In another game we used to bind a suicide key so that the attacker can't claim kills.

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

Chase0351 wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaxLBeJugj4&pp=ygUaQW5pbWVib29weiBwdWxlIGdhbmtlciB1NTA%3D

181k+ dps. Why is this in the game and how are players supposed to counter this?

That basically goes against the rock, paper, scissors model of the game. Every archetype has a counter in PvP. If 181k dps pulse gankers counter resistance stacking builds then there must be a counter against them as well and if not there should be. People complain about the tank metas but that was only a reaction to an existing issue: mitigating damage long enough to stay in the fight in order to secure kills, especially when outnumbered. And tanky dps players have always been able to be countered by zergs. So what practical problem does someone running around with one hundred and eighty one thousand damage per second solve and how do they add balance and value to the existing combat system? I would argue they add none and actually create further imbalance.

I can't believe people still fall for these dummy dps vids. This build will only work against other gankers and newbies with low resistances or health. Sure, it can help down players if they are hiding in the back of the zerg or on top of walls. To counter this playstyle, pop some see invis pots and use siege to hit all walls where gankers stand. If you are getting ganked traveling alone or standing out in the open alone, that's your fault lol

Bottom line, until someone can show a 12-man ganker group taking keeps over zergs and capturing scrolls, this isn't going a bigger deal than the abundance of DKs running around.

I'm sorry, but I'm a cranky old GenXer. Can someone give me the pertinent information in text form instead of a video?

Chase0351 wrote: »

That basically goes against the rock, paper, scissors model of the game. Every archetype has a counter in PvP. If 181k dps pulse gankers counter resistance stacking builds then there must be a counter against them as well and if not there should be. People complain about the tank metas but that was only a reaction to an existing issue: mitigating damage long enough to stay in the fight in order to secure kills, especially when outnumbered. And tanky dps players have always been able to be countered by zergs. So what practical problem does someone running around with one hundred and eighty one thousand damage per second solve and how do they add balance and value to the existing combat system? I would argue they add none and actually create further imbalance.

To be fair, I was mostly joking. But the fact is that these builds are difficult to counter if you don’t know what you’re doing. Damage mitigation is the key. Survive the first barrage and you can kill these builds pretty easily. As someone else pointed out, it’s no different from the bow gankers of two years ago. Hell, pulse ganking was a thing before the new mythic and subclassing, back when ganking was the NB’s specialty. It wasn’t a problem then and it’s not a problem now.

MasterSpatula wrote: »

I'm sorry, but I'm a cranky old GenXer. Can someone give me the pertinent information in text form instead of a video?

Right on😎 You are not alone Spatula.

Ok so I need to start using Pulse Ganker Build. Got it. Thanks for pointing this out.

BradTheNord wrote: »

My brother they rocking like 20k health if you are having a problem killing someone with 20k health it’s your build that needs revising.

You forgot to mention the part where that 20k hp guy is doing twice his health in damage to you from 40 meters away in stealth

Kelenan7368 wrote: »

It isn't no different than bow gankers. The build is squishy and dies easily, but yes if your in their sights you most likely will die.
But you can very successfully build to withstand it with a tankier build. I have ran across many players that are immune to the 1 hit of the build.

Everyone is just upset they are getting 1 or 2 hit with a staff instead of a bow.

If you all get the new mythic nerfed everyone will just go back to bow ganking!

IMO it's just something else to complain about that does not need to be complained about!

Let everyone have their fun with it until they get tired of being wiped out by tanky PVP'ers

But if I can't run around a tower without any real threat of dying, the game is broken...!

When isn't pvp unbalanced and "broken"? Part of the reason I don't take it seriously.

I had a vamp some how do 30k+ damage in one second on live.