Am I the only one who seems to have my killers blade bug out and give no health back and keep getting killed, end up spending more time by the wayshrine than killing stuff and ragequit and come over to the forums?

good for you Maura.

Now please fix my *** zenimax

Axewaffle wrote: »

Jowrik wrote: »

Jade_Knightblazerb14_ESO wrote: »

Angua wrote: »

Thank god I'm not wasting my money waiting on my NB WW to be fixed.

How pitiful my character is... I am a
1. Nightblade
2. Werewolf
3. 2HD Sword User
4. 5 Heavy Armor, 1 Light, 1 Medium

I currently have kept my Crazy Pendent from Grahtwood that tells me how bad I am... "They would be better off with out you" it tells me all the time... Sometimes I think the group I am with thinks the same...

Right there with you, my character couldn't get any worse at this point:
- Nightblade
- Vampire (thank god that got fixed (to some extent?))
- Bow-only user, build entirely focussed around Mark target, Haste & Siphoning attacks
- 5 Medium 2 Light
- Most passives I picked are the ones listed by OP

I think the worst possible makeup at the moment is:

Nightblade-Werewolf-Stam based-Bow-Medium/Heavy-Dps

So you arent far off being one of the worst possible combos in the game

That would be me...

ZOS. I can see you are trying hard - I appreciate it.

What it seems you might be missing is that you have two types of players:

Haters. "OMG ZOS lied about Craglorn." These are the most vocal. They'll complain about every single thing. Literally, they would complain if you changed the game's icon. They'll complain that you don't have player housing, even though you never promised it. They'll complain that you don't ship them handmade cupcakes. They make the most noise, but really nothing more than noise. You will never make them happy.

Fans. We reported the NB (and other) problems and moved on. We kept quiet and waited for a fix. We pinned our hopes on this patch - and sadly our hopes were shattered. It seems a lot more of us have now become vocal.

I have defended you vehemently on Reddit. I have pointed out how the haters were wrong. I have told people to be patient. I have said you mean well. I don't have any ground to stand on now; nor do I have the energy - I've simply been let down. What I have said has turned out to be a lie. The vibe I'm getting there now is sour and I simply can't deny what's being said.

For people in guilds (such as myself) we can "make do." I know as a nightblade I will get a party - my guildies are just that awesome. PUGs are not awesome, at all. I seriously wonder what the "guildless" nightblades are going to do - because until 1.2.X drops they are going to get kicked from every single party, I guarantee it. Not only have they been nerfed, but the mobs have been buffed. Nightblades have been double-nerfed. You should have really left that nerf out of the patch until all the abilities were fixed - it was such a bad decision - it really feels like you are laughing at us, turning and squeezing the bullet in our wound.

If you did a patch with absolutely no class fixes besides nightblades you would be making a big statement - a very healthy statement.

Ignore all the "cool stuff" you explained in recent interviews (player housing, additional skill lines, the crime system, etc.), ignore the players who demand that - they will always be vocal and will always be unhappy. There is a very large outcry at the moment to fix the nightblade - a very large amount of voices that have been silent up until now. This next week will define the life of the game.

Fix nightblades, yesterday. Fix templars.

Fix the crashes the day after yesterday.

Then we can talk about the fluff that the more vocal kids are crying about.

Do not even mention any "cool features" to the press until you have sorted out the fans.

Seriously, guys, /u/wopperjoe is upset and losing hope. That's really worrying - this guy has been extremely vocal in defending you.

Fix the bugs, do nothing else and say that you are doing nothing else. Saying you are working round the clock on features like the crime system makes your fans angry. It makes no difference to the haters because they will never be happy. Figure out who you need to listen to.

And seriously, find PTS players who actually test the game instead of streaming it so that they can get subscribers. This stuff should have been picked up in PTS, but it wasn't because the PTS player's fans demanded DKfaceroll. PTS players have a responsibility to the rest of us - PTS is not a freaken theme park or privilege, it's a responsibility.

Give me grounds to stand on, again, when I am defending you.

/a deeply concerned fan

I'm beating the crap out of everything the way Nightblades are now. Once they're actually fixed, I'm going to be a holy terror.

Video or it doesnt happend

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Incoming Fixes & Improvements
Dark Cloak (Shadow Cloak morph): Dark Cloak is not currently removing damage-over-time (DoT) debuffs as it should be .../quote]

A debuff is a weakening of the enemy, a reduction of his attributes like hitpoints, magicka, attackspeed etc., a damage-over-time is NOT a debuff, it is damage. This BS calling a damaging effect a debuff started with WoW and it is spreading ever since. How can we expect anybody to use the word debuff correctly if even officials use it the wrong way?

Class balance and fixes should have come out way way way before any content updates. Period. I am not going to sit here and tell you how to run your company, but honest to gods, this is nuts. These issues existed since beta (I know, because I used to complain about them back then) and still have yet to be addressed and we have to wait 6 more months for a basic, archetypal class to function as it should?

Nobody here is asking for special privileges over other classes. We are rightfully asking you to fix this broken mess of a class skill line so that we come somewhere close to the viability of the other classes. Especially in VR content, which is basically the only content that matters.

I am in the medical field. When someone comes into the ER with a badly fractured leg screaming in pain, you don't tell them that they have to wait 90 days before you go and get a cast out of the supply closet for them to function and then not offer them any pain medication (while the other patients are treated first with a scraped knee). Really poor triage skills you guys have here.

We NB's have been sitting here in the proverbial waiting room for all this time, with badly broken legs, screaming in pain with this class, and we get a content update before you fix us?

"Sorry your legs are broken bro, here's a magazine to read! You don't get to vacation in that place you see pictured because your legs are broken, but brb while we buff the other classes! Be back in 6 months with your crutches!"

I've already cancelled my account. When the Nightblade has been fully buffed, repaired and works properly and is on the same power level as the other classes, I'll be back. I'm not making a vampire female altmer sorcerer in heavy armor using a destro staff like every single other neckbeard on this game.

My NBs are only in their teens so this Vet stuff is way above my head.

We are incredibly squishy; there is no margin for error. If I do not carryout a fight perfectly or a couple of extra mobs spawn on top of you during a fight or something else unexpected happens like skills randomly not firing(cough...), I will die. One thing NBs should be good at running away when they know they are above their head; it doesn't happen because ordinary mobs home in and rush at you for incredibly long distances, double quick and nothing you do can prevent this reliably.

The other problem is more general and effects everyone not just NBs. ZoS has refused things that would allay some problems - eg cheap respecs until the skill trees are stable -temporarily.

I am happy to see the fixes that will be happening in the future, just wish they were sooner. As of today, after the patch that was released my nightblade still sucks. Sure my crit rating increased some, but now with the big boost to the vet zones npc's, I feel like I am back to square one again. Was really excited and then bam I was dead in one or two hits over and over again. Think my NB is going to just sit and craft or try to loot motifs while I grind out a DK or sorc now.

frwinters_ESO wrote: »

This whole thread should have been "Thank you @ZOS_JessicaFolsom cant wait"

By nature I'm not a sycophant...

frwinters_ESO wrote: »

Thank you again for finally posting this. Lately with all the people saying the nightblades were bugged I didnt believe them as I didnt feel the class was bugged at all. Once we get fixed were gonna be the OP ones and everyone is gonna ask for nerfs! Cant wait!

Your beliefs are irrelevant. They are bugged, they've even acknowledged they're bugged. They said they were fixing them with this patch, and what did they do? they broke more skills and barely fixed anything.

Now they tell us we have to wait until 1.2.x for a fix. Just to put things in perspective since you're struggling with the subject, this is 1.1.2 patch, the next patch will be 1.1.x where as x = 3-9

Can you figure out what that means? I'll give you a hint, it has everything to do with the current responses in this thread and why people are upset. So you can take your attitude else where. You have a lot of nerve coming into a thread about nightblade bugs and pretty much trivializing their issues.

And it's funny that you say "they're not bugged but once they're fixed, we'll be OP" If it's not bugged, what's to fix?

frwinters_ESO wrote: »

People are never happy. First complaints that ZOS isn't listening. then they post hey look were listening and here is the intended update. Now people complain, it isn't soon enough. Give the people a break. I am not a coder, but I am sure it takes time to redo the code, test it out, make sure its working right, find out your fix didn't work, start from the beginning, try it again rinse and repeat.

This whole thread should have been "Thank you @ZOS_JessicaFolsom cant wait"

That's it. I have only ever played a Nightblade. I felt the class was overpowered. Do i have problems with mutiple targets, yes I do but it just makes me want to figure out a better way to use my build and overcome a hard objective. Thats what a game is. Overcome objective, level up, feeling of satisfaction.

Thank you again for finally posting this. Lately with all the people saying the nightblades were bugged I didnt believe them as I didnt feel the class was bugged at all. Once we get fixed were gonna be the OP ones and everyone is gonna ask for nerfs! Cant wait!

I think you are missing the point here, see this game has been in development for quite some time and went through an ALPHA and BETA period where the developers allowed players like yourself to play the game so they could gather data on what was working and what was not working. The issues with Nightblades have been known since BETA and has been reported since BETA. Not since the official release date of April 4th, but since BETA. As someone who actually does code yes you are right it does take time to redo code, however ZOS has taken the time and resources that could have been used to fix a portion of the issues with the class and have instead released nerfs for a class that was broken since BETA. In my opinion it would seem more productive to actually address the issues that have been known since BETA, provide the appropriate fixes, collect data and tweak the class as needed to bring it in balance with the other classes.

I recall roughly a month ago there was a huge outcry by players due to Vampires being overpowered in PvP, ZOS was extremely quick to address the issue, it did not take them 6 weeks to implement a hotfix to resolve the issue. The NB community is simply asking for the same consideration since we were told a majority of the issues ( list can be found here: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/compilation-of-bugged-nightblade-abilities/ ) would be addressed with 1.1.

Can you make due as a Nightblade, certainly you can I have leveled up to Veteran Rank 11 as a NB at this point. Can we thrive in a 1v1 situation in PvP, we certainly can, but in high population campaigns such as Auriel's Bow and Wabbajack 1v1 situations quickly become 1v2, 1v3 and my only real option is to stealth and try to reset the fight, but as the original post states Shadow Cloak is broken. Can a NB solo most Veteran Rank dungeon we certainly can by exploiting the Shadow Cloak mechanic. Regardless of all these facts the class is still broken.

Finally for anyone that made a statement that they didn't feel NB were broken I would like to make a suggestion. Go to ESOUI download and use an Addon that reports damage or combat logs test the abilities with and without specific abilites, passives and morphs and then report back.

ScardyFox wrote: »

frwinters_ESO wrote: »

This whole thread should have been "Thank you @ZOS_JessicaFolsom cant wait"

By nature I'm not a sycophant...

So thanking someone is always about gaining an advantage for something? When someone gives some praise they always want something in return? Maybe thats why your name is Scardyfox, afraid of the world so they have to hide and be hateful.