Fort Dawnguard as a Group Dungeon

SjornParadox52 · May 16

After getting back into skyrim (and enjoying it once more after years lol) i've been gathering much knowledge i can about the dawnguard and its inhabitants in the 2nd era. They had a knack for using blessed equipment imbued with Heliomancy and other utilities, what's more interesting is that the fort was built as a prison and was part of the rift at the time. The jarls son was a vampire at the time and was locked up within, some say other dawnguard members became vampires themselves, desiring power. Eventually remaining members of the order had to put him down, and the jarl exiled the dawnguard for this, charged with treachery. Quite the story but something like this would be perfect for a new group dungeon, a dawnguard motif and new sets that use a combination of heliomancy and vampiric power (the monster set being the vampiric part). I looked around to see exactly what year in the 2nd era these events took place, but sadly i haven't found a clue.

LunaFlora · May 16

the Fighters Guild ability Silver Bolts is related to the Dawnguard.
so it at least exists.

SjornParadox52 · May 16

LunaFlora wrote: »

the Fighters Guild ability Silver Bolts is related to the Dawnguard.
so it at least exists.

True, but that's just 1 thing that mentions them. Plus silver bolts as a damaging ability is kinda weak from my time testing it.

SjornParadox52 · May 16

Correction, an ability and a morph from the templar references the dawnguard too. Sun fire and vampire's bane.

emilyhyoyeon · May 16

This would be cool. Especially if all/most of the dungeon is inside the fort. One of my favorite parts about Moonhunter Keep is the vibe of traversing through the huge manor. I like houses/buildings like that as dungeon environment settings.

SjornParadox52 · May 16

Makes me wonder how a dawnguard motif would look like design wise.

The_Drop_Bear · May 16

As others have mentioned the group exists prior to ESO as seen by the skills that mention them.

Skyrim tells us they were founded in the second era, to imprison/protect the Jarl of Riftens son but ended up having to kill him and they were banished. It also tells us they turned themselves into vampire for more power and hunted over the Rift till someone ended them.

The Jarl of Riften is suspiciously abscent in ESO, we know his name and abit about actions he has done. But nothing really personal or why hes not in the game (there is no mention of him being missing or him being away, there is simply no sign of him).

So maybe they could tie it together with a Dungeon, the Dawnguard have turned themselves into vampires and a group loyal to the original mission are loosing and needs our help to stop them. In the course of the mission the Jarls son is killed and the vampire dawnguard are wiped out. But the Jarl then banishes the few surviving members.

SjornParadox52 · May 16

The_Drop_Bear wrote: »

As others have mentioned the group exists prior to ESO as seen by the skills that mention them.

Skyrim tells us they were founded in the second era, to imprison/protect the Jarl of Riftens son but ended up having to kill him and they were banished. It also tells us they turned themselves into vampire for more power and hunted over the Rift till someone ended them.

The Jarl of Riften is suspiciously abscent in ESO, we know his name and abit about actions he has done. But nothing really personal or why hes not in the game (there is no mention of him being missing or him being away, there is simply no sign of him).

So maybe they could tie it together with a Dungeon, the Dawnguard have turned themselves into vampires and a group loyal to the original mission are loosing and needs our help to stop them. In the course of the mission the Jarls son is killed and the vampire dawnguard are wiped out. But the Jarl then banishes the few surviving members.

Huh, very interesting. So riftens jarl is not even in eso at all? Never noticed that, hell I've been on eso for 8 years.

ESO_Nightingale · May 16

I made a concept for this dungeon a long time ago, would be cool to see it

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 17

As a Vampire main i would rather not side with the Dawnguard, I would rather end them myself.

Erickson9610 · May 17

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As a Vampire main i would rather not side with the Dawnguard, I would rather end them myself.

If we have to side with the Silver Dawn in Moon Hunter Keep, we have to side with the Dawnguard in this dungeon. I wish TES in general let us side with the villains, but unfortunately we're always railroaded into playing the hero.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 17

Erickson9610 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As a Vampire main i would rather not side with the Dawnguard, I would rather end them myself.

If we have to side with the Silver Dawn in Moon Hunter Keep, we have to side with the Dawnguard in this dungeon. I wish TES in general let us side with the villains, but unfortunately we're always railroaded into playing the hero.

Then I would rather no such dungeon exist.

SjornParadox52 · May 17

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

I made a concept for this dungeon a long time ago, would be cool to see it

Indeed!

Erickson9610 · May 17

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As a Vampire main i would rather not side with the Dawnguard, I would rather end them myself.

If we have to side with the Silver Dawn in Moon Hunter Keep, we have to side with the Dawnguard in this dungeon. I wish TES in general let us side with the villains, but unfortunately we're always railroaded into playing the hero.

Then I would rather no such dungeon exist.

To be fair, Castle Thorn already exists. Our whole objective in that dungeon is to hunt down a vampire. Kyne's Aegis similarly has us slaying a vampire who is the final boss of that trial.

SjornParadox52 · May 18

If fort dawnguard were to be a group dungeon all the enemies in it would just be fallen dawnguard, basic vampires, no special powers. Mainly using the gear and abilities from their order for malicious intent, select number would even have access to heliomancy.

You might think a vampire using heliomancy would kill it, but it would dark heliomancy, referencing the bloodcurse prophecy of Auri-El's Bow.

SjornParadox52 · May 20

How would a Dawnguard motif look like in eso? This is the ancient dawnguard i'm talking about here after all. Any ideas?