Maverick827 wrote: »

Blackhorne wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

The problem is that ZOS is not addressing anything.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/64066/patch-notes-v1-0-1#latest
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/71736/patch-notes-v1-0-2#latest
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/78407/patch-notes-v1-0-3#latest
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/81292/patch-notes-v1-0-4#latest
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/84259/patch-notes-v1-0-5#latest
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/89332/patch-notes-v1-0-6#latest
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/91966/patch-notes-v1-0-7#latest
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/95370/patch-notes-v1-0-8#latest

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/tracker

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/category/development

The problem is that you haven't been paying attention

You clearly didn't pay attention to my post.

Throwing patch notes out isn't communication, and it doesn't address issues when they need to be addressed: as they are being discussed by the community.

I'm not going to appload ZOS for meeting the bare minimum of minor patch notes every week.

On top of forum posts, news posts on the main site, AMAs, etc.

jokemabry wrote: »

Crumpy wrote: »

Why do people that have complaints with ESO get continuously accused of being 'WoW-wanters'? In most cases that's not even a valid riposte.

your brain dead wow died years ago its a giant titanic if anything they have higher standards from playing a game that set the bar.

Good point, well made.

Personally, I'm enjoying the game immensely. Both, when I'm out playing solo with the occasional, random tandem-run through a delve or on a boss with someone who just happens to be there at the same time, or when paired up with my best friend. It functions, for me, as both a solid RPG and a good MMO. Not perfect, mind you, because of the hybrid nature of the design choices, but really good either way.

Sure, there are things I'd like to see. Amor preview, a more coherent guild-store search system, the erstwhile 'questionaire' that would have seperated out people by play-style and such... but most of these are minor issues. Overall, I feel the game offers a solid ES experience, one that I'm thoroughly enjoying.

Bugs are getting fixed at a fair clip, new content is coming, Craglorn immediately and more world guilds, Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood, etc, soon. Not had a problem with customer service on my end, thank goodness.

To be perfectly honest, people who troll the forums with cries of F2P and 'wow-clone' are just that, trolls. They're joy-devouring pests, nit-picking, soulless beasts here to, and I quote Jayne Cobb, damage my calm.

There are legitimate issues to be resolved, sure. But if the game is 'unplayable' because you can't color your amor then that, sir/ma'am, is your issue, and a fairly large one, at that.

It may not be "bad" per-se, but it's just....boring. I unsubscribed yesterday after a week of not even playing. There are too many irritating things about the game that far outweigh the good things. It killed me to unsubscribe because I've followed the game from the beginning and have championed all things ESO, but this is not what I was hoping for. Far from it.

At first when I saw the bad sales my first thought was that someone would pull the plug on the game, same as what happend to TSW. In TSW as far as I know the zone promissed for fall 2012 has not yet been released, that's becaus they have some 20 devs left on all 3 Funcom games.

I'm happy to see Zenimax postponed the x-box/ps version of the game, not so happy about the lie for why(network issue a month before release? common...) When you look at all the people they hire now it seems like Zenimax is still all in and want to try and relaunch the game.

What worries me is the complete lack of imagination in certain areas of the game, and the rather failed execution of some important systems. I always give devs the benefit of the doubt, but when excatly what the players predict happens I'm not impressed.

I'm looking forward to Craglorn but considering I still haven't seen any loot, and so far the VR dungeon loot has been pretty dull, so why should the loot suddenly become much better in Craglorn? We'll see I guess.

alanspurlock_ESO wrote: »

I don't feel it is. I love it. But man is there some hate around the net over this.

Personally I think a lot of the hate comes from the top down approach that Zenimax is doing. That may be natural in the US, but here in Europe we're far more egealitarian, so the top down approach is more offending to us.

I remeber in 2005 when WoW was launched in EU, there was some communication with devs on forums, and the fact that devs played in some guilds did give them some credit. Then when you find references to Everquest exploits and even ADOM references you know that the designers really have played rpgs before.

Over at Funcom it's also much more open devs talk with players on forums, twitter, PM's, and test forums taking feedback and improving the game on player feedback.

Take the guild store system, the official reason was that the guild stores would prevent gold sellers to controll the entire mega server, and prevent players from too much competetion etc. The problem was when the game launched and we called the bluff. Item duping for weeks, bots running all over the place, and probably worst of all... there was no economy to protect with the guild stores.

Well i played bad games mate , this is not a bad game.

This is a good game , nothing great or to write home about , but good.

Lets see what craglorn will do , the so promised patch.

leveling experience was incredibly boring by mmo standards, loading screen bugs are pretty frustrating to deal with all the time, passives and skills that simply dont work kills the carrot on the stick when youre trying to level a class/weapon line to unlock something and when you finally get it the thing doesnt even work. i enjoy the game at vr10 and the skill system they have in place is awesome, being able to respec on the fly at any time was a really good idea, and the crafting system is well thought out and a fun way to keep yourself geared.

but man the bugs are piling up to a ridiculous amount, last night zoned into a dungeon was greeted by invisible mobs chunking me to death. and now today logged in then took a wayshrine and now im completely locked out of accessing that character, 10 min loading screen into alt+f4 over and over. im starting to wonder why even bother.

No, It's not a bad game, but it is a fairly run-of-the-mill one. I do think it's good enough to exist as a F2P game alongside the likes of Rift, Aion and Tera, which is where I see ESO being in less than 12 months.

I think this game great, im about 5 days in and I love it , best mmo I have every played

jar3y1995 wrote: »

I think this game great, im about 5 days in and I love it , best mmo I have every played

me too

lavendercat wrote: »

im absolutely loving the game. its actually the best game ive ever played, and that includes "elite" on the bbc model B !! :P

obviously everyone has their own reasons for complaining, but i just find it really wierd to read so many bad reviews. some people seem to want the world on a stick. !!

anyway what i really want is to read about other people's (positive) experiences in the game, not why its terrible because there is no armour dye. (lol)

Hah! I recall playing Elite on my ZX Spectrum. That was a while back.

doggie wrote: »

At first when I saw the bad sales my first thought was that someone would pull the plug on the game, same as what happend to TSW. In TSW as far as I know the zone promissed for fall 2012 has not yet been released, that's becaus they have some 20 devs left on all 3 Funcom games.

I'm happy to see Zenimax postponed the x-box/ps version of the game, not so happy about the lie for why(network issue a month before release? common...) When you look at all the people they hire now it seems like Zenimax is still all in and want to try and relaunch the game.

What worries me is the complete lack of imagination in certain areas of the game, and the rather failed execution of some important systems. I always give devs the benefit of the doubt, but when excatly what the players predict happens I'm not impressed.

I'm looking forward to Craglorn but considering I still haven't seen any loot, and so far the VR dungeon loot has been pretty dull, so why should the loot suddenly become much better in Craglorn? We'll see I guess.

If they relaunch this close to the initial launch, it's going to include a f2p option - and sadly, it will have to. I don't like F2P at all, but it does do one thing and that is keep bots away, since the publishers can always undercut them through the store. Botting managers know this and won't bother quite as much as they do now.

Talk about small favours, though.

silent88b14_ESO wrote: »

Part of the problem I think is that the developers expected folks to want their game to be fun and interesting, but didn't expect or provide sufficiently for those who treat it as either a business environment or a sabotage opportunity. Possibly naive, but more likely regular folks preferring to think well of other people. A genesis of cynicism.

Yes, this is what I think too. Naive but nice is how they come across.
I love the game, finding few intrinsic faults, but the botting and hacking are making me reconsider if I wish to renew when my sub runs out.