Player Housing 2 years? It better be damn good ! ! !
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Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
Edit - Zenimax statement referenced in my post
Edited by Phantax on June 10, 2014 12:46PM (not sure if I can post the link here or not)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fcWell Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
Edit - Zenimax statement referenced in my post
Creative director Paul Sage told IGN May 22nd, 2014...
Another feature often asked about is Player Housing; fans of previous entries in the series widely agree that owning property in Tamriel is a fairly integral part of the franchise, while MMO players tend to be keen to have somewhere to hang their hats, regardless of which fictional world it's in. Sadly, Sage says that while Player Housing would be nice, it's not likely to come until ESO has an anniversary or two.
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fyendiarb16_ESO✭✭✭I missed it, when and where did they say it would likely take two years?
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Since when did Skyrim have epic housing? It was just an instance with some containers and a pretty poor excuse for a weapon display. Pointless upgrade system (by the time you bought a house, you probably bought every single upgrade anyway).I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing.
They didnt even have the ship from Daggerfall, now THAT would be epic. I'd name my Dominion warship the "Carrack Obama".13 -
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✭murklor007neb18_ESO wrote: »
Since when did Skyrim have epic housing? It was just an instance with some containers and a pretty poor excuse for a weapon display. Pointless upgrade system (by the time you bought a house, you probably bought every single upgrade anyway).I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing.
They didnt even have the ship from Daggerfall, now THAT would be epic. I'd name my Dominion warship the "Carrack Obama".
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Lalai✭✭✭✭They might be talking about some of the housing options you could get with mods. Usually when I see people compare ESO to Skyrim they tend to compare Skyrim + whatever mods to ESO. There were some pretty fantastic house mods too.
Anyway, I'm not sure when housing "should" come out. I mean, if they released it now you'd get a bunch of people up in arms about how they didn't balance things first, or add additional paths to level, or fix bugs.. kinda like what happened when Craglorn came out, even though that was suppose to be in at launch so it was already mostly done.. and they stated they had separate teams working on the two. Two years is a little far out there, but if you want a really in depth system like what Wildstar and Rift have, then it's going to take time. Especially if housing wasn't something they planned on adding from the beginning, or don't have any real progress towards currently.
Rift took a little over a year to come out with their housing, if I remember right.. and while it is amazing, it's not quite as in depth as Wildstar's, who developed it as one of the selling points of their game (or at least seem to advertise it that way). Those kind of systems do actually take a good deal of time to program.Edited by Lalai on June 8, 2014 3:21PMFisher extraordinaire!
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This.tylarthb16_ESO wrote: »hmm can build a real house faster than that.
I don't think player housing would be particularly difficult to do.
And they can build on after it is initially added.Waiting, and watching, for the return of Melee Weapons.
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Good question.bandage106rwb17_ESO wrote: »When did they say this?
Also, do they have people working on it now? They probably should. Even if it's true, 2 years had better see some seriously epic housing. I mean, imagine the fallout if it was longer than that? Thus, get some guys on that sooner rather than later. It's possibly the single most desired update to the game they could make.
You know. Excepting perhaps an AH.
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
WTF is that... that has to be the worst looking game in history of games... Looks like I would be playing Sponge Bob's world... a color palette neon puke and neon poo would make my head explode after 1 min on play...37 -
Rammanjeff✭✭ROFL! This game will doubtfully even last two years! They can say all they want to about how great their housing will be because they know they will never really get to design it.It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong. ~ Thomas Sowell4 -
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✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
WTF is that... that has to be the worst looking game in history of games... Looks like I would be playing Sponge Bob's world... a color palette neon puke and neon poo would make my head explode after 1 min on play...
I never said Wildstar was aesthetically pleasing (you should see some of the actual neon levels) Personally I love the pseudo-realistic style of ESO (and skyrim) But if you look at the variation, customisation options the WS housing has, that's what I mean for ESO to strive for !High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
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✭✭tylarthb16_ESO wrote: »hmm can build a real house faster than that.
Depends where you live, in Britian it would probably take eighteen months to get planning permission. Then you have to wait for inspectors at various points, to make sure it's up to regulation, and delays in supplies turning up.
Of course the actual building the house would go much quicker. Just the red tape.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
WTF is that... that has to be the worst looking game in history of games... Looks like I would be playing Sponge Bob's world... a color palette neon puke and neon poo would make my head explode after 1 min on play...
I never said Wildstar was aesthetically pleasing (you should see some of the actual neon levels) Personally I love the pseudo-realistic style of ESO (and skyrim) But if you look at the variation, customisation options the WS housing has, that's what I mean for ESO to strive for !
Then why not compare skyrim's housing mods and add-on? I feel you were trying to get a reaction... which i gave after the video made me throw up!
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✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »Amsel_McKay wrote: »Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
WTF is that... that has to be the worst looking game in history of games... Looks like I would be playing Sponge Bob's world... a color palette neon puke and neon poo would make my head explode after 1 min on play...
I never said Wildstar was aesthetically pleasing (you should see some of the actual neon levels) Personally I love the pseudo-realistic style of ESO (and skyrim) But if you look at the variation, customisation options the WS housing has, that's what I mean for ESO to strive for !
Then why not compare skyrim's housing mods and add-on? I feel you were trying to get a reaction... which i gave after the video made me throw up!Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing.
Apparently I did compare/mention Skyrim's quality housing !
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭Well to be honest I really liked the player housing in EQ2 but in SWG I liked that you could build anywhere in the world but then huge cities covered the world... the ghost towns of LoTRO were weird and creepy2
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I'd like to think I will still be here in 2 yearsLOL....who the heck is going to be here in two years?
God yes, open world/sandbox type housing locationAmsel_McKay wrote: »Well to be honest I really liked the player housing in EQ2 but in SWG I liked that you could build anywhere in the world but then huge cities covered the world... the ghost towns of LoTRO were weird and creepy
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭I think you'll find the gauntlet is being set by Shroud of the Avatar, still in Alpha but OMG it looks so promising. Different styles, wooden...treehouse...longhouse...castle...ect...and even 4 tier basements.
Yes I can agree thou that ESO better have awesome housing or you'll lose a lot of would be long term players. No where to call home in-game means you never put down roots in-game and thus never immerse yourself in it.
On a different note I thought of some good ideas to tag in with housing...
- Make houses accessible to anyone but only owner can access storage stuff but wait!!! there's more.....Add thieving quests where upon taking the quest you have to find the house and then steal an item (quest linked) from the house. (Thieves Guild)
- also make it so housing is PvP if your in the Dark Brotherhood (quest related of course) and then you can have 1 on 1 PvP with the owner (they would be BD also) for body count quests.
Obviously these are just quick ideas but I think they could have legs?Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.5 -
Sindala✭✭✭✭✭No replies to my ideas? well I thought they were good.....Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.0
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Winke✭✭✭can we get a link to where/when they said this? if its true....i will be a sad panda
definitely would love to see player created cities similar to SWG concept when they do come out with some version of player housing:: Winke::Breton Templar::Merchant::
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Goibot✭✭✭Does anyone remember how Vanguard did housing? You actually had to build your house and buy the plot of land to put it on. You could also build your own ships from small skiffs all the way to galleons. Guild halls took a monumental effort by all guild members to make.4
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭Horizons (now called Istaria) had the first and still one of the best crafting parts of any MMO and you had to build your own house, next i'd say was UO with the sheer amount of customisation you could do. Shroud of the Avatar is basically mixing these two together into what is really just everything you could do in UO but in 3D version.
ESO has some very big shoes to try and pinch if it wants long time subscribers (16 years for UO and 12 for Istaria). As has been said many times already, it's full immersion into a game that keeps you logged in.
Fighting alone will not cut the mustard for keeping you interested in a game as it's played far quicker than can be created.
ESO needs to get a team together and implement some true RPG stuff quickly as it's these subscribers that keep games going for so many years not the Pew Pew players who are always onto the 'next big game'.
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Haxer✭✭✭Yeah I am playing both atm (temporarily) to see which one I'm going to really invest in. I know it's only a small part of a game, but the player housing is a huge draw for me personally with wildstar. It is amazing, and really well done.
I really really really hope that they don't wait 2 years to add it, or especially Guild halls, as community is a huge factor for me in an MMO and right now there is no way in-game to have any. Our guild just needs a place where we can all meet and be in the same instance, but cannot do so with the phases/lack of guild halls.
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Arora✭✭✭murklor007neb18_ESO wrote: »
Since when did Skyrim have epic housing? It was just an instance with some containers and a pretty poor excuse for a weapon display. Pointless upgrade system (by the time you bought a house, you probably bought every single upgrade anyway).I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing.
They didnt even have the ship from Daggerfall, now THAT would be epic. I'd name my Dominion warship the "Carrack Obama".
you obviously did not buy the Hearthfire expansion if you think skyrim did not have epic houses.
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Kililin✭✭✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »Well Zenimax has already said its likely to be after the 2nd anniversary before we see player housing (personally I think that's way too late). I've just watched a video of the player housing in Wildstar and OMG ! All I can say is ESO's player housing had better be good if this is the standards other MMO's are setting. (RIFT did it great, Wildstar now better)
(not sure if I can post the link here or not)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLc0esD1fc
Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
WTF is that... that has to be the worst looking game in history of games... Looks like I would be playing Sponge Bob's world... a color palette neon puke and neon poo would make my head explode after 1 min on play...
me 2, but the housing system looks cool. and the feedback i hear from mmo players is way better than for our game...
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Well Zenimax, you got 2 years to sort out player housing and it'd better be AAA rating quality. I'm talking Skyrim Oblivion/morrowind epic levels of housing. The gauntlet has been thrown down, zeni... don't let us down ! ! !
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