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Tbagging should not be a bannable offense
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XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »It would be nice if players didn't feel the need to rub anything in someone else's face after defeating them in combat. Especially when it mimics doing an offensive action such as tbagging. Isn't being victorious satisfaction enough?
I agree, but I don't think people should be banned for doing it
Has ZOS's official position changed on this? Historically they have not considered it actionable per se. They consider it actionable when you ignore someone's request to stop and repeat the unwanted action despite that request, the same way they consider it harassment to continue to mudball someone after you've been asked to stop.
I think its still the same but Im not really sure. Would be easy to be deceptive in the report I would think though to get people banned whether or not they did it after or before you asked them to stop. Its also not widely known. I know of no other game that has bagging as a bannable offense in any shape or form at all. I think at the least they should notify all players of this as it is not readily known and a major part of gaming culture whether anyone likes it or not. That said I wish it wasn't bannable at all no matter what0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »It would be nice if players didn't feel the need to rub anything in someone else's face after defeating them in combat. Especially when it mimics doing an offensive action such as tbagging. Isn't being victorious satisfaction enough?
I agree, but I don't think people should be banned for doing it
I also think banning is too harsh, unless they've been warned many times repeatedly and still do it.
I wish they would just change the crouching animation somehow so it doesn't look like the action it is mimicking.PCNA0 -
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✭✭✭albertberku wrote: »First time, someone told me to stop, and i didnt stop. Then i got a warning and learned that when someone tells you to stop tbagging you have to stop. Which i thought really weird thing in a PvP game. But ok.
Then got even weirder. I was in Offline Mode just not to talk with people. Then i got another warning at some point. Then they said it doesnt matter if i am in Offline Mode. It is ok if they try to whisper me and record it. Even weirder.
And the 3rd time was a 72h ban i think i forgot myself in Offline Mode.
That is why now i am checking to make sure i am in Online Mode and my Ignored List is empty before tbagging.
What is it that you get out of tbagging that warrants so many checks every time? What is it so attractive to you that you prefrer so much inconvenience over not doing it at all?Edited by ESO_player123 on August 14, 2026 12:07AM18 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »I would put to you that reporting, and the banning of players for bagging is childish. Its not good for ESO in any way to remove players for something so meaningless
It's a reaction some people have to childish/toxic/senseless behavior.
I'm still curious what the need/addiction to rubbing your pixelated *** on someone stems from?
Yeah, its a childish reaction some have over childish behavior.
Its not rubbing anything on anyone. You're looking way too much into it. Its just crouching up and down.0 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭albertberku wrote: »Now i am checking my ignored list and if i am in online mode every time before i start tbagging. I am at the edge of a permaban, got multiple warnings and bans because of tbagging. And tbagging is the only offence that i got a warning for in ESO in 10 years.
There are some players that i really would love to put on ignored list since they hate whisper me at every possibility. But i just cant ignore people for prolonged time because if i were to tbag them they just record acting like they are trying to whisper me to stop and report me. Got most of my warnings and 72h ban because i was in Offline Mode while tbagging.
Thats just ridiculous. people are using the reports as a vessel for worse toxicity. These are the kind of people who would doxx and swat you if they had that info. We should not be enabling this kind of toxic behavior with the report system over something so pointless as crouching up and down in a video game. Thats just pathetic behaviour to hate someone that much because they beat you in a video game0 -
albertberku✭✭✭✭Tbagging > Gameplay. What is even point of PvP ing when you are not going to tbag the hell out of your opponent's corpse after the fight ends? I would rather get a permaban than stopping tbagging forever.
Which is more childish? Tbagging or getting so triggered by receiving tbags on your screen that you take time to report other players with the hope of landing them a ban so that they wont be able to play the game again? Which one sound more immature?
Like you can actually get permabanned for tbagging and that is maybe after just 3 or 4 offences. Crazy if you think about it.Edited by albertberku on August 14, 2026 12:24AM1 -
SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Being tbagged can make some players uncomfortable. Not tbagging another player does not have a single negative effect for the player that chooses not to do it. So why not just stop?PCNA9 -
Munkfist✭✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »
As stated already, I don't. You do you, but don't complain about the consequences when you choose to be a child.
You guys are really showing up for the pvp community here. Bravo!@Munkfist PC-NA
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XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭albertberku wrote: »Tbagging > Gameplay.
What is even point of PvP ing when you are not going to tbag the hell out of your opponent's corpse after the fight ends? I would rather get a permaban than stopping tbagging forever.
Which is more childish? Tbagging or getting so triggered by receiving tbags on your screen that you take time to report other players with the hope of landing them a ban so that they wont be able to play the game again? Which one sound more immature?
My thoughts exactly. These people act like we're immature but they are the ones over here wanting to completely ban anyone that they disagree with for winning in a video game0 -
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✭✭✭I honestly think people are just too sensitive these days. Something like crouching pixils makes people unreasonably upset IMO.
However, as someone not offended by this whatsoever given I'm used to PvP games, I did once whisper someone who T-Bagged me "Please do not T-Bag me. It's really offensive and I don't want to report you." It really set them off which I got a laugh out of.
No, I had no intentions of reporting for that but it was good for a chuckle. They were playing a DK and 2-shot me with whips so it's not like they accomplished anything to be proud of enough to T-Bag me so I don't feel bad about it.Edited by AScarlato on August 14, 2026 12:25AM3 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »
As stated already, I don't. You do you, but don't complain about the consequences when you choose to be a child.
You guys are really showing up for the pvp community here. Bravo!
Well, its not me who was banned but a guildie and this sparked me to start this thread in hopes that the new feedback driven Zos will just get rid of this rule altogether. They might not listen, or they may Idk, I just want to stop seeing destruction of people's accounts all because childish people complained to Zos because they thought what happens in game is somehow real - when in reality they just have anger issues and can't disassociate from reality and video game and want to do real world harm to that person. Thats what i want Zos to stop enabling, the real world harm0 -
Fenrir_Legacy✭✭✭Just a psa, you can get banned for emotes as well. I have a friend that can't be named per tos for forum posts that had this happen. He stood over their body and did the kiss this emote, 3 day ban.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭albertberku wrote: »Tbagging > Gameplay. What is even point of PvP ing when you are not going to tbag the hell out of your opponent's corpse after the fight ends? I would rather get a permaban than stopping tbagging forever.
For a moment I imagined a chess game ending and the winner jumping on the loser and shoving their crotch and/or rear into the loser's face. Sounds utterly brainless and ridiculous? It is. And in gaming it looks just as ridiculous to me, "normal" (=habitual) or not.
Just my 2 cents.
Edited by Syldras on August 14, 2026 12:31AM@Syldras | PC | EU
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Munkfist✭✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »Well, its not me who was banned but a guildie and this sparked me to start this thread in hopes that the new feedback driven Zos will just get rid of this rule altogether. They might not listen, or they may Idk, I just want to stop seeing destruction of people's accounts all because childish people complained to Zos because they thought what happens in game is somehow real - when in reality they just have anger issues and can't disassociate from reality and video game and want to do real world harm to that person. Thats what i want Zos to stop enabling, the real world harm
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I couldn't care less if someone gets banned for teabagging. If they get banned, they've already been warned, most likely several times.
FAFO is what they call it these days, I think?@Munkfist PC-NA
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✭✭✭albertberku wrote: »Tbagging > Gameplay. What is even point of PvP ing when you are not going to tbag the hell out of your opponent's corpse after the fight ends? I would rather get a permaban than stopping tbagging forever.
For a moment I imagined a chess game ending and the loser jumping on the winner and shoving their crotch and/or rear into the winner's face. Sounds utterly brainless and ridiculous? It is. And in gaming it looks just as ridiculous to me, "normal" (=habitual) or not.
Just my 2 cents.
It's a video game and not a real-life action.0 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭I honestly think people are just too sensitive these days. Something like crouching pixils makes people unreasonably upset IMO.
However, as someone not offended by this whatsoever given I'm used to PvP games, I did once whisper someone who T-Bagged me "Please do not T-Bag me. It's really offensive and I don't want to report you." It really set them off which I got a laugh out of.
No, I had no intentions of reporting for that but it was good for a chuckle. They were playing a DK and 2-shot me with whips so it's not like they accomplished anything to be proud of enough to T-Bag me so I don't feel bad about it.
yeah, its really funny cause now its a weapon both sides wield but a weapon we shouldn't have. I have done that before with no intention of reporting just to spook them. I think its so bad though to have as a rule though.1 -
Luneca✭✭✭✭✭I never tbag anyone because there's nothing left of them after they get hit by my siege.4
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✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »I honestly think people are just too sensitive these days. Something like crouching pixils makes people unreasonably upset IMO.
However, as someone not offended by this whatsoever given I'm used to PvP games, I did once whisper someone who T-Bagged me "Please do not T-Bag me. It's really offensive and I don't want to report you." It really set them off which I got a laugh out of.
No, I had no intentions of reporting for that but it was good for a chuckle. They were playing a DK and 2-shot me with whips so it's not like they accomplished anything to be proud of enough to T-Bag me so I don't feel bad about it.
yeah, its really funny cause now its a weapon both sides wield but a weapon we shouldn't have. I have done that before with no intention of reporting just to spook them. I think its so bad though to have as a rule though.
It's just sad that people can be that fragile. Knowing a lot of older people play ESO, imaginging people i their 50's and older rushing to the report screen over things like this just makes me shake my head.
But whatever, these are the times.2 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭Fenrir_Legacy wrote: »Just a psa, you can get banned for emotes as well. I have a friend that can't be named per tos for forum posts that had this happen. He stood over their body and did the kiss this emote, 3 day ban.
Yeah idk why emotes are wrong too its just all so dumb and tiresome and not worth Zos's time to inject themselves into these player v player spats. Like just stick to working on the game unless someone is literally stalking you in game and just following constantly and creeping on you, leave people alone!1 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »I honestly think people are just too sensitive these days. Something like crouching pixils makes people unreasonably upset IMO.
However, as someone not offended by this whatsoever given I'm used to PvP games, I did once whisper someone who T-Bagged me "Please do not T-Bag me. It's really offensive and I don't want to report you." It really set them off which I got a laugh out of.
No, I had no intentions of reporting for that but it was good for a chuckle. They were playing a DK and 2-shot me with whips so it's not like they accomplished anything to be proud of enough to T-Bag me so I don't feel bad about it.
yeah, its really funny cause now its a weapon both sides wield but a weapon we shouldn't have. I have done that before with no intention of reporting just to spook them. I think its so bad though to have as a rule though.
It's just sad that people can be that fragile. Knowing a lot of older people play ESO, imaginging people i their 50's and older rushing to the report screen over things like this just makes me shake my head.
But whatever, these are the times.
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SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I find it more sad that such an immature action is so prevalent in the first place.PCNA12 -
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✭✭✭✭Coming from someone who used to lay down the bag, I was being toxic. Banning of t-bagging will weed out the bad apples. The game has a better outlet for people who want to talk smack anyhow, it's called Tales of Tribute.Rest in Peace:
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Syldras✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's a video game and not a real-life action.
I didn't claim it to be. I said that to me, personally, that behavior feels useless and stupid, no matter where it happens. I mean: What does it signify? Why is there a need for it? I can't think of any context where it suddenly starts to make sense.
You know, I don't usually PvP in ESO. I did once and the guy who defeated me saluted afterwards. It made me think "cool honorable guy". Teabagging? Makes me think "clown". It's everyone's own decision of course what impression they want to leave.@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlais, Altmer Ayleid vampire
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JavaRen✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hypothetical: a player uses a derogatory slur in chat with zero ill intent, none at all. After being warned and continuing to do so they receive a ban (probably temporary). How do you feel about this? If you have a different answer for this than for t-bagging, why the difference?4 -
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✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »I find it more sad that such an immature action is so prevalent in the first place.
Gaming culture used to be different. People (women too I played with) used to get online, say stupid stuff to each other, T-Bag, and no one was emotionally scarred by it. We know it was stupid but it was fun.
Now we have essays about how t-bagging is the same thing as actual RL violence and people can't really handle joking around in PVP in this way anymore.4 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭albertberku wrote: »Tbagging > Gameplay. What is even point of PvP ing when you are not going to tbag the hell out of your opponent's corpse after the fight ends? I would rather get a permaban than stopping tbagging forever.
For a moment I imagined a chess game ending and the winner jumping on the loser and shoving their crotch and/or rear into the loser's face. Sounds utterly brainless and ridiculous? It is. And in gaming it looks just as ridiculous to me, "normal" (=habitual) or not.
Just my 2 cents.
except thats not whats happening at all. This is a false analogy. Its like someone winning a chess game and dancing their queen over the dead king or something. When someone kills you in pvp and croutches/emotes on you they are not driving to your house and sitting on you. Be more honest, please1 -
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✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »I find it more sad that such an immature action is so prevalent in the first place.
Sometimes being immature can be fun. We are playing video games, afterall, not sitting in a board room.
Not anymore, I guess.3
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