~+~ How are Anomalies not nerfed yet? ~+~

NoMoreChillies · June 2014

dont nerf anomalies, give players more places to grind like this
"play how you want"

crislevin · June 2014

Depechenova wrote: »

Its a bit annoying to see vet-1 's there, Like the true ppl who dragged ourselves through the Bug ridden /poor content. Mindlessly questing terrible quests to get to lvl v-10. The lvl v-1's SHOULD be made to do the content I did.
I belive Craglorn should be a reward for getting through one of the worst mmo grinds I have ever faced. Not just steam roll content coz they can avoid it. I want them to pay

the problem of restricting access is there will be very few people there.

Kililin · June 2014

Depechenova wrote: »

Its a bit annoying to see vet-1 's there, Like the true ppl who dragged ourselves through the Bug ridden /poor content. Mindlessly questing terrible quests to get to lvl v-10. The lvl v-1's SHOULD be made to do the content I did.
I belive Craglorn should be a reward for getting through one of the worst mmo grinds I have ever faced. Not just steam roll content coz they can avoid it. I want them to pay

Actually, you are right. They should nerf all viable options except quest grind.

That would enable me to come here next year and laugh about all those not yet VR players, telling us we dont know what we are saying and that questing is fantastic.

Targanwolf · June 2014

As a solo player. An AvA focused .....NB bow focus player these instant maxed players are upsetting.My NB is level 32 and I have to compete with instant VR12's.Where is the fun? Where is the motivation to pay $15/month for that experience ?
How long do we have to wait till we get DAOC like battle grounds geared to people of similar levels so people like me don't have to put up with this @#$% ?

Kililin · June 2014

Targanwolf wrote: »

As a solo player. An AvA focused .....NB bow focus player these instant maxed players are upsetting.My NB is level 32 and I have to compete with instant VR12's.Where is the fun? Where is the motivation to pay $15/month for that experience ?
How long do we have to wait till we get DAOC like battle grounds geared to people of similar levels so people like me don't have to put up with this @#$% ?

If its instant, go there and spend the "instant".
They are obviously putting more time into their character than you.

There will be a campaign for pre-vet only.

Adrastes · June 2014

stop asking nerfs you ***

ExiledKhallisi · June 2014

I hear......this sound.... its strange because a forum is just a web page...but I hear....this strange sobbing sound....

Give it a rest lol.

Exploit while you can we all know its cheap and cheating. Mistakes happen in development of anything and I'm positive their intention was not 100 people zoning out mindlessly running from waypoint to waypoint getting tons of free purples and VP for hrs to reach vr12. Some of you truly make me laugh..."I have two vr12's" and you complain?????? Lol!

This all stems from themillennial mindset..me me me now now now.... slow down and enjoy some things.... guess what vr12 gets you? A cookie and 20 more stat points..marginal difference.

Realize you are a small group of the games total population complaining about an exploit about to be needed to the ground.

If you don't like the actual game....go play the latest version of WOW err Wildstar. This game is fantastic its really a shame you want to miss out on so much just to /dance in town or one shot noobs in cyrodil.

Emperor · June 2014

You people don't realize how much harm the anomalies are causing. I am not simply asking for a nerf because I think it's unfair. It's not unfair because anyone can do it.

I am asking for a nerf because the experience is SO GOOD that it drags everyone from the game itself to go do grinding. No one is doing vet group dungeons anymore or group questing. Seriously, try to use the group finder to find a group. You won't.

I understand that some people just want to grind/PvP and that is fine, but the experience from anomalies is so overwhelming that it drags EVERYONE to it which is not ok. People that want to do the dungeons and questing should be able to get at least a decent amount of xp/hr when compared to grinding something like anomalies.

So either boost the other exp rewards or lower anomalies.

ExiledKhallisi · June 2014

I hear......this sound.... its strange because a forum is just a web page...but I hear....this strange sobbing sound....

Give it a rest lol.

Exploit while you can we all know its cheap and cheating. Mistakes happen in development of anything and I'm positive their intention was not 100 people zoning out mindlessly running from waypoint to waypoint getting tons of free purples (ruining the economy even more) and VP for hrs to reach vr12. Some of you truly make me laugh..."I have two vr12's" and you complain?????? Lol!

This all stems from themillennial mindset..me me me now now now.... slow

down and enjoy the game....enjoy life even...

Kililin · June 2014

How about making the rest of the game interesting enough (besides pvp) and somehow positively reinforce people to do it?

It is telling that everyone does anomalies with such a great game to be played.
The real problem is people do not like VR zones, i am finding groups for activities besides anomalies. I think they are ok from time to time but boring at others.
But they are always better than quest grinding.

Nerfing anomalies does not make the rest of the game more interesting.
Forcing people to do things they dont like leads other to cancellation or toxic behavior in groups, after all the people are doing some forced activity not something they genuinely enjoy.

Shiroro · June 2014

- Rebalance VR content, classes, and skills so that soloing isn't a crapfest
- Make dolmens/world bosses/delves (once they're improved) repeatable DAILY for full exp
- Cut anomaly experience to 1/3 and make purples and blues far more uncommon - keep it grindable as this sort of grind content is enjoyable to many people

Game is fixed. Let's see how bad the nerf is on Monday and how they're compensating for it.

Tavore1138 · June 2014

Emperor wrote: »

You people don't realize how much harm the anomalies are causing. I am not simply asking for a nerf because I think it's unfair. It's not unfair because anyone can do it.

I am asking for a nerf because the experience is SO GOOD that it drags everyone from the game itself to go do grinding. No one is doing vet group dungeons anymore or group questing. Seriously, try to use the group finder to find a group. You won't.

I understand that some people just want to grind/PvP and that is fine, but the experience from anomalies is so overwhelming that it drags EVERYONE to it which is not ok. People that want to do the dungeons and questing should be able to get at least a decent amount of xp/hr when compared to grinding something like anomalies.

So either boost the other exp rewards or lower anomalies.

Actually you make a fair point here, one of the reasons I went to the place myself was because no-one was around in my VR8 level & then I found out they were all there.

On the other hand the folks I grouped with mostly left when they hit their level target to back to the questing/PvP of their choice - oddly they seemed to see the repetitive smashing of a crystal as a 'break' from being killed by trash mobs and getting lousy XP in the quest zones.

I'm done there now and will be questing again this evening or resource gathering, only difference is I'll have new armour which still won't make me much stronger.

ZOS need less nerfing and more feeling of reward for players working through VR... a game should not feel like work, ever... I love questing but the constant difficulty just wears you down, sometimes it is nice to feel powerful in a game.

On the bright side the last way forward news release suggests they are catching on to this.

Phantorang · June 2014

Emperor wrote: »

I'm not usually one to ask for nerfs, but this is kind of ridiculous.

People can grind 2 anomolies at once with a group of ~12 people and get ~1.5-2 MILLION experience per hour. People are going from V1 to V12 in 1-2 days. This is absurd. On top of that epic (purple) items are flooding the market for veteran ranks. I don't think this really needs to be adjusted though because if the anomolies are nerfed there won't be so many people grinding them which will mean less epic items will flood the market.

I understand that people complained about the quest grind and that they wanted a different way to level, but that doesn't mean give us a way to get all 12 veteran rank levels in 1-2 days! There is absolutely no "wow factor" for people that are V12 anymore. V12 used to mean that you saw everything ESO has to offer. V12 used to mean that you had a lot of experience with the game and were most likely a skilled player. V12 used to mean you were a nerd. Now V12 just means you spent 1-2 days grinding anomalies.

I'm not saying nerf anomalies so hard that they are pointless to do or grind for the people that want to level that way, but nerf it enough to bring it down to a normal level compared to all the other ways of leveling (dungeons, quests, and PvP).

Discuss.

EDIT:
To those that think there is no difference between V1 and V12....
There is a HUGE difference. The armor has more defence, the weapons have more damage, the potions are more effective, the list goes on and on. Look up the numbers if you don't believe me.

V12 also used to mean that you skipped alot of the quest content, rushed everything and complained when everything was done.

Pangnirtung · June 2014

Maverick827 wrote: »

Yeah, I want even more disadvantages because I didn't rush to the level cap.

I feel like 5% of the players are plying a different game by getting everything before it gets nerfed. Max level, rare motifs, epic recipes...then the rest of us come along and struggle even more.

THIS! One thousand times over. If VR12 or VR 14 is so important why not play on the PTS server where you can be uber right from the start?

It seems that for a small, vocal minority in the game getting to the top and the end the fastest is the game for them.

I visit the anomalies on occasion but can't stand the boredom of click, click, click, collect treasure and hop on my horse to the nearby anomaly only to repeat it a thousand times.

Questing is boring? Not half as boring as doing the XP grind on anomalies and the like. No skill required. You could probably even macro them they are so easy.

Phantorang · June 2014

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for your feedback on this, everyone. We are making some adjustments to this that you'll see in our next patch on Monday.

New patch on Monday, Is this the Patch on Test right now? Or is it a patch before the one on test?

martinhpb16_ESO · June 2014

I tell you anomalies are the only way to go for me at the moment, at vet 5 I've hit crisis point and lost the will to do any quests in those areas. My guild has already shred loads because of vet quest grind.

martinhpb16_ESO · June 2014

Emperor wrote: »

- No feeling of accomplishment when reaching V12 because everyone is V12
- Getting an epic item as a drop will be just like getting a white item as a drop (no good feeling, just de-construct it and move on)
- There will be an even larger amount of people asking for easier content because even though they are V12 they don't know how to play the game since they just grinded anomalies with a group which doesn't take any skill.

Hey dude how do you know how i feel about accomplishment? One mans accomplishment is another mans snooze-fest.

" Don't know how to play the game" how? by not doing endless quests?

I'm doing a mixture of anomalies, cyro, dolmens / world bosses / dungeons and vet dungeons. But tbh it's still a chore and I am certainly not a power levelling get it now kind of player.

Nox_Aeterna · June 2014

Problem is , i dont want to do the group content to lvl , thus i wont.

I dont mind zerging it much , but when they change it for a closed 4 man group lvling alone 11/12vr , i will probably play this game even less than i already do currently.

Taiminator · June 2014

If people wanna grind the 150 or so anomalies required from VR11 to 12, why does that have to bother anyone? If people wanna skip VR quest content, miss out on loads of skill points and end up with gimp, unflexible characters, that should be their choice. Don't force people through all that questing. Obviously, many aren't into it. I personally can't stand anomaly grinding and am having fun doing the craglorn quests and dungeons but why hate on those that just wanna grind?

davidhorstub17_ESO · June 2014

Have you guys spoken to some of these people grinding the anomolies? Joined a raid last night for anomaly farming to work on my last vr level and most of these players are just terrible because they went straight from level 50 to anomaly grinding. They had no school of hard knocks or learned to play/spec by getting beat up through the vr zones and having to adjust. A bunch of them were talking about having to go back and kill mannimarco since "he is impossible" for them and these people are vr8+! They havent even fought molag bal how is this okay they will be vr12 or even in craglorn to begin with? These are the clowns you get thrown into trial pugs with that have 200 dps and didnt know block even exists.

Kililin · June 2014

davidhorstub17_ESO wrote: »

Have you guys spoken to some of these people grinding the anomolies? Joined a raid last night for anomaly farming to work on my last vr level and some of these players are straight terrible and have no idea how to play or build their character because they went straight from level 50 to anomaly grinding. A handful of them were talking about having to go back and kill mannimarco since "he is impossible" for them and these people are vr8+! They havent even fought molag bal how is this okay they will be vr12 or even in craglorn to begin with? These are the clowns you get thrown into trial pugs with that have 200 dps and didnt know block even exists.

I have talked to others and we had a pretty fun time.

If you do trials in random pugs dont expect the best players.
Why do you care what others do, they are not a pool of party members for you to choose from. If they are having fun playing gimped characters, skilled the wrong way, why does it matter to you?
There are lots of people on this game and forum that play gimped specs intentionally, there are lots mmorpg firsttimers who just dont care but thats none of your business. Also look in this forum, there are lots of doshia, mannimarco, molag bal, etc. threads, so it is obviously hard for some players. I do not get why, but it is, and i dont think it is ok to ridicule them or nerf their preferred playstyle.

Create a guild or make friends with people that like to play your way.

Targanwolf · June 2014

I've tried to think of one good thing about those abusing anomalies and I have one. People will reach max level.....get bored......and leave the game...leaving it to the non abusers.
Of course for ESO's subscriber subscription cash flow......not so good.

Ulalume · June 2014

I feel bad for anyone who's tired of the quest grind and heard about some of the Craglorn grinding spots too late. Given their track record, I expect anomalies will give 0 xp and 0 loot come Monday.

They either need to roll people back (which they won't) or leave grinding spots like anomalies open so everyone can grind to max level if they wish to.

Alphashado · June 2014

This situation simply demonstrates how many people love the game and are disgusted with VR questing. The VR zones are BAD for so many different reasons. Nothing smacks of ignorance more so than someone that has not even made it to VR criticizing Veteran players that are so anxious for something different to do that they are grasping at Craglorn grind groups like people on a sinking ship lunging for a floating life vest.

MANY people are finding the VR zones to be either-

Too difficult
Too boring
Unrewarding
Immersion breaking
Redundant
Did I mention ridiculously difficult where every trash mob will kill you in a second if you make one mistake?

Craglorn grinds are a life boat and people are jumping on them. What's gonna happen if the life boat sinks?

I suggest all the nerf happy ragers consider the bigger picture here.

R1ckyDaMan · June 2014

To be fair they seem to have nerfed themselves, Too many people doing them its 50/50 if you get xp or not, and you need to be in a large party to counter the large numbers to do enough dps, which in itself makes the game crash alot, I was there today and it was frustrating more than anything.

Maybe over time it will calm down and be back to groups get 100% xp all the time which will be a problem.

wrlifeboil · June 2014

Emperor wrote: »

You people don't realize how much harm the anomalies are causing. I am not simply asking for a nerf because I think it's unfair. It's not unfair because anyone can do it.

I am asking for a nerf because the experience is SO GOOD that it drags everyone from the game itself to go do grinding. No one is doing vet group dungeons anymore or group questing. Seriously, try to use the group finder to find a group. You won't.

I understand that some people just want to grind/PvP and that is fine, but the experience from anomalies is so overwhelming that it drags EVERYONE to it which is not ok. People that want to do the dungeons and questing should be able to get at least a decent amount of xp/hr when compared to grinding something like anomalies.

So either boost the other exp rewards or lower anomalies.

OP's thread in a nutshell. The city builds a new rec center in the neighborhood. A kid's friends now go to the rec center to shoot hoops, play ping pong, or whatever. Now the kid doesn't have anyone to play video games with. So he complains to the city to close the playground so his friends will come back to play video games with him.

So that's what this thread is about.

Tavore1138 · June 2014

Question - can a VR1 who has not fought Molag Bal find a way into Craglorn?

They ate kept out of questing VR regions unless they have passed the Bal fight but could the sneak round that limit by going to Craglorn and grinding?

I have seen no sign of this but that would be far worse for the game than any number of people wanting to minimise quest grind...

Alphashado · June 2014

No and that is a good thing. Your "roadblock" is the only thing keeping Bots out of VR content.

Drasn · June 2014

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Question - can a VR1 who has not fought Molag Bal find a way into Craglorn?

They ate kept out of questing VR regions unless they have passed the Bal fight but could the sneak round that limit by going to Craglorn and grinding?

I have seen no sign of this but that would be far worse for the game than any number of people wanting to minimise quest grind...

Yes you can. Getting to Crag is in no way connected to the main quest line. Once you are VR1, you just go to your factions capitol and find the quest giver, then take the carriage to Crag.

Alternatively, if you are VR1 you can find someone in your party/friends/guild that is already in Crag and travel to them.

Woeler · June 2014

Remember when they said ESO could be played in groups OR ALONE? Pepperidge farm remembers.