Hey ZOS, Nerfs Alone = Rage Quits
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Did it perhaps go through any dev's head that before gimping sorcs in what is the largest nerf for ANY class yet, they should have released some buffs to encourage different forms of play?
Rift used to nerf without buffing, ask them how that played out with their player base (and they had less problems to deal with than you). You could have at least released the new version of Dark Deal OR fixed the bugs to Mages Fury OR fixed the bugs with BE breaking all of the time OR given us our better pet system Or fixed the manna regeneration nerf from BE OR stopped the block spam that is the true source of most of your player's QQs...
But NOOOO heaven forbid you do not listen to noob tears and not take drastic/uneducated actions to destroy classes without compensation. NO CDs was your promise, it's clear now that you lack the creativity (or work effort) to make that true.
Nerfs without buffs AND without fixes is killing the little your game has left!
Edited by Vis on June 9, 2014 3:06PM Rift used to nerf without buffing, ask them how that played out with their player base (and they had less problems to deal with than you). You could have at least released the new version of Dark Deal OR fixed the bugs to Mages Fury OR fixed the bugs with BE breaking all of the time OR given us our better pet system Or fixed the manna regeneration nerf from BE OR stopped the block spam that is the true source of most of your player's QQs...
But NOOOO heaven forbid you do not listen to noob tears and not take drastic/uneducated actions to destroy classes without compensation. NO CDs was your promise, it's clear now that you lack the creativity (or work effort) to make that true.
Nerfs without buffs AND without fixes is killing the little your game has left!
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✭Bolt escape now matches name, don't use it unless you need to run away from overwhelming force0 -
hk11✭✭✭✭No need to post anything. Everyone is a nerfmonger that enjoys seeing every class but theirs get the hammer. So even if you have a valid argument, people are going to call you down by posting about NB or Templars as if it is somehow your problem that NB or Templars are not fun to play.
NB is going to become so over the top in PvP due to PvE tweaks that the cycle will start over again.
No thanks.Edited by hk11 on June 9, 2014 3:08PM2 -
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✭It's called priorities, buddy. You're still better than a NB.
So the solution to a broken class to break all others. Don't blame sorcs for ZOS's inability to fix your class. That line of thinking is backwards and hurts the game.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Daethz✭✭✭If Bolt Escape alone was rigged enough to cause a outrage by sorc players, anger by all non-sorc players and rage-quits because it was nerfed.
Good Riddance rigged a$$ spell.Waiting, and watching, for the return of Melee Weapons.
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Confirmed ESO is doomed. Please place all the things in this pile here in front of me.Nerfs without buffs AND without fixes is killing the little your game has left!
Also, people who quit for valid reasons I sympathize with. But I'm convinced that those who ragequit we're probably better without.
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FlatLine84✭✭I just learned something today "sure escape" is actually called "bolt escape" I love learning new things3 -
GrimCyclone✭✭✭✭✭I agree with the OP.
That nerf to elusive mist speed for vampire got me hard. That was my nice little toy that was fun. If it was too OP it should've been OBVIOUS when they made the damn thing. If developer's can't see things like this from the get go, it's their own fault. Stop giving good toys to us and taking them away.
It's called Indian-giving and people all over hate it.1 -
ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Buff a class = Rage quit
Bots= Rage quit
Killing off bots= Rage quit
Bugs= Rage quit
Maintenance to fix bugs= Rage quit
Lack of content=Rage quit
Maintenance to add content =Rage quit
Being like WoW=Rage quit
Not being like WoW=Rage quit
Being soloable=Rage quit
Having group content=Rage quit
Not being like Skyrim=Rage quit
Being like Skyrim=Rage quit
Moderating forums=Rage quit
Not Moderating forums= Rage quit
Not talking to the players= Rage quit
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FunkyBudda✭✭✭No need to post anything. Everyone is a nerfmonger that enjoys seeing every class but theirs get the hammer. So even if you have a valid argument, people are going to call you down by posting about NB or Templars as if it is somehow your problem that NB or Templars are not fun to play.
NB is going to become so over the top in PvP due to PvE tweaks that the cycle will start over again.
No thanks.
That's when the fun begins, you make sure you return the favor, I know I am
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andersan✭✭✭So the solution to a broken class to break all others. Don't blame sorcs for ZOS's inability to fix your class. That line of thinking is backwards and hurts the game.
Yes. DKs and Sorcs hurt the game when the people that play them refuse to bring in NBs and Templars into their groups. They're just being brought down to where they should have been in the first place. What goes around fellas.
Any nerf to DK or Sorc makes me a happy guy.Edited by andersan on June 9, 2014 3:56PM8 -
Wintersage✭✭✭So, can I pick 3 like the skill system should've been? I go with:ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Being like WoW=Rage quit
Not being like WoW=Rage quit
Being like Skyrim=Rage quit
Yeah. These 3. If all of these 3 groups of people ragequit for good...I could sleep at night.1 -
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Munku✭✭✭Those who rage quit from a game, especially over an abused mechanic, really need to sit down and have a good long introspective look at themselves to see if there might be something emotionally wrong.9 -
Viblo✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Buff a class = Rage quit
Bots= Rage quit
Killing off bots= Rage quit
Bugs= Rage quit
Maintenance to fix bugs= Rage quit
Lack of content=Rage quit
Maintenance to add content =Rage quit
Being like WoW=Rage quit
Not being like WoW=Rage quit
Being soloable=Rage quit
Having group content=Rage quit
Not being like Skyrim=Rage quit
Being like Skyrim=Rage quit
Moderating forums=Rage quit
Not Moderating forums= Rage quit
Not talking to the players= Rage quit
Talking to the players= Rage quit
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Emohsnevar✭✭lol. I play a sorcerer. Yes, I use bolt escape, I don't have the morph streak, which in my opinion was seriously broken. But I used it to escape mostly when I had a zerg coming at me. I don't mind dying to a good 1 on 1 fight.
So today's nerf came, tested it out when I logged in. Don't understand why all the crying (waaaahhhh, we got nerfed) It's still not that bad, one can still get good distance from ZERG attack!! ( I still get shut down a lot from good players that know what they are doing) But very happy it will cut down on that broken streak mechanic ( WHICH IS BROKEN ZENIMAX)
My opinion, this was an ok ability fix. Now, lets talk dragonknights and their super OP abilities.....roflmao2 -
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✭Emohsnevar wrote: »lol. I play a sorcerer.
Uh huh, like we can all believe that. You obviously missed the point too:
The cost increase is closer to 70% and it STILL has the magicka regen nerf.
Nerfs are one thing, but when the nerf itself is broken (nearly doubling the penalty) we have a whole other dragon.
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Emohsnevar✭✭Emohsnevar wrote: »lol. I play a sorcerer.
Uh huh, like we can all believe that. You obviously missed the point too:
The cost increase is closer to 70% and it STILL has the magicka regen nerf.
Nerfs are one thing, but when the nerf itself is broken (nearly doubling the penalty) we have a whole other dragon.
Poor Vis. Come and find me in Wabbajack and I'll show you my sorc.
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✭Another viable course of action is for developers to allow grouping where it is currently prohibited.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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✭iEuthanasia wrote: »Today I learned that 70% is nearly double 50%. >.>
The penalty is when you include the magicka regeneration nerf ... but factoring that in would assume too much of you, eh?v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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✭Emohsnevar wrote: »Emohsnevar wrote: »lol. I play a sorcerer.
Uh huh, like we can all believe that. You obviously missed the point too:
The cost increase is closer to 70% and it STILL has the magicka regen nerf.
Nerfs are one thing, but when the nerf itself is broken (nearly doubling the penalty) we have a whole other dragon.
Poor Vis. Come and find me in Wabbajack and I'll show you my sorc.
Stuck on wanting to prove he's a sorc while missing the actual point: 70% increased cost + magicka regen nerf + debuff animation for convenient timing by our opponents.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Zerosix✭It's called priorities, buddy. You're still better than a NB.
Nightblade has 2 builds than can knock off 75 percent of someones health coming from stealth. If they do not use them they can still open up with ambush to veiled and make CC break not work and work ppl down that way. How is mage better than NB again?
Currently CC break is busted and you cannot activate it when certain CC is stacked through abilities. AKA nightblades dream ganking right now...
Edited by Zerosix on June 10, 2014 2:13AM0 -
Every class has good moves in PVP. And everyone is going to complain about them. Sorcs have crystal fragments that have hit me with anywhere from 400-900 damage. Other skills of theirs have hit me with 1200-1700. NBs have good openers that can stun and also skills that do 800-1700 (see the similarities?) DKs can ram u to he ground and burn with talons over and over and u can be practically dead before you get up. They're tanky but don't hit as hard. Which is the way it should be. But standard of might (I think it is) that has hit me hard a few times. I really don't see too much of problem with the way things are. Even before nerfs. Some players are better than you. Deal with it. Some spam moves that suck. You could do the same. You aren't meant to win every battle. Sometimes you actually have to think/try/have luck.2
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kaosodin✭✭✭✭iEuthanasia wrote: »Today I learned that 70% is nearly double 50%. >.>
Damn math...do I have to show my work?
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kaosodin✭✭✭✭This thread is a mess, just like the game. It's goin down in flames...
Less that 60 days live and your claiming flames. Jeez man..... if its not perfect ojt the gate your just ready to drill it into the ground.
Its a great game with so much potential. But hey... whst do I know.....im just having fun, I must be doing something wrong....
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