Night Market: Getting started and basics

code65536 · April 30

BretonMage wrote: »

Sorry if there's an obvious answer to this, but is there any difference to completing the "Blood in the Sands" quests with 25, 50 or 75 enemies? I assume rewards are different? What about favours?

Unfortunately, I have not tested this. Since this quest is not from your faction leader, it does not "conflict" with any of the 5 faction leader quests. So I have this quest in my journal as I share and do the other 5 quests, and with the sheer number of enemies in NM, I reach the maximum for this quest, long before I'm done with the other 5 quests.

Varana · April 30

Does anyone have a guide to the minigames and races? For most of them, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do, and they insist on coming up in the dailies.

code65536 · April 30

Varana wrote: »

Does anyone have a guide to the minigames and races? For most of them, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do, and they insist on coming up in the dailies.

Oddities

Parch: boulder game... boulders come out of the black holes in the walls, and you need to direct just one one boulder into the glowing hole in the wall, and you do this by raising or lowering bumpers, which are controlled by pressure plates that you can stomp on... when you stomp on a green plate, for example, it will raise or lower all of the green bumpers (also, boulders rolling over a plate will activate it too)

Skittering (easiest one): spider invasion... spiders come down a slanted board, and you need to stomp on the pressure plates next to each flame thrower to attack the spiders... spider gets too close to a flame thrower, they'll spit webs at it until they disable it, and if you activate a flame thrower too much, it will overheat

Sorrow: use the pressure plates to change the angles of reflecting stones, with the goal being to direct at least two light beams to the brazier at the center top

Races

Parch: follow quest marker to a door, and enter... you'll see an obstacle course that you need to complete without being hit by a laser beam or by a roaming fire... beams that are low you avoid by jumping over, and beams that are higher you avoid by crouching under, and roaming fire you avoid by just moving out of its way (possible to cheese lasers using sorc streak)

Skittering (easiest one): there is a brazier near the entrance to skittering: synergize it to grab a fire, run to a nest (they will appear highlighted when you have the fire), synergize at the nest to destroy it, and then return to the brazier to pick up a new fire... must destroy all 3 nests within 30s (if helps if the enemies between you and the nests are cleared... or if you have cloak)

Sorrow: not far from the entrance of sorrow is a ball of void energy that you interact with (or synergize? I don't remember) to start the race, at which point you have limited time to interact with all the other voids... I've done this one only once, so I don't remember the exact details of how many voids there are or how long you have

Razmirra · April 30

This is super helpful, thank you!

Blencathra · April 30

Does each person have to get the relic and keys to join a group heading into a gilded boss four-man instance or the trial?
Thanks.

code65536 · April 30

Blencathra wrote: »

Does each person have to get the relic and keys to join a group heading into a gilded boss four-man instance or the trial?

Yes, everyone must have the relics and keys in order to enter.

Also, the only way to enter a Gilded instance or Opulent is to walk in the front door, so you cannot port to someone else who is inside.

Necrotech_Master · April 30

AJTC5000 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

one thing im really confused about is where do you get windglass to get through the sand walls in the parch district

there is 0 explanation, hints, or anything on what to do about those

Windglass is one of the three relics. Being able to bypass those sand walls is the reward for completing the relic for that district.

that would have been helpful to know earlier on, but there was no indication thats where it was from

when interacting with the sandwall it just gives an error message saying "you need windglass to get through this" without any context

none of the quest dialog up to this point indicated that would be needed either, and there are no friendly npcs or lorebooks nearby to give any hints on this

i found the parch to be the most annoying zone because of the sandwalls, there were several bosses that it was unclear how to even reach them because of the sandwalls, which makes needing to kill them first to get the windglass in the first place makes it more frustrating

the other 2 districts i found fine, they had side areas for the relics but not actively blocking any of the boss encounters

There is always at least one open route to every boss in the Parch at any given time, the sand walls rotate periodically. I believe the zone handler (the little Ska'afin dude) at one of the Oases also gives some information about needing to acquire the Windglass, the splinters required and where they drop from.

nice to know, but it would be infinitely easier if it marked on the map where the sand walls were so you knew where you could go (they already have the ability to dynamically mark that stuff on the map a la cyro milegates)

i did see that some people were able to cheese the walls with gap closers (saw one case where someone did stampede at a mob on the other side of the wall)

Gingaroth · May 1

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

one thing im really confused about is where do you get windglass to get through the sand walls in the parch district

there is 0 explanation, hints, or anything on what to do about those

Windglass is one of the three relics. Being able to bypass those sand walls is the reward for completing the relic for that district.

that would have been helpful to know earlier on, but there was no indication thats where it was from

when interacting with the sandwall it just gives an error message saying "you need windglass to get through this" without any context

I did not get even that, just... nothing, and then I die. This would have been super helpfull to know.

SasserClubb · May 1

Thank you so much for the great guide. Have you found the scavenger quest in the parch? I spent hours looking and no luck

dcrush · May 1

Thanks for putting all this info in one place!

For the dungeons and trial, should they be done with a standard group of tank, healer and dds or should everyone bring their NM builds? I’ve been doing NM stuff in an IA setup for example which has lower DPS than what I would normally bring to a dungeon but much more survivability.

DestroyerPewnack · May 1

Thank you for this! Exactly what I was looking for.

code65536 · May 1

SasserClubb wrote: »

Thank you so much for the great guide. Have you found the scavenger quest in the parch? I spent hours looking and no luck

The locations where you pick up the quest starter for the district mini-quests are randomized. For example, I searched for and did every district mini-quest yesterday on my main character, and there was one quest in Sorrow (Blunt Steel) that I had just done on another character earlier, where I picked up the quest starter near the entrance of the district, but there was no quest starter there for my main character. After exploring the district, I eventually found it... on the other side of the district.

There were a number of other quests where the pickup for the quest starter was not where I had remembered it being.

The randomized spawn, coupled with the fact that the quest marker doesn't show up until you get pretty close, some of them took a while for me to find. Having the district's relic and slotting cloak helped.

L_Nici · May 1

6 Quests? But I can only take 2 on each char. Blood and Sand and the daily faction Quest, if handed in, there is no other until the next day.

code65536 · May 1

dcrush wrote: »

Thanks for putting all this info in one place!

For the dungeons and trial, should they be done with a standard group of tank, healer and dds or should everyone bring their NM builds? I’ve been doing NM stuff in an IA setup for example which has lower DPS than what I would normally bring to a dungeon but much more survivability.

You definitely want tanks for the Gilded and Opulent. For Gilded, you should be fine with 1T and either 1H 2DD or 3DD. For Opulent, a standard trial comp of 2T 2H 8DD will work. There are three bosses in Opulent, so we originally ran with 3 tanks on PTS, but it's perfectly doable with 2 tanks. Opulent is more about teamwork and coordination than damage and healing numbers, so there's flexibility in the group comp.

code65536 · May 1

L_Nici wrote: »

6 Quests? But I can only take 2 on each char. Blood and Sand and the daily faction Quest, if handed in, there is no other until the next day.

Similar to overland world boss and delve dailies, doing extra quests per day requires getting shares from other players.

emilyhyoyeon · May 1

code65536 wrote: »

SasserClubb wrote: »

Thank you so much for the great guide. Have you found the scavenger quest in the parch? I spent hours looking and no luck

The locations where you pick up the quest starter for the district mini-quests are randomized. For example, I searched for and did every district mini-quest yesterday on my main character, and there was one quest in Sorrow (Blunt Steel) that I had just done on another character earlier, where I picked up the quest starter near the entrance of the district, but there was no quest starter there for my main character. After exploring the district, I eventually found it... on the other side of the district.

There were a number of other quests where the pickup for the quest starter was not where I had remembered it being.

The randomized spawn, coupled with the fact that the quest marker doesn't show up until you get pretty close, some of them took a while for me to find. Having the district's relic and slotting cloak helped.

This is helpful thanks. I also struggled to find the same Parch quest since the NM dropped. I was running around for like 2hr total probably trying to find it.

BetweenMidgets · May 1

I don't understand why, but so far my friends and I have NOT been able to share quests with each other. Not even the ones in the districts that they picked up a few packs back that I didn't see & they still weren't able to share it to me.

It is really frustrating to have all this group content and quest sharing is spotty at best. I only know quest sharing is possible because people in here have said it is. My experience is there is NOT quest sharing.

dcrush · May 1

code65536 wrote: »

dcrush wrote: »

Thanks for putting all this info in one place!

For the dungeons and trial, should they be done with a standard group of tank, healer and dds or should everyone bring their NM builds? I’ve been doing NM stuff in an IA setup for example which has lower DPS than what I would normally bring to a dungeon but much more survivability.

You definitely want tanks for the Gilded and Opulent. For Gilded, you should be fine with 1T and either 1H 2DD or 3DD. For Opulent, a standard trial comp of 2T 2H 8DD will work. There are three bosses in Opulent, so we originally ran with 3 tanks on PTS, but it's perfectly doable with 2 tanks. Opulent is more about teamwork and coordination than damage and healing numbers, so there's flexibility in the group comp.

Thanks!

code65536 · May 1

BetweenMidgets wrote: »

I don't understand why, but so far my friends and I have NOT been able to share quests with each other. Not even the ones in the districts that they picked up a few packs back that I didn't see & they still weren't able to share it to me.

It is really frustrating to have all this group content and quest sharing is spotty at best. I only know quest sharing is possible because people in here have said it is. My experience is there is NOT quest sharing.

The repeatable mini-quests that are found in the districts are not shareable. Only the repeatable quests that you pick up from outside the districts are shareable. The non-shareable district quests don't drop anything good anyway (all the good rewards are from the ones you get outside of the districts), so I wouldn't worry too much about them.

Necrotech_Master · May 1

code65536 wrote: »

BetweenMidgets wrote: »

I don't understand why, but so far my friends and I have NOT been able to share quests with each other. Not even the ones in the districts that they picked up a few packs back that I didn't see & they still weren't able to share it to me.

It is really frustrating to have all this group content and quest sharing is spotty at best. I only know quest sharing is possible because people in here have said it is. My experience is there is NOT quest sharing.

The repeatable mini-quests that are found in the districts are not shareable. Only the repeatable quests that you pick up from outside the districts are shareable. The non-shareable district quests don't drop anything good anyway (all the good rewards are from the ones you get outside of the districts), so I wouldn't worry too much about them.

the only reason to bother with the mini quests from the districts is they are required for achievements

there is at least one achievement for completing all of the mini quests at least once

code65536 · May 1

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

BetweenMidgets wrote: »

I don't understand why, but so far my friends and I have NOT been able to share quests with each other. Not even the ones in the districts that they picked up a few packs back that I didn't see & they still weren't able to share it to me.

It is really frustrating to have all this group content and quest sharing is spotty at best. I only know quest sharing is possible because people in here have said it is. My experience is there is NOT quest sharing.

The repeatable mini-quests that are found in the districts are not shareable. Only the repeatable quests that you pick up from outside the districts are shareable. The non-shareable district quests don't drop anything good anyway (all the good rewards are from the ones you get outside of the districts), so I wouldn't worry too much about them.

the only reason to bother with the mini quests from the districts is they are required for achievements

there is at least one achievement for completing all of the mini quests at least once

Yea, I took some time and did all of them on my main character, and don't think I'll bother with doing them again because the rewards are so... underwhelming.

(Because of how hard it is so see some of those quest objectives, I personally found it easier to do them in a separate session, when I have cloak equipped and am just cloaking past everything. Allows me to quickly examine all the different nooks and crannies to find those things.)

BetweenMidgets · May 2

Sorry to bring this up again, but quest sharing is definitely NOT working.

I have a friend with Argent Eradication, Brazen Eradication, and Representing the Faction. They are unable to share ANY of those three with me. I have Keen Mind, and I cannot share it to him. We tried sharing quests in the Starlit Plaza, in the Parch, and in Vvardenfel.

I don't know what the limitations are on quest sharing that ZoS has implemented, but having a zone built around groups and having THIS much trouble sharing quests (or even having any quests that aren't sharable) is beyond my comprehension. What poor design.

UPDATE: While still in a group with the friend with 3 faction quests, another of our friends logged on and joined the group for testing.. Friend with 3 quests was able to share 2 of their 3 to ANOTHER friend. Talk about ABSOLUTELY ENRAGING (at ZoS).

code65536 · May 2

BetweenMidgets wrote: »

Sorry to bring this up again, but quest sharing is definitely NOT working.

I have a friend with Argent Eradication, Brazen Eradication, and Representing the Faction. They are unable to share ANY of those three with me. I have Keen Mind, and I cannot share it to him. We tried sharing quests in the Starlit Plaza, in the Parch, and in Vvardenfel.

I don't know what the limitations are on quest sharing that ZoS has implemented, but having a zone built around groups and having THIS much trouble sharing quests (or even having any quests that aren't sharable) is beyond my comprehension. What poor design.

I ran into something similar yesterday, where I was unable to share any quest with one of my alt accounts. I don't recall exactly what I did, since at that point I was just trying everything, but I was eventually able to fix it by abandoning every Night Market quest on the character who could not receive shares. And then logging off and back in, picking up a new faction leader quest and then abandoning that, and then it was fixed and sharing worked fine. Not sure which of those steps were actually necessary (since I didn't try sharing again until after I did all that). No idea what caused it to happen, no idea why that fixed it, and I haven't seen that happen with any of my other alt accounts.

BetweenMidgets · May 2

code65536 wrote: »

I ran into something similar yesterday, where I was unable to share any quest with one of my alt accounts. I don't recall exactly what I did, since at that point I was just trying everything, but I was eventually able to fix it by abandoning every Night Market quest on the character who could not receive shares. And then logging off and back in, picking up a new faction leader quest and then abandoning that, and then it was fixed and sharing worked fine. Not sure which of those steps were actually necessary (since I didn't try sharing again until after I did all that). No idea what caused it to happen, no idea why that fixed it, and I haven't seen that happen with any of my other alt accounts.

Thanks for this advice. I went through your process, and my friend was willing to hang out and just share quests after each step. So after dropping all my Night Market quests and picking up a new faction quest (didn't abandon) I was able to get ONE of the quest shares from my friend.
I dropped all my quests again, and had my friend reshare, and I was able to get all 3.

So
Freaking
Frustrating

BetweenMidgets · May 2

Joined a group of folks sharing quests, and I wasn't able to get any of the ones I lacked from before. So it looks like I can only get these 3 today.

Enraging.

tomfant · May 2

Is there another way than F5 to access the key collection progress page? I assigned F5 to something else and can't find this page in the key bind settings either to assign another key.

Also, is there an option to remove the annoying faction favour counter from the hud? There is no value in this and it overlays my minimap.

allochthons · May 2

This has been making the rounds of my discords. I'm sorry I can't credit it. If anyone knows the creator, please let me know!

code65536 · May 2

tomfant wrote: »

Is there another way than F5 to access the key collection progress page? I assigned F5 to something else and can't find this page in the key bind settings either to assign another key.

General > User Interface > Activity HUD Action

tomfant wrote: »

Also, is there an option to remove the annoying faction favour counter from the hud? There is no value in this and it overlays my minimap.

There is no option for this in the base game. It is possible for an addon to hide it, but I am not personally aware of any that have been made to do this. While I agree that the scoreboard is a useless waste of space (there's no scoreboard in your HUD in Cyrodiil, and that's a place where people actually have a reason to care about score), it does not bother me enough for me to make an addon to hide it. (Edit: I made an addon to convert the score tracker to a skirmish status tracker, and the addon has the option to also just hide it entirely.)

But I would suggest writing that in the feedback thread. The uselessness of the scoreboard in the HUD was something that I gave feedback about during PTS, but I don't remember seeing anyone else making noise about it.

rhythmsuji · May 3

@code65536
Having trouble getting the last Coffer Egg Splinter from opening Night Market Reward Coffers in order to unlock my grapple glove. And I don't see any quests, and every quest I did beside one gave me blue gear coffers.

Do I have to wait till tomorrow to get another gold coffer? Are they one a day?

Thanks

dcrush · May 3

rhythmsuji wrote: »

@code65536
Having trouble getting the last Coffer Egg Splinter from opening Night Market Reward Coffers in order to unlock my grapple glove. And I don't see any quests, and every quest I did beside one gave me blue gear coffers.

Do I have to wait till tomorrow to get another gold coffer? Are they one a day?

Thanks

They only drop from the quests you get from your faction leader and from the bloodthirsty Khajiit who wants you to kill 25/50/75 enemies. The district coffers with overland gear do not drop the splinters as far as I know.