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splarv
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I don't know is the error common or only my. When I reactived the game I got 1 month of playtime but money was got 2 times (for 2 month). I didn't get clear answer from support system why this happened. I think to reject one of the payment in the bank and keep other (for 1 month), but I want to know what consequences will be.
  • Oevaag_Bur
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    One is the payment one is a "hold". At least you got the playtime. I didn't and had to buy a game card in the end. Have at least got my money back on my cc now.

    It's something to do with the recurring aspect according to my cc company. They really need to add one off purchases for one month/three month/6 month sub's to help those who's payment methods have issues with this. The tight Scot's git in me really objects to not being able to get the discount for longer sub's :P

    On the plus side. They do appear to have added 30 days to my account recently. Though whether as a reward for all the hassle I had with this I don't know.
  • splarv
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    As payment and "hold" for what? Payment for June and "hold" for July? Very strange 1 month subscription. If I stop subscrition in June, will they return paiment for July?
  • Dominoid
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    It's the way your bank shows stuff. One will go away - some banks take a few days. It's not ZOS.
  • Niliu
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    Good god, another one. Every company charges an authorization charge to your account to make sure you have the money, then charges you the actual money. ZoS's system is just set up so badly that you actually notice it, whereas with every other company on Earth, you never do.
    Gimme back my sweetroll or so help me
  • GossiTheDog
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    Zenimax posted here saying they plan to change the authorisation charge to $1 in the "very near future". Unfortunately that was almost a month ago, but whatevs. Yeah, you will get billed 30/60/180 days + same again as auth fee for 30/60/180 days.
  • BaKaNoOB
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    you will get your money in 45 days , for the blocked amount of one payment , this is bad payment verification system , then if you dont unsub you will have one payment every mont untill you unsub then doube again :(

    ps: if you use visa it is 45 day im not trolling i had that...
    Edited by BaKaNoOB on May 30, 2014 9:18PM
  • Kyosji
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    Cancelling or charging back any amount will most likely have your account and/or key terminated. Get with customer support before you do something like that, unless you want to buy another copy of the game and start over.
  • melodeath
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    i have a different issue.
    after my pre release time i gave the correct credit card info and 13 euro's was taken off of it.
    never got it back, the free month passed and thought it would go automaticly, but nope.. so i put in the details again of my credit card and got charged again for 13 euro's but still didnt get 1 month of play time as i had gotten an email saying the payment has failed... yet 25.98 euro's is gone from my credit card..so i had to purchase a 2 month prepaid card ontop of that... and after all this time that 26 euro's is still on hold.

    i have litterly never had this issue before -.-
  • ZOS_TristanK
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    Hey there, @splarv. When a player sets up a new subscription or changes their payment method for a subscription, our system will perform an authorization check that will appear as a charge of up to one dollar in the player's local currency (one pound in Great Britain, one euro in Europe, etc.) This is done to ensure the payment method is valid.

    Before Wednesday evening, the pre-authorization amount was for the full cost of the subscription. As stated above, we've now lowered the pre-authorization charge to $1.

    Usually this authorization hold lasts a short period of time before being removed. The duration of this hold can vary from bank to bank.
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  • splarv
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    I know what is the authorization check. :) Sometimes, on registring cash card on some website, the website got small random payment, the website asked amount of payment and payment returned after several minutes.

    But okey, I checked the bank carefully. Looked like you don't reject authorization payment, just don't confirm it. So it is waited in bank for a month and perhaps later return without SMS. Question is over.
  • F7sus4
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    I have my case still not resolved yet.

    I was forced to pay $15 for subscription when I have first registered (30 march, PayPal) and never have got that money back. The first 30-days supposed to be free.

    They, of course, charged me 1 month later again (on 30 april) for another $15, 30 may for another $15 and so on. It seems that PayPal payment has overriden the first 30-day free time.

    After receiving 4-5 template copy/paste responses, I gave up trying. Just go, ZOS buy some free beer at my cost. But you could at least have asked for it, and not trick me into that - I'd give you, trust me. :s

    Now do some good and fix Nightblade. ;)
    Edited by F7sus4 on May 30, 2014 5:56PM
  • Niliu
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    BaKaNoOB wrote: »
    you will get your money in 45 days , for the blocked amount of one payment , this is bad payment verification system , then if you dont unsub you will have one payment every mont untill you unsub then doube again :(

    @BaKaNoOB‌ okay, stop trolling. you have no grounds for saying 45 days, that's redick. I got mine after a week both times it happened.
    Gimme back my sweetroll or so help me
  • Niliu
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    Hey there, @splarv. When a player sets up a new subscription or changes their payment method for a subscription, our system will perform an authorization check that will appear as a charge of up to one dollar in the player's local currency (one pound in Great Britain, one euro in Europe, etc.) This is done to ensure the payment method is valid.

    Before Wednesday evening, the pre-authorization amount was for the full cost of the subscription. As stated above, we've now lowered the pre-authorization charge to $1.

    Usually this authorization hold lasts a short period of time before being removed. The duration of this hold can vary from bank to bank.

    @ZOS_TristanK‌ Yea that's a load. Definitely has not been lowered yet.
    Gimme back my sweetroll or so help me
  • ZOS_TristanK
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    Have you seen an authorization charge since Wednesday evening for the full subscription amount, @Niliu? The change should have taken place then. If you're seeing something different, please let us know!
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  • Niliu
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    @ZOS_TristanK‌ well, considering this was posted Friday morning, and you're claiming the charge was lowered Wednesday, we seem to have a discrepancy in the facts here.

    For the sake of ensuring your system works, @splarv‌ when did you renew your sub?
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  • BaKaNoOB
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    Removed !
    Edited by BaKaNoOB on May 30, 2014 9:18PM
  • splarv
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    Niliu wrote: »
    For the sake of ensuring your system works, @splarv‌ when did you renew your sub?
    27.05.2014 :)
  • Auric_ESO
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    So. Tuesday. Before the Wednesday patch. So not a discrepancy in the facts just in the assumption.
    Edited by Auric_ESO on May 30, 2014 11:09PM
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  • Unknown_poster
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    Hey there, @splarv. When a player sets up a new subscription or changes their payment method for a subscription, our system will perform an authorization check that will appear as a charge of up to one dollar in the player's local currency (one pound in Great Britain, one euro in Europe, etc.) This is done to ensure the payment method is valid.

    Before Wednesday evening, the pre-authorization amount was for the full cost of the subscription. As stated above, we've now lowered the pre-authorization charge to $1.

    Usually this authorization hold lasts a short period of time before being removed. The duration of this hold can vary from bank to bank.

    Vary from bank to bank? I'm at 50 days with 77.94 still being held. Can not describe the level of pissed off. And yes, I have filed tickets. Have 18 correspondences with customer service and a 40 minute phone call(they called me) to my credit with still no resolution other than "sorry"
  • ESObtst_Grig
    i subscribed for 1 month on 5/11/2014 , payed you my 12.99 euro and now you are holding 2 more separate times the same amount until16/06/2014 and 03/06/2014
    I was using my internet banking but I checked with my bank , the founds are indeed on hold.
    It's not 1 pound there are 2 separate holds for 12.99 euro converted to my currency.
    Following this i canceled my subscription. I hope i will get my money back once the hold expires
    This is not how you do business.
  • Jim_McMasterub17_ESO
    Dominoid wrote: »
    It's the way your bank shows stuff. One will go away - some banks take a few days. It's not ZOS.

    It IS ZoS, they put a double amount on hold, they have apologized repeatedly in the past month for their policy & have promised to review it's "holding funds" procedure.

    Not your banks fault in the least. It's ZoS's F'd up business practices.
  • Auric_ESO
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    They've since fixed the auth amount supposedly. Last Wednesday apparently
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  • ESObtst_Grig
    I know how banks work , it has nothing to do with them .. it's zos .. they can tell w/e they want, it's a lie , it's not the bank .. they have no justification for holding my money . Zero. They didn't have my acceptance nor was i informed nor is it shown in the subscription. They used my billing information to take founds from me without my approval. I wasn't notified in any way.
  • Rhoric
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    ZOS sets how much for the pre auth, your bank sets how long it is held if the merchant doesn't claim it. Most places do this with pre auths. If you don't like it then you should get rid of your CC.
  • PolskiBunny_ESO
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    Rhoric wrote: »
    ZOS sets how much for the pre auth, your bank sets how long it is held if the merchant doesn't claim it. Most places do this with pre auths. If you don't like it then you should get rid of your CC.

    Yeah, but most pre auths don't take a full second charge on hold for weeks. It's usually a dollar or so and lasts like, a day or whatever.

    I wouldn't stop using my credit card just because ZoS hasn't streamlined their billing yet. ZoS is an exception; most of is have successfully used out cards in other situations and full well can take care of our business. It isn't user error when it's one company causing problems.
  • Sanspoof
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    Most places do not charge 2 or 3 times the amount you spend on an item for pre auths, if they did pre-paid cards would be useless. I'm not sure why people even try to defend this practice.
  • Rhoric
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    No. The bank sets how long the pre auth lasts. Mine is 2 weeks. Others is a couple days. Some take 30 days and others even longer.
  • PolskiBunny_ESO
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    Rhoric wrote: »
    No. The bank sets how long the pre auth lasts. Mine is 2 weeks. Others is a couple days. Some take 30 days and others even longer.

    Then why does it seem like none of us have run into problems like this with other subscriptions when many of us use our regular banks?

    Or people who tried different credit cards when this first became an issue?

    My only real beef was the implication (well, outright saying) that these people clearly can't successfully use a credit card. That isn't fair.

    And it isn't a consistent problem these people experience with other online subs or purchases. Especially getting what looks like a double charge (which is hopefully fixed to a dollar).
  • ESObtst_Grig
    You don't understand , i have the sum for 2 more months on hold .. the amount it's not a few dollars or euro, it's 25 euro that were taken from my bank account and put on hold. This is separate from the month i payed. I payed12.99 euro and then they took 25 more euro to keep them for more then 1 month as what guarantee ?
    You act like all the other mmo's you subscribed did the same. Are the allowed to borrow money form my account whenever they want? They have no reason to hold my 25 euro for 1 month.
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