This game has a bad community

  • Reevster
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    Munku wrote: »
    Mistake #1: you expressed your opinion in zone.

    Never never put your feelings out there in Zone chat lol, Zone is full of trolls and other delightful types that just like to argue, if you had of said the opposite the same "trolls" would have flip flopped the other way....Maybe guild chat is better for that kind of conversion...well maybe...who the hell knows whos in what guild anyways, the same trolls could be in your guild and you not even know it.
  • rawne1980b16_ESO
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    Opioid wrote: »
    big booty toons...

    They have big butts there?

    Well why did no one tell me this sooner.
  • Saltypretzels
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    ^ thread
  • mutharex
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    Azzuria wrote: »
    This isn't bad community, it's just being tired of hearing the same complaints over and over and over and over and over... and over and over and over again.

    The game has only existed for 7 weeks. So, that's not it. Its because they are fanbois.

    I triple dare you to unsub!
  • Aaklor
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    I agree with the OP, with every statement he's made. just because a few tools don't care about the massive amount of issues with the game. That's their business.

    The multitude that have unsubbed due to the staggering amount of issues with the game and clear inexperience of the zenimax team, speaks volumes.
  • mutharex
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    Opioid wrote: »
    big booty toons...

    They have big butts there?

    Well why did no one tell me this sooner.

    If they talking about WS there are a few animated gifs already about that....
  • Mablung
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    mutharex wrote: »
    The problem is the game is targeted to a more educated and adult public than let's say WS or WoW with their LCD target

    And the LCD didn't get the memo....

    Wha? This really made me LOL IRL. 'Targeted to a more educated and adult public...' LOL! :D
    Yes, I do notice a slightly higher proportion of fanbois in this game vs other mmo's I've played. But, all of them have tons of fanbois. Like gold spamming, fanbois are just something you have to accept as a negative part of any MMO you play.

    Strange, I have exactly the same thoughts about people who use the word "fanboy," or any of its ridiculous derivatives.

    That's because you're a fanboi, most likely.

    Be careful calling anyone a fanboi/fanboy. It is an offensive term to fanboi's and they will report you and you will get in trouble for breaking the COD, whether it is here or in game.
  • onlinegamer1
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    mutharex wrote: »
    Azzuria wrote: »
    This isn't bad community, it's just being tired of hearing the same complaints over and over and over and over and over... and over and over and over again.

    The game has only existed for 7 weeks. So, that's not it. Its because they are fanbois.

    I triple dare you to unsub!

    The Official (tm) Battle Cry of the Fanboi!
  • mutharex
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    mutharex wrote: »
    Azzuria wrote: »
    This isn't bad community, it's just being tired of hearing the same complaints over and over and over and over and over... and over and over and over again.

    The game has only existed for 7 weeks. So, that's not it. Its because they are fanbois.

    I triple dare you to unsub!

    The Official (tm) Battle Cry of the Fanboi!

    So you're chickening out? I supposed so...
  • Wicked_Wolf
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    "Zone" chat is the garbage can of any MMO. It's your fault for trying to find a decent meal within that trash can. Find a guild!

    Btw, not everyone who disagrees is a fanboy. It's gotten to the point where you're simply not allowed to enjoy games anymore. If someone doesnt like something, you HAVE to like it or else you are branded "fanboy". Such a dumb concept.

    I personally have serious issues with this game. But, that doesn't mean I want to listen to contsant whining about the same things over and over again. I have to put up with that crap all day at work. Games are my escape from it. Sometimes, you just want people to take their black cloud of misery elsewhere.
    Edited by Wicked_Wolf on June 3, 2014 6:14PM
  • skeletorz_ESO
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    Hey @Ramthor it was in Ebonheart Pact, wasn't it?
    “If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.” -- René Descartes
  • Moiskormoimi
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    I wouldn't say it's bad...just deteriorated. In beta and pts, people were willing to help out other people and didn't chastise people who didn't know in zone chat, at least to the extent it is now. It seems that between the merchant spam and lfg inquirers, there now lies either the few remnant people that legitimately care and want to help, and those that are so miserable with their own game play that they live to grief others, be it trolling, fanaticism, raging, etc. That said, it's not a main feature to the game.
  • Malthorne
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    We know there are issues with this game, & I don't mind discussing them. however....Have you considered that maybe a lot of the community is sick & tired of being trolled concerning these issues? Especially in zone chat. I'm playing to enjoy myself, and don't care to hear it while in game.
  • Azzuria
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    mutharex wrote: »
    Opioid wrote: »
    big booty toons...

    They have big butts there?

    Well why did no one tell me this sooner.

    If they talking about WS there are a few animated gifs already about that....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCWaN_Tc5wo
    Edited by Azzuria on June 3, 2014 6:15PM
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  • AinGeal
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    People don't like the flaws of their precious game pointed out to them. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter if such flaws were pointed out through a whine, or pointed out with a suggestion to fix it. The reaction is the same. A strong one that often accompanies insults.

    If the flaws were pointed out with a whine, they'll impolitely tell you to stop whining. If the flaws were pointed out with suggestions to fix them, they'll impolitely shoot down your suggestion.

    The suggestion one can often be broken down into two categories...

    First, those that have acknowledged that there is a problem but have come to terms with it. They'll say things like "no game is perfect" and will shoot down the suggestion itself.

    Second, those whose heads are so far up their...I mean, so far in the sand, that they will simply shoot down the suggestion on the premise that there isn't a problem to fix.

    Yes, no game is perfect. Perfection is impossible to reach. Never stop trying to reach it though.

    Turning a blind eye to flaws doesn't do anybody any good. So those that do are labeled a derogatory term to discourage such behavior. "Fanboy".

    However, simply whining about it doesn't help either. They too get a derogatory term associated with them. "Whiner".

    Those that are doing some good are those that point out the flaw with a suggestion. At least they are trying. Yet even they become subject to crap from others. Too much of a kneejerk reaction to shoot others down.
  • mutharex
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    Hey @Ramthor it was in Ebonheart Pact, wasn't it?

    Probably, big strong nords.. they really hate milk-drinkers
  • Ramthor
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    "Zone" chat is the garbage can of any MMO. It's your fault for trying to find a decent meal within that trash can. Find a guild!

    Btw, not everyone who disagrees is a fanboy. It's gotten to the point where you're simply not allowed to enjoy games anymore. If someone doesnt like something, you HAVE to like it or else you are branded "fanboy". Such a dumb concept.

    I personally have serious issues with this game. But, that doesn't mean I want to listen to contsant whining about the same things over and over again. I have to put up with that crap all day at work. Games are my escape from it. Sometimes, you just want people to take their black cloud of misery elsewhere.

    Why stating the obvious is considered whining?
  • Cepeza
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    Recently I was called a stupid noob because I asked for help with a world boss in lvl 25 area as I was playing my lvl 18 alt. I just replied " Happy being reported" and reported. That is my way to deal with *** attitude. ;)
  • Leesha
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    Aaklor wrote: »
    I agree with the OP, with every statement he's made. just because a few tools don't care about the massive amount of issues with the game. That's their business.

    The multitude that have unsubbed due to the staggering amount of issues with the game and clear inexperience of the zenimax team, speaks volumes.

    Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone is having massive issues with the game? I've run into one bugged quest and completed that after a maintenance. The most frustrating thing I've had to deal with is having to relog to get a lorebook to show up. Are there problems? Sure. Are there serious issues some are having? You betcha but they won't admit it might even possibly be on their end since... you know... not everyone is having the problem they are.

    The multitude you speak of is realistically the extremely vocal minority who show up on the forums to whine and complain about their problems in every single mmo they play. Just because a lot of us are content and not having issues does not make us tools.
  • Lord_Draevan
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    You say the slightest negative thing: you're a whiner/hater. You say the slightest positive thing: you're a fanboy.

    Welcome to the internet. :|
    Edited by Lord_Draevan on June 3, 2014 6:20PM
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  • Lord_Draevan
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    Leesha wrote: »

    Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone is having massive issues with the game? I've run into one bugged quest and completed that after a maintenance. The most frustrating thing I've had to deal with is having to relog to get a lorebook to show up. Are there problems? Sure. Are there serious issues some are having? You betcha but they won't admit it might even possibly be on their end since... you know... not everyone is having the problem they are.

    The multitude you speak of is realistically the extremely vocal minority who show up on the forums to whine and complain about their problems in every single mmo they play. Just because a lot of us are content and not having issues does not make us tools.

    Same here, only ran into a major bug in the Balreth quest in early access, only minor problems since then.
    Edited by Lord_Draevan on June 3, 2014 6:22PM
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  • Alurria
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    More cheese for the skeevers !!! (Passes plate of cheese) watch out for naked nords. They are everywhere.
  • Gisgo
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    This same thread is on every MMO's forum. ;)
  • CosmicChaos
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    Ramthor wrote: »
    I just logged out from the game where I expressed in zone chat my concerns about the things that still aren't fixed after 2 months after the launch. Basic and obvious things like provisioning materials in veteran areas, enchanting leveling nightmare, still no search function in guild store, non-existent economy, and I got bashed by fan-boys accusing me of whining and inviting me to unsub if I don't like it.
    Really? This is the community this game deserves or this is all what is left after all reasonable people have already left? Why is it if you have a different opinion than theirs you suddenly become undesirable and a "whiner"?


    PS I won't say if I unsubbed or not because I am sure one "helpful" moderator will close this saying it is a goodbye thread. It is not. I am just saying that I am disappointed with the community. Or this is forbidden as well?

    Stay far, far away from Eve Online. You don't have thick enough skin.

  • AinGeal
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    Leesha wrote: »
    Aaklor wrote: »
    I agree with the OP, with every statement he's made. just because a few tools don't care about the massive amount of issues with the game. That's their business.

    The multitude that have unsubbed due to the staggering amount of issues with the game and clear inexperience of the zenimax team, speaks volumes.

    Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone is having massive issues with the game? I've run into one bugged quest and completed that after a maintenance. The most frustrating thing I've had to deal with is having to relog to get a lorebook to show up. Are there problems? Sure. Are there serious issues some are having? You betcha but they won't admit it might even possibly be on their end since... you know... not everyone is having the problem they are.

    The multitude you speak of is realistically the extremely vocal minority who show up on the forums to whine and complain about their problems in every single mmo they play. Just because a lot of us are content and not having issues does not make us tools.

    The thing with computers over consoles is that with a console, as a developer, you know what hardware and software you're developing the game for. For PC, there are all kinds of hardware combinations. Different makes of models for mobo, graphic cards, cpu's, etc. Then there are the different kinds of software. Some are still running old DX versions. Different windows versions. The different hardware means different drivers and firmware.

    Any one of which can have compatibility problems with the game. Is this the users problem to fix? No, it's the developers problem to fix.
    Edited by AinGeal on June 3, 2014 6:30PM
  • BBSooner
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    You say the slightest negative thing: you're a whiner/hater. You say the slightest positive thing: you're a fanboy.

    Welcome to the internet. :|

    This, the basic (moronic) rule of thumb is if you don't like something or are criticizing something you are a whiner and need to stop crying - and if you disagree with a negative opinion or simply just enjoy something you are a fanboy and need to stop white knighting.

    This thread is proof, it didn't take long to break out the idiocy.
    Edited by BBSooner on June 3, 2014 6:31PM
  • Ramthor
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    Hey @Ramthor it was in Ebonheart Pact, wasn't it?

    No, it was Rivenspire Veteran zone (V3).
  • Mortosk
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    That's because you're a fanboi, most likely.

    To be honest, it's because those of us with an IQ higher than plankton find it quite pathetic.

    I'm hardly a supporter of the game, made it pretty clear what I think of certain things, but I couldn't force myself to use that word if my man parts were under threat of imminent nail gun to a table.

    I see what you did there, sir. You are implying he isn't as smart as a plankton without actually saying it!
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  • Regoras
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    I, sadly, decided to speak with my wallet. I will probably resub in a few months when they get their act together, but living in fear of what the next patch will break isn't worth a monthly payment.

    ...sucks that I have no other worth while options to play at the moment.
  • KaedianEQ
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    I've played nearly every western mmo to come down the pipe since EQ in '99. One thing that remains the same, regardless of the game's title, developer or target audience ... a chunk of the playerbase will never be satisfied, and will think THEY know how best to "fix" the game they're playing.

    Conversely, there is an even larger group of players that are happy with the game and never bother spending a second on the forums for said game. I envy them.
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