How much trouble do you have with Veteran content?

SilverWF

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

All is OK.

kip_silverwolf

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

I'm enjoying the challenge of veteran level. Due to a bug I had with Molag Bal, I didn't pick up Cadwell's Silver until I was VR3, so I probably found the first couple of areas easier than I would have if I had entered at VR1 & 2.

I'm currently finishing off the VR 3 & 4 areas and enjoying every minute of them! They're not easy - I would have been disappointed if they were. I do have to think about strategy and often have to adapt tactics but that is what I enjoy - the sense of satisfaction at overcoming a difficult area or boss!

Loco_Mofo

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

NB DW/Resto and vet content is pretty easy for the most part, difficulty is not the problem.

• VR is a grind, progression is super slow.
• The story falls flat after Coldharbor, it's no longer immersive.
• VR content is unrewarding.
• Groups start getting selective with which classes/builds they'll accept. Ie. Stamina builds need not apply.

Biezenw22eb17_ESO

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

only more than challenging sometimes when certain quest bosses tends to be CC immune.

andrewb14_ESO45

I would say spot on but I'm only vet 2 and still in vet 1 zones so I feel I have to withhold judgement until higher vet levels. Considering I'm a templar and we are supposed to be underpowered I'm expecting to continue to find the difficulty right for me, but I started to learn to use CC (binding javelin, volcanic runes) to deal with camps of 3 or more long before vet levels. I also use light armor and resto staff, not because I feel pidgeon holed into it (have 1h/shield to 45ish) but because I built a character that's primary group role is as a healer.

And I'm 50 alchemy and have a stack of pots that restore health/stamina/majicka at the same time as well as pots that put spell crit over 100 for 13s while restoring both health and majicka.

so yeah there is that.

iuki

I find veteran content to be a little too easy, I do not feel challenged and often find myself able to breeze through content with relative ease.

Here's a lil trick that makes VR and heck most of the game considerably easier....

BLOCKING.

No, I am serious. Blocking = win.

ie. Eat some good health/magika food, run into spawn of 3 mobs (or more), hold block down, and spam the crap out of impulse. Profit.

andrewb14_ESO45

iuki wrote: »

Here's a lil trick that makes VR and heck most of the game considerably easier....

BLOCKING.

ie. Eat some good health/magika food, run into spawn of 3 mobs, hold block down, and spam the crap out of impulse. Profit.

CC is rather pointless in PvE in most cases, better to slot hotkey with a DPS buff or high dmg skill and kill those mobs as fast as possible.

Blocking=good but telling people that are struggling with vet content to ignore cc is bad advice. Gargoyles, Trolls, Harvester etc. that are immune are one thing but there are a lot of people on the forums complaining about packs of 3 normal mobs, and fast or not a good volcanic rune to keep them on their backs while you dps them down would solve most peoples problems.

BBSooner

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

I feel like veteran content gives me the difficulty I was missing in the 1-49 content.

iuki

I find veteran content to be a little too easy, I do not feel challenged and often find myself able to breeze through content with relative ease.

Yea, forgot to mention that: if you can't be bothered to block and want even easier mode in PvE...use volcanic rune with knock back morph. I AoE kill 6+ pack VR 10 spawns with that rune in a manner of seconds...totally naked.

Still, blocking is crucial mechanic that I did not really use for the longest time. Once I did, it was like /facepalm. It made the game rather trivial after that.

To me, VR 1-12 was easy. Some the quests that had elites was trouble some but in those cases I just put message in zone and gather people who need it as well; when in doubt, zerg it.

Yakidafi

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

Nb dualwield, I am waiting to get to the "wall" people talk about, will be able to enter v6-10 areas this weekend, doubt I will see any drastic change.

My perspective is that all the quests should be soloable and the skyshard dungeons, that it is.

World bossesand public dungeon should be for mostly groups.

whatsername908

I find it challenging and often fun. Sometimes getting my face smashed in by a mere three enemies is frustrating, but mostly it's pretty fun. What bothers me about Vet. content is that for all the added challenge I don't really see much reward. There are no more skillpoints or attribute points to gain from leveling, such little xp gain my bar barely pops up anymore, and the loot's comparatively no better than normal content, just higher-leveled.

Sure, the content is still good. I like questing and exploring the other factions, and I like the difficulty level. Compared to how I was playing before, I feel like Veteran content really challenges you to play better. Your character doesn'y get stronger, you, as a player, do. Honestly though, I miss pre-veteran content and feeling like I was advancing. After the initial "Awesome! I'm a Vet.!" feeling wears off, it gets old pretty fast and the sideways-leveling is entertaining for only so long.

It's not that I don't like the game, but I don't log on as often anymore and don't stay on for as long as I used to either (and neither do my friends, which doesn't really help). I log on to feed my horse and start some research. I stay on for a few quests, really get into it for a couple hours, see that my bar has barely moved a millimiter and then get overwhelmed and bored and then log off. I'm only Vet. 2 and I've got ten more veteran levels - just under two entire factions worth of content - before I can see the new content.

I like the difficulty. I like questing. I do still have fun getting lost in adventuring, but I feel like Veteran content is just missing something. I skip all dialogue - I've seen it before - but I don't progress fast enough to feel like I'm getting anywhere. To me, and probably many other slow-levelers out there, veteran content is pretty stagnant. And that is frustrating.

Doctoruniverse

The reason people are having trouble with veteran content is that its designed with group play in mind.

But the party system coupled with phasing in ESO is just horrible.

Blud

Poll needs to be more specific. You will get a bunch of VR1s saying it's no problem.

VR 1-5 is mostly okay, with some weirdly difficult or easy boss fights here or there. VR 6 is actually easier than VR5. VR7 seems to ramp up a lot and become extremely frustrating especially considering mob density, healer npcs, etc.

DrOrpheus

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

I'm only VR3 currently, but I haven't found anything too troubling, been able to solo some world bosses and solo'ed most every delve I'm come across. Sometimes the mob layout/density makes me think about how I am going to get through this and not die as most time I find 3-4 mobs together usually ends in my death solo, but this is an MMO so it shouldn't be catered to playing solo, but it also isnt to the point where you have to group or you will not pass( excluding public dungeons, anchors, and group dungeons). But I've only done a small fraction of veteran content so I guess I'll see for myself how it scales up as I progress.

born2beagator

I find veteran content to be frustrating at times, and believe it is a bit too difficult.

VR 2 right now in a 1 zone. I can handle 2 man groups. 3 man groups is a death sentence.

Grim13

I find veteran content to be frustrating at times, and believe it is a bit too difficult.

Where's the "You're a NB and rue the day ZOS fumbled your class" option?

Cody

I don't believe any of the choices I believe it is difficult, but not as difficult as people think it is. The reasons people don't do it, is not only because it is hard, but because the rewards are not worth it. if you do not care for story, you will nto do vet zones. 200 gold is not worth playing a quest for 30 mins, fighting bandits as powerfull as a grand master wizard.

AreoHotah

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

Only problem is, its getting harder to find people at dolmens and world bosses.

AreoHotah

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

Only problem is, its getting harder to find people at dolmens and world bosses.

vyal

I find veteran content to be frustrating at times, and believe it is a bit too difficult.

There's no room for error. The valley of fun is too narrow and too much of a notch. There's no sense of personal power, only bare survival. Especially with triples + summons. Fighting 5 mobs at the same time with the limited tools at our disposal, with our damage constantly nerfed, mob damage increased, mob HP increased? Not fun. Not empowering.

If the intent of the content is to make the player feel underpowered, mission accomplished. Personally, I see no value in such an approach, especially for solo content. It simply does not make any sense whatsoever. There's vastly better ways to keep players playing rather than making the content kill them constantly. What's next? One-shot mechanics, enrage timers, and dps races for solo content?

If the content (ALL VR Content) is not meant to be solo'd, then make it group only, by design. As in, don't let players attack VR NPC's until they're grouped. Then, everything would be fine and dandy.

If that's not the intent, then.. why is it like this? There's very few logical answers.

Knootewoot

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

Allright, i am now V7 and in Stonefalls. I can still manage and even killed some trolls. Only the storm atronach's i need to keep away. I can easily defeat 2-3 mobs, but they often hit like a truck. So i have to make sure the first one dies fast.

Only problem i had was in reapers march. I had to kill a healer and a assassin NPC. Both where bosses. I attack assassin, but healer keep healing him to full health. I try to attack healer, but he heals himself full while i get backstabbed and stunned by assassin. I was lucky later on when i stunned the healer and could quickly finish of the assassin.
Healer was a long fight because i had to interupt his selfheal while doing damage and heal myself when he shot me. Bow was my friend.

2 bosses is mostly very hard. I want to find people to help me, but in stonefalls i hardly see players to help for world bosses and Dolmen. There was also one dungeon with argonians (solo dungeon) and you had to kill 2 bosses there. I managed to bug them out so i had to deal one at a time. Else i was fubar.

Almost done in Stonefalls i think. So next weekend on to the next area

Soloeus

I find veteran content to be frustrating at times, and believe it is a bit too difficult.

There is nothing fulfilling about them. Impulse Spam or die is the lesson I learned. Any other trick and I die over and over. Impulse Spam with full commitment and I barely survive.

Teh_Husky

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

I completed all the VR 1-10 content as a DK tank (1H + shield, heavy armor).

I didnt find it too difficult; everything could be solo'd except the content that obviously isnt designed for that, like public dungeons, world bosses and dark anchors.

The only exception to this was a couple of quest bosses in the VR 10 zone (which for me was Reaper's March)... those took 2 people to complete, and I wasnt the only one with this issue; I helped out as many people as I could with those specific quests while I was in the zone, and I still do when Im passing through.

The hardest things for me to face were groups of enemies with multiple healers and/or casters.

The most frustrating thing to fight were healer bosses, because you had to be VERY timely with interrupts or you would lose minutes of progress whittling down their health.

Caster bosses often required me to swap out abilities before the fight in order to cope with their specific mechanics.

infraction2008b16_ESO

I find veteran content to be frustrating at times, and believe it is a bit too difficult.

iuki wrote: »

Here's a lil trick that makes VR and heck most of the game considerably easier....

BLOCKING.

No, I am serious. Blocking = win.

ie. Eat some good health/magika food, run into spawn of 3 mobs (or more), hold block down, and spam the crap out of impulse. Profit.

But the destruction staff with impulse unlocked is actually noob mode atm, try just holding down block while trying to spam abilities with the 2H and see how far it gets you. Unlike with your noob stick you actually have to watch for cues with a 2H.

Hilgara

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

Hmmm....so it looks like the point I was trying to make in this thread

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/108771/overall-gameplay-too-difficult#latest

bares out. its the vocal minority complaining about vet difficulty. Most of us are doing fine

Azinurn

if anything needs to be toned down its most likely the healers , since they never run out of mana

i mean i have been stuck in a loop whit my healer where i cant kill the healer but the healer cant kill me since neither of us will run out of mana hehe

infraction2008b16_ESO

I find veteran content to be frustrating at times, and believe it is a bit too difficult.

Azinurn wrote: »

if anything needs to be toned down its most likely the healers , since they never run out of mana

i mean i have been stuck in a loop whit my healer where i cant kill the healer but the healer cant kill me since neither of us will run out of mana hehe

Nothing is worse imo than a healer with two scamps/pyromancers.

Hilgara

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

Doctoruniverse wrote: »

The reason people are having trouble with veteran content is that its designed with group play in mind.

But the party system coupled with phasing in ESO is just horrible.

No it wasn't. Solo content is designed to be soloed. It can be face rolled as a group sure but you will never learn the various mechanics of the mobs and how to defeat them if you spend all your time in a group doing solo content. You will never get better at the game.

born2beagator

I find veteran content to be frustrating at times, and believe it is a bit too difficult.

Hilgara wrote: »

Hmmm....so it looks like the point I was trying to make in this thread

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/108771/overall-gameplay-too-difficult#latest

bares out. its the vocal minority complaining about vet difficulty. Most of us are doing fine

"Most?" a 25 vote difference is definitely a huge minority. lol.

and keep in mind that this forum isn't everyone. There are more than enough people frustrated with the current difficulty that I think at least a minor change to solo content is warranted.

jeevin

I find veteran content to be challenging, yet fulfilling. I do not wish to see any changes to the difficulty level of Veteran Content.

I like the difficulty as is. Lose the levels already!