Official Response Requested - VR Mob Difficulty Increased more than the XP

Silowyi · May 2014

There are multiple threads already and no response from anyone in charge. Would someone in an official capacity let us know if the difficulty increase in VR level mobs is:

1) as intended and here to stay
2) not as intended and going to be fixed soon

Yes, XPs have been increased, but you can see from all the threads that the difficulty has been increased DRAMATICALLY and this is from "trash mobs".

VR11 mobs in Craiglorn are easier than VR7 mobs, by a lot.

Example: I am a light armor wearing Templar in Level VR 7 purple armor with health buffs and I got 1-shotted by a trash mob. Mobs have twice the health and do twice the damage, way beyond the scale of what they were.

This is NOT a b*tch or whine thread. As you can see above my query is only whether this is intended or going to be fixed. No demands, no threat of cancelling my account, an answer would just be nice.

Thank you and have a great weekend!

Valerien · May 2014

Can we get some information on this?

I have no interest in playing if a trash mob can one shot me or it takes me 3 hours to complete a quest cause every single mob is a boss fight.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · May 2014

They will not respond. They have gone as far as deleting multiple threads about this subject without a comment on them. Vr zones are empty now.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO · May 2014

If this what OP says is fact than leveling will be even much slower than before patch. That fact alone will negate a lot of positive effects which this patch can produce. If that is intention than ZOS should start talking to the regular players coz they dont know what they are doing.

Saint_JiubB14_ESO · May 2014

and you didn't tag anyone....

DeryielEU · May 2014

Unplayable for me. Will stop questing till that topic get's fixed.

Jade1986 · May 2014

does ZoS have children updating their game? Where did they get their staff from....? While I am lucky enough not to be in a VR area yet, and this update has worked fine for me (except crashing my WHOLE system the first time I logged out ), all the problems it has created seems a bit ridiculous.

Hilgara · May 2014

The fact that they aren't talking speaks volumes. Someone is getting the hair dryer treatment in Zenimax right now.

GossiTheDog · May 2014

I think it's safe to say the EU megaserver migration isn't going to happen soon, given all the new issues generated. My favourite is they accidentally deleted one of the PVP campaigns.

OtarTheMad · May 2014

I can't even use my VR 7 Sorcerer because of this. I am mainly a crowd control/summoner, light armor Sorcerer and I went up to a mob the other day (usually have no issues with PvE mobs) and one of the bandit witches shot a wall of fire at me and my health went from 100% to like 10%... in ONE shot. I'm not a vamp so... I don't know what the hell happened, and overall it seems I take more damage now than I have before... if this was intended Sorcerer's didn't need to be easier to kill lol. It's sad that I might have to shelf this character until Zenimax either at least explains what changed going forward or says it's a bug and fixes it.

Jade1986 · May 2014

GossiTheDog wrote: »

I think it's safe to say the EU megaserver migration isn't going to happen soon, given all the new issues generated. My favourite is they accidentally deleted one of the PVP campaigns.

At the rate they are going with messing everything up they should just get it out of the way and then continue messing everything up >_<

Gisgo · May 2014

+1 i slept ten hours thinking it was enough for you to fix this.
/disappointed

sonix2003b16_ESO · May 2014

Seems Zenimax did not learn too much since the start of the game. Releasing stuff that has only been tested poorly. Then it takes a couple of weeks to get rid of the most annoying bugs. The PTS is still only accessible for an unknown elite of players. Patches do contain stuff that is not documented. Staff is not allowed/able to give information about intended or unintended changes.

But they are investigating the loss of achievement points! Very important! Yes, it really hampers my game play, if my achievement page is empty. Who cares about VR quest zones?

Valerien · May 2014

I don't get why they can't let us know if this is by design and end game VR 1 to 10 is meant to be unplayable or if its a bug and is going to be fixed in the next couple of hours before the weekend.

born2beagator · May 2014

wtf they deleted all the others? Yo zenimax, sticking you fingers in your ears and covering your eyes is not going to make this go away

GossiTheDog · May 2014

Valerien wrote: »

I don't get why they can't let us know if this is by design and end game VR 1 to 10 is meant to be unplayable or if its a bug and is going to be fixed in the next couple of hours before the weekend.

The devs are in the US. The US office only just opened.

babylon · May 2014

Hello ZOS anyone in?

coryevans_3b14_ESO · May 2014

They knew this was happening shortly after the patch went live (if not sooner). Their dumb asses just getting into work has nothing to do with their inability to respond. It has everything to do with massive ineptitude.

RingobloodtheOld · May 2014

Wow, do you guys love to whine, VR levels are to be challenging no matter what. Im very happy with the changes in difficulty. I dont want this game to be causal like World of Warcraft has become. If your VR7 and your dieing alot now, then redo your build or learn new tactics, You not suppost to face roll things when ur a Vet. That's the point. They made the PVE way to easy, at launch, way to easy. I am happy with this. I mean yeah, i am getting one shotted, but it just shows i need to change my gameplay, which i'm fine with. So plz stop your whining.

Hilgara · May 2014

This issue is also top of the Tamriel Foundry and Reddit forums and I assume everywhere else so its not like they won't be aware of it. They are probably trying to find a way to fix it without losing face. Just admit it, you f*cked up....again!

born2beagator · May 2014

another l2p. Check the damage being reported in the kill cams. This isn't a tactics or build issue

you should NEVER be one shotted by on level TRASH MOBS. Even bosses should not one shot you with a regular attack, special attack that can be avoided, yes. Regular no. There is a point where "challenging" becomes "frustrating." Not everyone is an uber hardcore gamer with a ton of time to sink into the game to find the perfect build.I'm just glad you are in the minuscule minortiy on this issue

Silowyi · May 2014

Honestly I don't care if leveling is slower, I'm not in a hurry. I didn't ask for more XPs from VR mobs. I plan to be here a long time so I don't need to be VR(max) this moment.

What bothers me is the inability to do the "solo" things "solo". If they're trying to force grouping, this isn't doing it because people really don't want to group to do the outdoor solo stuff other than world bosses and dolmens.

*note - I realize there are some people who DO want to group for everything and that's totally valid and I'm obviously not speaking for you. You can still group either way, but people who like to hunt for resources, explore, do a quest when they're near it and then go back to looking around (which is not conducive with being in a group... hey guys, keep waiting while I gather crafting mats!

I'm also not asking for easy mode. I didn't mind planning my strategies for having to deal with groups of 2 or 3 or whatever, but with the difference now, as a light armor wearer, if I see a multi-group with 2 archers in it... *chills*... yes there are some builds that maybe can still thrive, but if you look at the numerous threads/posts this isn't about losing an "easy button", it's just crazy at this point.

Silowyi · May 2014

Hilgara wrote: »

This issue is allso top of the Tamriel Foundry and Reddit forums and I assume everywhere else so its not like they won't be aware of it. They are probably trying to find a way to fix it without losing face. Just admit it, you f*cked up....again!

They don't even need to admit they messed up. I'd be happy with an official word stating that it is or is not supposed to be like this so I can choose how to proceed. I'm not concerned with who messed up or why, just tell us if this is the way it is or if it's going to be fixed. Silence sucks, just talk to us.

born2beagator · May 2014

Silowyi wrote: »

Hilgara wrote: »

This issue is allso top of the Tamriel Foundry and Reddit forums and I assume everywhere else so its not like they won't be aware of it. They are probably trying to find a way to fix it without losing face. Just admit it, you f*cked up....again!

They don't even need to admit they messed up. I'd be happy with an official word stating that it is or is not supposed to be like this so I can choose how to proceed. I'm not concerned with who messed up or why, just tell us if this is the way it is or if it's going to be fixed. Silence sucks, just talk to us.

Exactly. Fixing it is apology enough for me. But I want to know what is going on. If this is intended and is going to be left as is, I'm leaving.

BrotherBear · May 2014

I'm not one to jump on a QQ bandwagon, but this one I'm all aboard. Fighting 3 V5 mobs is much more difficult than before, but throw in a 4th add/summon and my V5 Sorc, wearing V5 purp/blue - 5light/2heavy, is just a spot on the ground. I have just around 1700 spell res and was hit with 1 spell for over 1500 damage. Unable to recover from such devastation with 2 melee running at me I died... quickly... from trash. It feels like my spell resistance and armor are not blocking/absorbing anything... I could fight nekkid with the same results. The game seems like it's forcing me to look for groups just for questing solo stuff. Every trash fight feels like a boss fight, leaving me with little health and no magic left. This experience boost patch has slowed my experience gains down since I now have to take everything twice as slow or just sneak by and skip what was easy prey yesterday. Not Enjoyable. Needs Fixing.

Nikkae · May 2014

Agreed. Went into VR Fungal Grotto last night and couldn't get past the first wave of trash mobs. We died multiple times and ended up leaving. I tried joining a group the other day and they were lvl VR1 and yesterday they are VR2. I don't understand...Completely unplayable!

Valerien · May 2014

RingobloodtheOld wrote: »

Wow, do you guys love to whine, VR levels are to be challenging no matter what. Im very happy with the changes in difficulty. I dont want this game to be causal like World of Warcraft has become. If your VR7 and your dieing alot now, then redo your build or learn new tactics, You not suppost to face roll things when ur a Vet. That's the point. They made the PVE way to easy, at launch, way to easy. I am happy with this. I mean yeah, i am getting one shotted, but it just shows i need to change my gameplay, which i'm fine with. So plz stop your whining.

You have got to tell me what build you had where being one shoted is your builds fault. And then what changes you made to your build which stopped this from happening.

Seriously my main is a Vet level Nightblade Duel wield which I am informed by these forums is a awful choice. I should be a sword and board dragon knight but I have not died yet. And to me that is how I judge my skill is whether I can achieve the various challenges without using a trial and error approach throwing myself at a mob till I get luck, he gets unlucky or whatever and I take him down with dying 10 times, being a learning experience.

What I can't see other than a complete rebuild and going Fotm is how my combination of skills currently can be changed around to make trash mobs with twice the health and double the damage not a problem. Its not as if fighting 3 mobs + any adds they have was a walk in the park before they got buffed. Its also not that I picked *** poor skills and used them poorly thereby allowing a change of skills and rotations to make that massive a difference.

Now I am not ruling out a reroll and going dragon knight and enjoying levels 1 to 50 over again, if this change is going to stay. But I'd like to know if VR mobs are by design and not going to be changed back any time soon. Cause personally and it is just me I don't see trash mobs being able to one shot me as fun. I don't see what skill or options are available that can stop this from happening. So I will go find an option that is fun.

oxygen_boarderb16_ESO · May 2014

To be fair, vet content before was so easy it was almost a joke. Kind of glad they increased the difficulty. Whether its by design or not, time will tell.

Guess you get go full glass cannon anymore, or if you do, you have to play tight. GL.

babylon · May 2014

Hands up who cba tiptoeing through vet mobs now?

Silowyi · May 2014

Sadly... me. It really irks me trying to find ways around trash mobs instead of clearing a path. I was never reckless, being squishy and all, but I never felt the need to try to reach point "x" by going over rocks and behind tents except when necessary... now it seems mostly necessary.

Again, we're talking trash mobs, not bosses, not elite content. yes, VR should be challenging, but it's ratcheted up just a bit too much. I'm not asking for easy, actually not even asking them to change it back. I just want to know if this is the new normal. I'd really hate to make expensive changes only to have it "adjusted" on Monday's maintenance.

Kalagon · May 2014

Still waiting for a response