Opulent ordeal behaviors +Playstation North America

mdb800 · June 13

I wanted to inquire if this is a code of conduct violation?:

I've been running into opulent ordeal groups where there's toxic players who be little and comment how " How dumb other players are" right in front of them. I've also found myself kicked from a group that was doing quite well because the the group leader was so unhinged and frustrated with the trial. Failing that he accused me of queuing as a fake healer when I never even queued up as a healer and I never even attempted to perform as one and he got other players to pile on at me. Tell me how annoying, annoying and awful. I am for doing that when I didn't do it.

The group didn't start out this way. It failed a couple of times because of some glitches that happened like the light ball not being where the daedric marker is issues going on on the purple side or with the red side? The debuff from the spider web not going away after the spider dies so people can't use the grappling hut stuff like that... For the PlayStation, it's really RNG if things all go smoothly. No matter how down pat, everyone has the mechanics, just one hiccup with lag at a critical time can just throw the whole thing off.

I get it. It's frustrating but to blame other people. I don't think these type of people should be playing elder scrolls online. They really ruin it for others and especially having to go through so much just to get to the trial, if you have a temper or are perturbed by these problems to the point to where you cannot accurately point out who is actually doing what you shouldn't be crowned and you shouldn't be playing. That's just my opinion

But my feedback to the devs is: the night market is too complicated. It just simply is it's not that people are dumb or lazy or don't care. It's just that there's too many moving parts to it. Where technology are just bad luck can go wrong so very often and that's what's contributing to it's difficulty. Not so much the essence of the game itself.
You got 12 players divided up. Going to three certain sections delivering a ball in a circular pattern, all with different mechanics mechanics that utilize relics that suffer from lag and net code, errors and markers that are not always accurate. And you got to successfully drop that ball three times in its location. So the odds of one of those 12 players experiencing a technical issue within those rotations is just simply too high.
Not only do you have to know the mechanics you also have to have really good luck and I don't think that that's what elder scrolls is based on

code65536 · June 13

I've cleared the trial 16 times since the Night Market opened and the only glitch that I've seen is the ball disappearing if the person carrying it has the auto-rez buff and dies. But that glitch is a one-time thing, since after dying, the auto-rez buff is removed, and if the group wipes, then nobody will have that buff.

I have, however, on a number of occasions seen people complain about what appears to them to be a glitch but is actually just a misunderstanding of the mechanics.

For example, "The debuff from the spider web not going away after the spider dies so people can't use the grappling" sounds like a misunderstanding to me. Once someone has used the traversal mechanism for any of the three sides, they are locked to that mechanism until the entire encounter ends (i.e., either until you clear the trial or until the group wipes). So not being able to use the grapple is normal and is not something that gets cleared away when something dies.

Gabriel_H · June 13

OO is probably the least RNG trial ZOS have ever done. There are so many redundancies layered in.

A group of 3 x 4-man (which is what the trial is, rather than a 12-man) that knows the mechs can do the entire pass the parcel phase with over 1m 30s to spare.

The having to stack in 2 circles phase on the actual boss fight can be accomplished with just 1 player per circle.

The number of disruptive attacks that can make rezzing nigh impossible don't exist.

The pass the parcel phase can be done with just 1 DD (from a damage/survivability stand-point). And you only need 3 different players to do all 3 phase out of the 4 available.

katanagirl1 · June 13

This trial has some complicated mechanics but is supposed to be more accessible to those who don’t have high dps because of that. I disagree with that somewhat with the caveat that you need good healers and tanks for the three bosses or lower dps will cause a wipe. You do need good coordination to get past the first part with carrying the orbs.

You posts makes me think you might have some issues with desync and possibly enemies not spawning in immediately, you said you were on PS, are you on a PS4 by chance? Trials are hard to do on the older console. Apologies if this is not the case.