Harakh wrote: »

Veil of Blade does it use spell crit or weapon crit?

Im pretty sure spell crit and it is magicka based but dont quote me on the crit thing...

@Sangeet‌ Cloth and Staff?

Sangeet wrote: »

I just rerolled DK, i AOE grind now to VR3 in 1 day and 5h, like to other dude i met yesterday who soloed the worldbosses in VR6 Reapersmarch with his new DK toon, who was also a former NB VR10. Well if you cant change the system, you need to adapt.

I soloed all world bosses in the AD V6 zone as well. Only difference is I am a nightblade.

Drop power extraction for AOE damage till magicka runs out, then use the mad weapon damage bonus gained for AOE steel tornado along with leeching strikes. That gives sustainable AOE damage of over 2k dps depending on the number of targets involved. Not harder than that

The nightblade only needs to have its crit chance fixed, anything else will make it overpowered.

Me and my brother play a specific NB build, and it might help to get some people across the huge gap to the next NB fixes.

We wear cloth armor and a healing staff:
1) Killer's Blade
2) Shadowy Disguise
3) Concealed Weapon
4) Funnel Health
5) Rapid Regeneration

The rotation is simple, you sneak up to an enemy, use Disguise if you're in danger of being spotted, then open up with Concealed Weapon (its passive gives you a much needed speed boost in stealth and invisibility), because of high magicka and healing staff +10% damage passive, it'll take your enemy down to about 5% of max health. Then you finish with Killer's Blade for mana + health regain. Then mid combat you cast Shadowy Disguise again, Concealed Weapon, it'll stun the enemy and put it off balance, then you do a heavy attack which knocks him down with bonus damage, and repeat and throw in some Strife's as necessary until all are dead.

My brother has no problem solo'ing at V10 with this build. I understand this is not how everyone wants to play, but it's a build you can use until the fixes are in.

In pvp you'll be able to run long stretches of space at +25% speed recasting Shadowy Disguise, remaining unspottable for a very long time, which will give a much needed edge. You can sneak up on pretty much anyone with that without ever needing medium armor.

None of the morphs or essential passives used have any bugs that I can tell.

The build is certainly not overpowered, but it's a lot of fun and it is effective.

Yes it is a good build but its going to become the mandatory build soon...

davidetombab16_ESO wrote: »

nb resto staff in pve is simple fantastic i know but in pvp is pretty horrible.

Its far from horrible in pvp you can spike a target without using a single weapon skill.
If anything i would feel odd for wielding a staff with a nightblade.

I'd like to leave a comment here, i know that this game isn't meant to be like "every other MMO" and i do like what they've done, but the fact is around 90% of the player base care alot about balance, even if the Developers don't perceive it as one of the top priorities, having one class unable to do the most basic role in an MMORPG is disheartening. I could get into the amount of targeting issues, or unresponsive spells i have as a NB but i won't.. *le sigh*.

Instead, I'd just like to say, why bother creating end game content, when pretty much the *only* class you could say was meant to be an out and out Balls to the floor single target melee DPSer (the assassin!) can't even do that, also, i really hate the fact that like in most MMO's, end game means that you have to be a ranged DPS to do as much damage, and have higher chances of surviving than Melee.

I enjoy the Min/Max of competitive PvE, granted it's alot more subjective in this game, but i've never found myself so out of depth in any of the previous games i have played. I've found that any spell that a Nightblade has, the vast majority are bettered by any of the equivalent spells contributed by other classes.

Basically, to reiterate what others have said, it's pretty shoddy game crafting, i understand that you made a great levelling experience, and i loved that.. but in the lifespan of a successful MMO, the levelling experience would only take up 10% of a character's lifespan, while endgame is what keeps us paying the bills!

Basically, fix it, fix it fast, give melee DPS as a whole and NB's the ability to compete (the point i've found with an assassin style character is that they're usually very hard to play, which i enjoy), and in single target situations the ability to actually put out the best numbers with enough toil.

Still a big fan of the game, Mehsive

paying a subscription for hotfixes that usually break and excuses of "we will get to it at some point" astonishing

Maybe they just don't have the coding knowhow to do fixes like that without needing weeks to work on it. Maybe the producers are too concerned about short term profit to hire coders that can handle a game like this?

One of your problems can be solved by going to Cyrodill after you finish your faction's quests, storyline and achievements. You can level to V12 there without having to go through all those newb quests in the other factions.

I do agree it makes little sense to go through the same exact quests of another faction just at higher difficulty, they should have found a different solution to expanding the gameplay time. They should have made one more huge area where you level from 50 to V10, and not have you go through the other faction's territory.

If we want to see the other territories we can just make an alt.

Let's remain on topic guys.

So ZoS,when are NB' class skills going to scale with stamina? 'Cause frankly i cannot think of any other fix.Also DW and Bow abilities need a better % damage ratio towards stamina.

I mean,i have ~40something days of subscription left.Will i "live" to see that happen?

Oinabilac wrote: »

Sangeet wrote: »

I just rerolled DK, i AOE grind now to VR3 in 1 day and 5h, like to other dude i met yesterday who soloed the worldbosses in VR6 Reapersmarch with his new DK toon, who was also a former NB VR10. Well if you cant change the system, you need to adapt.

I soloed all world bosses in V6 soon as well. Only difference is I am a nightblade.

Drop power extraction for AOE damage till magicka runs out, then use the mad weapon damage bonus gained for AOE steel tornado along with leeching strikes. That gives sustainable AOE damage of over 2k dps depending on the number of targets involved. Not harder than that

The nightblade only needs to have its crit chance fixed, anything else will make it overpowered.

How do you outlive that 400, 400, 400 etc damage from the PVE Mobs ? There must be some life leech involved, power drain alone, doesn't help.

FYI, i specked 49 in health, and have put all in stamina gear.

Do you go for light armor ? Can you post your build ?

I killed single bosses with my Bow, and the shot which pushes them back, it know it works, i have bow, 1h+ shield, healing staff at 50 with all passives. BUT ! Its ridiculously harder to pull off than seen from the DK perspective.
I just level currently the dual wield ability's which are at lvl 35 now.

I found bow just cant compete generally, DW is far better to kill stuff in solo PVE, i currently have all blue /purple gear, 2x Rank 5 Purple Daggers. Blue Rank 5 Bow, i can time shadow cloak to one shot one Mob, then split the other two with fear, kill one off then the last one. BUT - this seem ridiculously weak vs DK with staff.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Siphoning Attacks: This ability’s tooltip will no longer says that it restores health. It never restored health, nor was it intended to. This is a tooltip bug. We have a fix for this, and it will go out with a future patch.

Tooltips are the least of our worries

Sangeet wrote: »

Glissando wrote: »

I wouldn't waste my time leveling DW.It's utter trash right now.

Better than Bow ! At least you can kill something.

They're pretty much the same.At least with bow you have a decent opener with stealth + heavy attack.With dw... you just die.

My suggestions, complaints and whining about Nightblade:

Assassination
Haste - on paper its great skill ... on paper. For me, its waste of slot because light and heavy attacks are just weak.
Blur - its good skill for tank build. Why its in assassination three? i dont know but its not place for that skill.
Master Assassin - weapon damage dont boost any assassination skill. Adding spell power to that passive to addition to weapon power dont fix it. Its working only when "USING" assasination skill, so why even keep weapon power bonus?
Hemorrhage - its should be 10% for each assassination ability sloted

Shadow
Path of Darkness - useless now and useless after you patch it. Its very bad designed skill and should be totally reworked. My plan for that here:
Path of Darkness - Enemies around player take x magic damage every second for 10 sec. Increases movment speed by 30% for player and allies. Radius 5 meters.
Twisting Path - change movment speed bonus to: on use immobilizes emenies for 1 sec, then slow them by 30% when nearby player.
Refreashing Path - reduce damage to enemies but add mederate heal to all allies in range of skill.
Aspect of Terror - just fear them all, right know its only way to kill DK when he blocking and spam standard + talons.
Summon Shade - in my opinion its waste of slot even for tank. My plan for that here:
Summon Shade - summon shade to fight for you for x sec. Shade have x% of player health and weapon damage. Player transfer x% of damage recieved to shade.
Dark Shades - summon up to 5 shades(IV rank skill) to player. Shades dont do damage. When player is hit by weapon skill, light or heavy attack or spell projectile there is x% chance to destroy one of shades and avoid all taht damage.
Shadow Image - same as Summon Shade but 100 % of player health and weapon damage.
Surprise Attack - fix armor reduction debuff, both time and amount fo armor reduced.

Siphoning
Agony - none of my guild mates using it nor i. In my opinion it should be replaced by something that buffs allies and player, just one thing that NB will be helpfull for others. My plan:
Agony - all enemies in 10 meters radius recieve x% more damage and deal x% less damage to player and allies. Reduce max magica by 10%. Toggle to activate.
Prolonged Suffering - more damage debuff both deal and recieved for enemies.
Malefic Wreath - same as Agony + returns x% damage when enemies attack player or allies.
Siphoning Strikes - lower spell/weapon power debuff will be ok and fix leeching strikes hp gain.

I will be very happy when you fix/rework stamina wepon builds. Now light armor just rocks not only for NB but for other classes too. Weapon Damage is reduced when entering Cyrodill while Spell Power is not. There are more armor sets that favor magica builds. There is no stamina x% reduction bonuses for heavy nor medium armor or sets bonuses. Also you use stamina for dodge, cc break, sprint and after that there is no stamina for dps. Right now there is magic war and many NB just change there class name to Nightstaff, just to be a little more competitive to other classes. Regards