I find veteran content much too difficult to the point of constant frustration.

To add to my point , i just entered a vet8 solo dungeon , the enemies are trolls.

Now look at how funny this is:

Normal Trolls , 9225 HP.

Boss Troll , 8387 HP , hits for less dmg and regen less HP also :P

Just what now?

I don't know about too difficult, but the difficulty is very irregular. Some things are easy to the point of being boring while others are a well of frustration. There seems to be little in the middle.

It's frustrating at times, especially as it enforces having specific skills and discourages using less than optimal characters.

I found it harder (Templar bow) until I switch to dest/resto staff with 5 light armor and 2 heavy, then it was easy again.

Just wish my bow build was still worth it but nothing compares to dest/resto staff combo builds. Add Vampire Bat swam ultimate and... its silly easy.

There ought to have been an option in between the others: I find veteran content to be frustrating at times but on the whole I enjoy it.

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I find veteran content much too difficult to the point of constant frustration - but only because I was playing broken Nightblade, ZOS doesn't give a $hit about.

I also play a broken NB and I have zero issue with Vet content. ZoS does in fact give a *** about NB, if you would bother to read some of the upcoming patch notes you'd see they have TONS of fixes coming soon, cheers

Not soon enough, and there is no guarantee its going to be implemented in any of the upcoming patches. Its just a stuff they "working" on at the moment, same as they "combating" bots - and we all see how well its going.

To everyone complaining that there class needs buffs before they can do veteran content, you aren't exploring all the options your class offers nor trying new things.

I find the content easy enough, granted I still get killed every so often when soloing the dungeons but its sorta expected.

Now granted, I am only v2 but I haven't really noticed too much changes. I did notice that the mobs were a little harder when I went to the v2 mobs but as soon as I upgraded my gear to v2 versions, it was back to how it was at v1 and before.

I use a double resto staff, 7/7 light armor build as a wood elf Templar and pretty much soloed everything.

The issue I have is more with the lack luster rewards.

I consider myself a non HC but experienced gamer. I find most places somewhat easy compared to some games known for difficulty. I am the kind of person that doesn't mind dying 8 times attempting a world boss just to decide to take a break from it and attempt it later(Except when this involves loading screens or the most unforgivable game design flow ever long unskipable cutscenes before very hard boss fights .). I also do not mind games that make you change your approach though compared to other games ESO is one of the most free of I have seen in this respect. Some people forget to actually compare the flexibility compared to other games. And some people don't actually wish h any flexibility .

Thanks for all the input into the poll. At this point 48% believe that vet content is at a good level, with 10% feeling it is too easy and the rest thinking it is either a little too difficult or rage-quit level frustration.

Some mentioned that they believe vet content does not cater to unusual or hybrid builds.

I beg to differ.

I run a 7/7 heavy armor sorceror using exclusively 2 handers and a bow. My attribute set-up is 20 magicka 20 health and 9 stamina. I am not a hardcore gamer... I work full time and I am married. I have died a few times in VR content, with the most being 3 tries on one boss. I don't use any add-ons, which probably is dumb since I never know the amount of health anything has.

I think the mechanics in this game force you to be very crafty and cunning in combat. For instance, to take out 3-packs or bigger, I start out by laying down Daedric Minefield which is 5 snares that do ~250 damage each. I then position myself behind it and sneak attack with my bow on the squishiest caster/ranged mob. I burst them down while the melee gets caught in the minefield. Once I have taken out the ranged mobs, I either switch to my 2 hander for the melee or kite them around again with the minefield.

Alternatively, sometimes I like to start the same way but switch immediately to 2 hander once the melee is caught in the minefield. I then use a gap-closer which always criticals to rush to the caster (healing myself due to Critical Surge). I then activate Thundering Presence which greatly increase my armor and spell resist almost to hard-cap.

I think VR is just a matter of evening the odds using CC and finding the best build for a given situation.

I like the challenge and to be honest that is part of why I play. I appreciate the fact that I am no longer able to run in and pull 6 trash mobs and button smash my way out of it like I could at lvl 42 or so.

3 NPC's can give me a hard time now if I am not paying attention and close the ranged guys quickly.

I dunno, overall I really enjoy it right now but I can see how some players may feel that after all this work/questing/grind...they do not "feel" powerful. Running up against trash in most other games once you have achieved a certain level is a lol stomp and bosses become the only real challenge but not in this game..

I got my bottom handed to me multiple times last night trying to kill a quest boss named Septima...Oh my god...I'd burst on her and take out 1/4 of her bar then she'd vanish and sick like 20 ghost NPC's on me...So I had to pick them off then she'd come back in to fight and I'd take another whack at her only to have her vanish again and sick 20 more NPCs on me. FML...I rage quit lol. My armor was falling off my body when I logged out.

Never beat her but I'll try it again tonight (I think lol) after I go repair my gear...that'll cost me 1600 gold or more I am sure.

So even with my rage quit and QQ last night ( I was so pissed lol...I shoulda recorded myself and put it on youtube), I still want to press on. These frustration moments are few and far between but the challenge is persistent and once I do beat Septima...I'll be all the happier and satisfied with the accomplishment.

Yes you die a lot more in veteran area but you also learn to adapt and improvise to get on top. I find veteran levels a challenge but a fun challenge.

Also people in veteran areas are ten times more interested in grouping up.

All in all I'm a big fan of the veteran system, but if you love to play alts I can understand why it would be a frustrating system.

I find them not difficult if it was not for the BS one shot one kill mechanic. The boss designs are good. (i.e. don't stand in the bad stuff, kill this object before something else happens, and so on). My biggest complaint (other than a bug here and there) is the fact that you can get one shotted out of the blue and there is nothing you can do about it. For instance, last night we ran through Banished Cells. The Daedroth fire boss light me on fire and proceeded to breathe fire on me. I had less than half a second to respond before I died. I have overcharged magicka resistance, 49 points in health, and was blocking as well, which makes it more of a pain boss maneuver. Bosses shouldn't be more difficult because they hit harder. They should be more difficult do to their mechanics. Yes, they should hit a little harder but not one shot hard. Lastly, I am VR8 this dungeon was meant for players 3 levels below mine.

This is speaking specifically and only for Vet Instanced Dungeons. The rest of Vet PvE content is perfectly fine.