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Anomaly nerf not so bad.
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S1L3NTKiLLaH✭✭✭wrlifeboil wrote: »S1L3NTKiLLaH wrote: »wrlifeboil wrote: »S1L3NTKiLLaH wrote: »wrlifeboil wrote: »We have slightly reduced the rate at which you can get items from chests for completing Magical Anomalies in Craglorn.
Magical Anomaly crystals no longer grant experience or Veteran Points. The boss creatures that spawn at the end of Magical Anomaly encounters are unchanged.
At least on paper.
It seems like they putting in a cooldown on looting chests or a respawn timer. It just depends on how long the cooldown or respawn is. If the cd/respawn is as long as a run to an anomaly, that cuts the loot dropped over time in half. If it is as long as two runs, it cuts it by two thirds. You'll have to find out the duration of the cd. That should help slow down the price crash in purple mats.
The bonux xp from the crystal probably won't have that much effect on the mindless groups who didn't respect the kill order (hint: you kill the elemental add before you destroy the red crystal for the bonus xp). Some of them actually thought that getting the 2x xp was a random occurence. No joke.
"seems like"
"or"
"probably"
where are you getting all this "reliable" info from? I would love to see it.
All we have to go on are the official patch notes.
Do you have a better source?
No but making assumptions based on incomplete information is asinine.
Really, like your reply. I made an educated guess based on what is in the patch notes. When the server goes online, that's when we can see how educated or not.
an educated guess would involve trial and error something you are unable to do with the current server status. Believe it or not your guess was not based on factual data or replication, so its not an hypothesis; it is your theory if you want to get technical about it.Edited by S1L3NTKiLLaH on June 9, 2014 1:44PM0 -
Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭Some of those people who would have been grinding will also just decide to unsub.
I really don't understand the logic of this. Could someone explain, please?
Thats your logic, and we must explain? You a funny guy.
I'm sorry. I'm not good at writing, as you can see.
I gather that they want people to do the Craglorn dungeons.
But I still don't completely understand the logic of Zenimax's decision on the nerfing. What do they want to accomplish? It's an honest question. Maybe you can help me out since I'm a little slow.
Do they think people are going to have more fun? Will they go back into the VR+ and ++ zones?
I was one of the V3-V12 at one day levelers. Player logic is why not if we can?
I quote my self , explaining how it works and you might understand the background of the fix a bit better:
PL with anomalies and you can make 2 Vet levels in 3-4 hours. (4-6 Millions)
Highest ratio only works with fast moving including portal to get all 3 spawns.
Sure, more relaxing are 1 or 2 spots and best time is in the morning when there are max 2 groups around in total and as soon there is zerg of course there is a chance they outdamage your group but not every pull.
A great option to skip alliance zones for toons, every game has spots to power level and personally i think it doesn't hurt anyone if players decide to PL instead questing.
Its player choice and freedom.
Anyway i agree with Zenimax, that this was way to much exp for a day ...Edited by Bromburak on June 9, 2014 1:55PM0 -
wrlifeboil✭✭✭✭✭S1L3NTKiLLaH wrote: »an educated guess would involve trial and error something you are unable to do with the current server status. Believe it or not your guess was not based on factual data or replication, so its not an hypothesis; it is your theory if you want to get technical about it.
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I seen a lot of vr12 people there just for the chest at the end, which would drop just for a hit or two. Changing the loot to green like the rest of the areas would make a lot of people lose interest. Not saying its fair to the people who did not get there epic items though. I certainly do not want any more Air, Fire or Martial Knowledge items....ever.
I always used a weapon power/crit/stam potion on the Air Atro and got XP 9 out of 10 times. Was there more for the xp than the loot, so burning a stack of potions was worth not having to quest in the VR zones.Hells Bell___________________Highelf Sorc
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I took my VR3 there for the first time yesterday and ran around for a couple of hours harvesting nodes and chests. The only players I saw were mounted hordes running from one Anomaly to another. LOL.There have even been screen shots posted by people that have been able to get into that area and explore.
As for mobs, they're pretty thin on the ground in large parts and even where there some .. in small packs to deter the soloers .. they were easily avoided. The only places mobs were too dense to easily get past were the 'defense' ruins (whatever that content's called) and a couple of so large Ogre camps or whatever.
It's a great zone to explore, many amazing and interesting sights to see, just utterly depressing it's forced-group content .. except for the Anomalies which now have their XP nerfed to the ground so 'soloers' can't get any XP off those now either it seems.
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✭✭✭✭✭wrlifeboil wrote: »Really, like your reply. I made an educated guess based on what is in the patch notes. When the server goes online, that's when we can see how educated or not.
Well technically you won't be comparing who was educated more or less, because the amount of information at the time of the guess wouldn't have changed. You would only be comparing the validity and accuracy of your guess to the factual reality.
Semantics are fun!Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.0 -
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✭Most people will still farm this instead of going through the hell of the VR7+ zones for barely any xp.
I did VR 10 - 12 in the regular VR zones (Bangkorai for me). It was incredibly fast, as each dolmen/ wb/ delve gave huge amounts of exp at that point. So, I assume you never actually tried it.Snit AD Sorc
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Just like lots of 'vet' players.@Iseldiera being a veteran of something doesn't necessarily mean they are good at it.
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Raash✭✭✭✭well only thing they really have done is to force people to go raid farming, that crystal was every solo-players chance to get to the xp. Then I suggest that all that do damage to that boss get xp for it and not just the top 12/raid groups. Otherwise its just one more spit on the smaller groups and those who dont get a spot in the farming trains.Edited by Raash on June 9, 2014 3:09PM0
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Daethz✭✭✭Wtb new invisible buff for craglorn, "0% Experience gain until v10 or higher."Waiting, and watching, for the return of Melee Weapons.
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Paladin_echo1✭✭✭Im not even going to agree with this all the way. But my question would be to ask the people gloating about the "do four man dungeons" to the newer players where they got their exp to V12? If you cant provide a good stable guide how to level, then don't fill them full of stuff you didn't do yourself.0
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Hodorius✭✭✭Today I tried a dungeon with 4 of these "grind-people"...
WORST grp ever!
The healer did rarly heal my ( I was the tank )...
He/she ( templar) did not use any of his class heals.
There were timeframes where I did not get a single heal for like 10 seconds while tanking a boss.
The dd´s did not know how to focus the healers...
They said they will do it but did not... I have not seen a single interrupt.
I was the only one who used CC.
None of them activated the Synergy of my Bone Wall... but they were wasting dps/hps for activating that crap one from Inner Beast like all the time.
First time in ESO I was afraid of having aggro.
But the best thing was... after the second boss they went out and wanted to reset the dungeon because "it is so hard" and the first two ones are "easy" and "this is how you get the most experience".
They said it´s to hard to go to that Skyshard also and refused to do it... so I had to sneak over there all by myself...Edited by Hodorius on June 9, 2014 3:24PM0 -
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✭ZOS needs to make the Veteran leveling experience in the faction zones more rewarding and satisfying if they want players to return to questing there. People gravitate towards the path of least resistance... in this case farming Anomalies even if it is boring and repetitive to do so.
Now that we have Craglorn, there's no reason not to increase the XP gains in the faction questing zones, veteran dungeons and PvP.
I'd prefer if ZOS gave us a completely different way to level 'other' than the current VR zones. I know that's unreasonable and will probably never happen but I'm not going to let them ruin my alt play-thru's and faction immersion
High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !1 -
GreasedLizard✭✭✭3 vet map quests < One anomaly. Get real gear to boot
As usual, one side of the balance is moved yet no expectation that the other side needs adjustment. Reminds me of my workplace0 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭We have slightly reduced the rate at which you can get items from chests for completing Magical Anomalies in Craglorn
In English this means tripled the respawn time of Anomalies to 10 minutes.
And the award for the worst written patch notes in history goes to Zenimax! Tripling something is not "slightly" .. just say changed the respawn timer to 10 minutes if that is what you did.0 -
Phantax✭✭✭✭✭
✭We have slightly reduced the rate at which you can get items from chests for completing Magical Anomalies in Craglorn
In English this means tripled the respawn time of Anomalies to 10 minutes.
And the award for the worst written patch notes in history goes to Zenimax! Tripling something is not "slightly" .. just say changed the respawn timer to 10 minutes if that is what you did.
Yep the pooch got screwed again ! Loot gets nerfed, XP gets reduced by 50% (that's if you manage to get any at all)
Craglorn wasn't exactly busy as it was, now its going to be even harder to find drag my butt there
Edited by Phantax on June 9, 2014 3:36PMHigh Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !0 -
ShADoW0s✭✭✭After patch: Totally dead lol, they did not include the respawn timer to the patch notes.0
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wrlifeboil✭✭✭✭✭I'm happy to report my educated guess was close to the mark.
Based on the 30 minutes or so I played the new patch, you can loot every chest but gear loot is only in one out of every three anomaly chests. Nearly all of the gear drops were green. Only a few purples though this could be rng.
Every chest provides 67 gold so no one walks away empty handed. One pleasant surprise is that the chests now can drop Monumental Glyphs. Enchanters lament but the rest of us can now update our latest set gear.
The xp on the bosses are slightly lower than before. As a VR11, I was getting around 40k per boss yesterday, 29-37 per today. No bonus xp for adds/crystal kills as stated in the patch notes. The timing on the crystal spawns appear to be different. Group leaders will have to adjust their routes.0