come into this thread? Just to troll as usual. And as usual you are reported.
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Zanbarbone✭✭Housing in this Wildstar game is kind of lame ... The best Game I have ever built a house in is EQ2, Where you can use ANYTHING for housing and have the most custom of houses in any MMO. This is the last house I built in EQ2. It took me 2 weeks to build this house. You need to read the post to get an idea of how complex this house is. This game has a ton of building blocks with just as many textures and colors to them. All items can be moved up/down, back/forward and rotate 360deg. The Land you can purchase from a vast array of styles and sizes. There also premade houses that you can just decorate. There is a publishing system with a "Like" leaderboard.
If ZoS can allow people to build like this I will be very happy person and I would not mind waiting 18 - 24 months for it to come out.Edited by Zanbarbone on June 9, 2014 8:37PMPromoting open mindedness, One arrow at a time.2 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Zanbarbone wrote: »Housing in this Wildstar game is kind of lame ... The best Game I have ever built a house in is EQ2, Where you can use ANYTHING for housing and have the most custom of houses in any MMO. This is the last house I built in EQ2. It took me 2 weeks to build this house. You need to read the post to get an idea of how complex this house is. This game has a ton of building blocks with just as many textures and colors to them. All items can be moved up/down, back/forward and rotate 360deg. The Land you can purchase from a vast array of styles and sizes. There also premade houses that you can just decorate. There is a publishing system with a "Like" leaderboard.
If ZoS can allow people to build like this I will be very happy person and I would not mind waiting 18 - 24 months for it to come out.
Problem is , how many are like you?
Because if i had to guess , i would say most wont be waiting 2 years on a promise that it will be that good."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭I'm hard pressed to think of a feature I could care less about.End the tedious inventory management game.0
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Depechenova✭✭Vendersleigh wrote: »Rev Rielle wrote: »Meh housing. The only housing I cared was Everquest 2 because you could build your own table chair etc.
Damn my wife made tons of money in woodworking sellings high house stuff. And all the pets you gathered (catch them all) you could just put them in your house like a sort of grand ménagerie, and you could win stuff like wall decoration in their cards game.
And all was resizable on the fly. Yes. Even mini pets.
Ah and you could visit others home if set on free visit.
Yes. EQ 2 is the benchmark for player housing, no other MMO comes close.
SWG housing was amazing. And so profitable for those like myself that specialised in crafting houses, furniture, gardens, guildhalls, town halls, theatres, cantinas, landing pads, etc. Plus the money I received in tips for decorating other people's houses as every item could be placed anywhere in the house on all three axes. Thus we ended with such glorious pieces as eg. pianos, imax cinemas, shops with items out to browse around, restaurants with food on the tables, indoor gardens, haunted houses.
In the end housing is like PvP; it is something that one gets or does not. Also like PvP, it gives the player a measure of control and means of showing off.
And we all like to have some control in our lives. Between school and the work that most of us do we not have so much control thus the importance of holidays and hobbies, where we get to make the decisions. The more decisions allowed in a game to the players, the more the players become invested in the game and the longer they stay playing.
I totally agree. While being rather old on the mmo terms am not sure how many ppl have ever heard of this of gem post patch 14. before they killed it.
SWG was for me simply the best in terms of housing. The feeling of going home at the end of the mmo day, taking your character back home , emptying his bags in his own storage, crafting at home, with factories outside your house,
Decorating it with the items u bought or won via questing, like paintings.
Eso deffo dropped the ball on this one in not bringing it in from the beginning. I imagined it being tied to the avatar in someway . Like doing all of the quests for a zone maybe pushed some in game achivment system to eventually being able to craft a house. Like skyrim not a thane but atleast theres a plot for u somewhere to build for being such a heroe.1 -
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MMOs also often have housing ... most commonly in later patches often years after release.
Fixed it for ya.
Wildstar is often mentioned now as it is newly released. If it caters to the players who like that game then I wish them the best of luck. I personally couldn't play more than 10 minutes of it at a time ... and I was a long term beta tester. I stopped watching Saturday cartoons decades ago and I feel no need to get into a game identical to such shows.
The absolute final death blow however was watching large scale pvp battles in Wildstar. Google some vids. I went to a casino this weekend (I do not gamble however) and I saw fewer blinking lights there than in Wildstar pvp. Wildstart pvp is more about many players collectively creating a Disney style light show than actually competing in combat.Edited by Tamanous on June 9, 2014 11:30PM1 -
TBH nothing has beaten eq2 housing. not even wildstar to me. Its too wowish and silly1
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✭Stonesthrow wrote: »Has ANY of you who complains about no housing in ESO READ that Zenimax answered this question quite a lot before the game was released. Player housing was NOT planned to be in the game at all. They didn't say it would never be, but was NOT part of the plan.
They listened to the feedback, and have started a project around it. Even communicated to us that the idea of housing is not a NO.
Where did the timeline for 2 years come from?
Can anyone link me a confirmed comment from a ZENIMAX rep who says player housing will be in ESO, but in 2 years?
I don't care what your brothers, sister, friend or a cousin, who plays supermario, saw on a TV commercial, that a guildleader from EVE said, ESO will get player housing in 2 years.
Zenimax managers comments or official statements only. Everything else means nothing.
Creative director Paul Sage told IGN May 22nd, 2014...
Another feature often asked about is Player Housing; fans of previous entries in the series widely agree that owning property in Tamriel is a fairly integral part of the franchise, while MMO players tend to be keen to have somewhere to hang their hats, regardless of which fictional world it's in. Sadly, Sage says that while Player Housing would be nice, it's not likely to come until ESO has an anniversary or two.
"I will tell you that when we get to player housing, and I think it’s one of those things that when you have a game that’s been running a long time it’s one of those things you want to get to, it has to be something that’s done differently and done well," he said. "That’s about all I can tell you. We have no firm plans for anything on housing at this time."
Thank you, I have spent hours looking for that quote by Mr Sage, I was begining to think I'd imagined it lolHigh Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
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✭I played theThey need to implement housing much sooner, to grab the social players.
Social? If they implement it like Wildstar it won't be social. Instanced housing with crafting stations and direct teleports to raids? How does that foster social behavior AT ALL?
This will be DAoC all over again where people hide out in their houses and others constantly complain that the cities are empty.
Its not just about being social (or anti-social) housing was a key TES function. I always found it nice just to pop back to my house store some gear, listen to the bard before setting off on another epic adventure.
If implemented like this it would be pretty much just the same only instead of going off solo, you would meet up with friends. (or go into PvP battle)
I'm fairly certain too that the role-play community would love housing. I keep using the word but player housing in TES has always been integral to the game.
EDIT - Also its not the aesthetic quality of the Wildstar housing, its the customisation options. Like having your own workstations (something that TES already did, yet ESO doesn't have) ! ! !
Stop comparing ESO to TES. This game is an MMO, not a SPRPG.
So sorry for comparing ESO to TES and here I was thinking this was an Elder Scrolls game you could play online (like Zenimax hyped it as). Housing was integral to TES and it should be integral to ESO !High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
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Noctisse✭✭✭Hmm...not to sound like an ignorant complaining scumbag, but besides fixing bugs, further nerfing, and adding some content like dyes, what on Nirn are those devs working on that's keeping them from releasing housing for another 2 years?0 -
Laerania_ESO✭✭✭Awesome housing system.
Too bad that it looks like Earthworm Jim, running animations included.
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hk11✭✭✭✭ExiledKhallisi wrote: »WIldstar = World of Spongebob great game for hentai fans and 40 yr old virgins with cute fuzzy characters and happy go sunshine environments.
These comments are always from children and people who are bitter about not being able to raid and get everything from being casual.
Edited by hk11 on June 10, 2014 8:52AM0 -
Sindala✭✭✭✭✭They need to implement housing much sooner, to grab the social players.
Social? If they implement it like Wildstar it won't be social. Instanced housing with crafting stations and direct teleports to raids? How does that foster social behavior AT ALL?
This will be DAoC all over again where people hide out in their houses and others constantly complain that the cities are empty.
If you have friends you'll find that friends get together often in their houses and tool around. Housing is a very social thing. In RIFT people make dimensions and open them up to strangers so people get to experience the cool things others have made. Guilds hold meetings in their guild houses, people have friends over in their personal houses.
If you think people are hiding in their houses, it's just they haven't invited YOU...maybe they're just hiding from YOU.
Maybe you haven't played many MMOs. /facepalm
It don't make much difference if it promotes social behaviour or not.
Have you been in any town or city recently?
Go stand at the vault with the other 50 players there.....not one of them is speaking to anyone else.
The *** chat system we have been given has basically killed the art of conversation, replaced now only with Spam, WTB, WTS and moaning about bots.
Yes I would love to go hide from others in my own house since i'm an Assassin by trade and shouldn't be having to be seen in public.Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.0
