ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

R0M2K wrote: »

If thats all ZoS can offer to NB ill quit.

Where are the buffs to Medium armor Like granting dodge ie?
Where are the buffs for dw?

Ffff i dont want to play in ligth armor wielding a staff !!!

We have plans to improve those also, but this post is intended to focus specifically on the Nightblade class abilities and skill lines.

If you are planning to buff medium only then I have a suggestion for you: Just wipe heavy armor from the game already.

Really, its disgusting feeling forced to wear light because the best dps comes from magicka-based-skills no matter your class (I play both 2h dk and dw nb).

Heavy armor, because the ridiculous armor cap paired with defensives skills giving you 700/800 armor is what makes heavy a disgusting pick even for a "fighter stereotype" class.

Im fine with the medium being looked into (as its way behind light aswell) but heavy right now is barely a rping choice in PVP/VR.

I cant understand who though those passives were even close to the light armor ones in pvp. Not a single damage reduction/cc reduction/crit reduction passive... while light has spell pen/crit/mag cost reduction. You are pairing base stats like armor, health regen and such from the heavy tree with spell critical or magicka cost reduction? very fair.. as both of them have the same difficulty to rise in game (irony) and only the strongest stats like crit have a cap (irony again).

Health regen, armor... easy to cap stats even wearing light only with a few enchants or food or simply spamming (thanks endless magicka pool/regen) a defensive skill. Not to mention, 0,5%/p weapon damage (must be a joke?), 0,5%/p incoming heals, and active skill being usable while not wearing it.

So yes, please, look into the medium tree (so we can actually have a enjoyable medium armor exp in our nbs/dks not completely based in spell damage), but dont stop there. Review the heavy tree aswell.

ESO is becoming Elder Sorcerors Online with so many robes around in pvp. Sometimes I think Im back in 2003 in a well-known korean mmorpg. How did they love casters...

Thank you Jessica for let us know you are looking at the NB issue.

Master assassin and sap essence are really good news (or so it seems, I'll give it a try later).

Is there any change we could get a priority for fixes and therefore a class balance early than 1.2? I know it is a lot a work, but it is quite a long time for us that only play NB.

I'm sure a lot of people would gladly help you gather information and discuss class balance and any changes that could be done to put NB, if not at the same level of other classes, at least in a less uneven position.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Siphoning Attacks: This ability’s tooltip will no longer says that it restores health. It never restored health, nor was it intended to. This is a tooltip bug. We have a fix for this, and it will go out with a future patch.

What about the other morph for this ability, Leeching Strikes? The tooltip says that it provides 4% health on hit. It does not. It absolutely does not. It never has. It provides 2.4% health on hit.

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I play a NB but focus on the Siphon tree and bow. I haven't had many problems (outside the bow skill) but I really hope my NB pals lines get fixed very soon.

And i do agree, many of these things should have been fixed earlier or now. I mean if you know about it and know the problem, why don't you fix it now?

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Though I don't agree with your premise, your argument is all the more reason to make Nightblades more viable in grouping scenarios.

It's not my premise. They're on the record as saying the VR content past VR3 is meant to be played through with multiple players, and their adjustments to skills that allowed people to solo that content today backs up their previous statements.

The solo player isn't the focus of this game.

More evidence we are paying for a beta game. I vowed I would never do this again

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

Sheesh, you people are unbelieveable.

If the devs focus on fixing broken quests, you complain about OP vampires. They nerf vampires, you compain about Nightblade. They give you a huge update about all the stuff that is on their radar for Nightblade, and instead of saying "THANK YOU for finally acknowledging these things and giving us an update", you all just b*tch even more. If they told you they were fixing this stuff tomorrow, you'd probably say "wahhh wahh wahh, the world revolves around me and I don't like this - I want it done today!!! /stamp /stamp /cry ".

Next thing ya know, they will be working on this NB stuff, and you'll be saying "screw NB, there are too many bots running around stealing my wood! /cry /cry some more".

Here's an idea - instead of whining on these forums about how mad you are and how you aren't giving ZoS another cent of your hard-earned $15 - just stop. Stop playing, stop paying, stop posting on these forums, and find something else to do that actually makes you happy. It will be a relief to you and the rest of us.

Hey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ and everyone else there at ZoS who is obviously working hard - THANK YOU! And thanks for the update, it is really appreciated (at least by some of us).

*and yes, I am a nightblade, and I'm totally happy with it

You people? You really think it is the same exact individuals? And not same blanket statement with no specifics to put it into context?

And of course I would be happy with these fixes coming. Even if they were in 6 weeks time... if this were beta and not after purchase and 2nd month into my paid 3 months. I have 4 months worth of time cards which will not be redeemed for a while at present course.

Never fails. When someone can't refute facts, they go straight to insults.

Shed the attitude. Keep the tail.

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Nandred wrote: »

Ok for everyone whining about this 1.2.x thing. If you look at the patch.. we are playing 1.2 right now. It means that the patch for the fix is in a few weeks at most, not months.

Wha?



"Maintenance for Patch 1.1.2 has been completed for the North American megaserver, and that server is back up. Maintenance for the European megaserver will begin Friday at 4AM CEST."

well ****, here I was thinking everyone was over reacting, now it was just me who was under reacting. My point still stands, except now its... months instead of weeks.

TY for the correction mate!

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

plamillusionub17_ESO wrote: »

Thanks for the update looking forward to it

I managed to level to vr 10 as a dw/bow Nightblade, and while it wasn't always easy it is definitely doable it just required some skill changes for certain mobs. The only places I couldn't solo were the public group dungeons and the lightning elementals in vr 10 zone.

Still, it will be great when these changes hit live.

Me too.

I haven't seen any issues with VR content as a Nightblade. At least nothing so serious to warrant the wailing and gnashing of teeth going on in this thread.

Instead of coming here and speaking condescendingly to everyone who is obviously not as 1337 as you, offer some of your pro tips or pro advice.

Nandred wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Nandred wrote: »

Ok for everyone whining about this 1.2.x thing. If you look at the patch.. we are playing 1.2 right now. It means that the patch for the fix is in a few weeks at most, not months.

Wha?



"Maintenance for Patch 1.1.2 has been completed for the North American megaserver, and that server is back up. Maintenance for the European megaserver will begin Friday at 4AM CEST."

well ****, here I was thinking everyone was over reacting, now it was just me who was under reacting. My point still stands, except now its... months instead of weeks.

TY for the correction mate!

No problem.
Whatever the case, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not cancelling my subscription or anything. I'm too much of a fanboy and have waiting for this game for a decade. I -am- super bummed though about patch 1.1.2. and I'm really disappointed in the timeline provided.

These are all things you should be able to hotfix. There is no reason to take a month or two, to implement things like this. Not with the amount of money you charge for this game. With the amount of ourage you really think a month and a half wait is appropriate? NB passives have been broken since BETA!

We were waiting for THIS patch to fix the issues (from BETA), and you nerfed us instead. Now you're saying wait another month or two, for the very basic skills of our class to actually function? Not function more powerfully or effectively, but AT ALL? What, do you have to actually hire real thieves to figure this stuff out?

Matt Firor and his team should be ashamed. This is disgraceful.

Its like that scene in Die Hard with a Vengeance, where Bruce Willis is forced to wear a racist sign in Harlem.

I get the feeling that Zenimax is constantly held at gunpoint, and forced to make the worst decisions possible. From lying about monetization, to the Imperial edition, to the bugs, to over nerfing already broken classes.

It's like someone is forcing you to *** off your players at every turn, including telling us, that you have fixes for NB's, but they just weren't important enough to include in this patch, because you spent the time making us weaker. So we get to wait another month or two for simple fixes that you could simply hot fix, but *** it.

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Kevinmon wrote: »

So we have to wait another 2 months for 25% of players in the game to have playable characters? And you expect subscription retention?

Good god, even tho they have broken abilities you can still play them now and beat anyone 1v1 if you play smart

No one cares if you can beat someone 1v1 on Bloodthorn with a broken class. Congratulations you have proven everyone wrong and we should shut up and live with a broken class and deal with the fact that it will be 3-4 months past the release date before we see a minor fix to NB.

Wait. What? Siphoning strikes no longer restore health?

I'm still downloading the patch atm but from what I read in the patch notes, and this thread NB has had some fixes that will help my build (crits) A lot of what's listed for upcoming patches are skills I don't use so I can't say much for that except it's great they're looking into NB, and I do think they need to be more balanced with other classes besides fixing all their bugs.

-I think it'd be cool if the passives for coming out of invisibility was more in line with the class. I use medium armor for crits/evade. Invisibility grants next strike crit... then I get an armor/spell resist buff for 4secs? imo this should be a buff to evade for the 4secs it last and it should stack with the evade skill from medium armor and even have a reduced cost for dodge roll or even an increased crit chance for the 4sec. stealth>>>invisibility>>>crit/stun... tank? not really how the class description goes

...just sayin.