I definitely agree that they seem to be on the high side, but I don’t know what other ways of earning trade bars there will be in the future.

I missed out on the free skill styles pack and I’m happy to see it’s in the GCB… but 10500 trade bars to get all of them is kind of crazy, especially because it’s the same currency as event collectibles. I can understand the Grand Gallery of Tamriel being expensive because it was the end reward for a golden pursuit but the skill styles were just “log in and claim”.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

We already have to use some of the bars for the events. It doesn't feel like we'll be able to really get stuff at this rate.

We're supposedly able to get Trade Bars from the Tamriel Tomes as well as from events, so I hope ultimately a good balance has been struck. We can still spend the Trade Bars we get from events on the events, so maybe the idea is we can use the Trade Bars from the Tomes for the Bazaar? After all, the items in the Bazaar rotate every Season, and each Season has a new Tome.

People would buy everything and lose interest in participating in the Tamriel Tomes as well as events if the prices were too cheap.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

We already have to use some of the bars for the events. It doesn't feel like we'll be able to really get stuff at this rate.

We're supposedly able to get Trade Bars from the Tamriel Tomes as well as from events, so I hope ultimately a good balance has been struck. We can still spend the Trade Bars we get from events on the events, so maybe the idea is we can use the Trade Bars from the Tomes for the Bazaar? After all, the items in the Bazaar rotate every Season, and each Season has a new Tome.

People would buy everything and lose interest in participating in the Tamriel Tomes as well as events if the prices were too cheap.

There's too cheap and then there's not really workable. The events eat up most of the bars. There's a middle ground. Right now there's no point in even trying to get anything but the event stuff.

I think we should hold off judgement until we see how many Trade Bars we get in Season Zero. If the items in the Bazaar currently are supposed to be permanent, then they're long term goals that we reach from doing our Tamriel Tome objectives and participating in events.

I’m a little underwhelmed with the Bazaar so far. The prices are a part of that, the inventory is another. I would really prefer cheaper prices and more rewards pulled from the vast inventory of crown crates and timed deals. Right now, seems like consumables and anniversary collectibles. Hopefully season 0 brings some fun goodies.

freespirit wrote: »

Tamriel Tomes will have 9000 free Trade Bars and 1500 in the paid version.

So that gives a nice boost.

I believe there was also talk of some of the enemies in the Night Market dropping them too, I'm sure more sources may appear as well,

I tend to agree the prices do seem steep but will hold off on full on moaning until the new system is completely bedded in.

this

theres definitely going to be more ways to get bars than just events for sure

as someone who has been around basically since launch and participated in every event the game has had, im starting with about 70% of the items from the bazaar locked already lol

We have Jubilee coming in April. That should be another 4k+ trade bars right there too.

Destai wrote: »

I’m a little underwhelmed with the Bazaar so far. The prices are a part of that, the inventory is another. I would really prefer cheaper prices and more rewards pulled from the vast inventory of crown crates and timed deals. Right now, seems like consumables and anniversary collectibles. Hopefully season 0 brings some fun goodies.

Honestly I said this before and folks said i was wrong lol. The system was never meant to actually remove Crown Store FOMO, that was a pipe dream and this result shows it.
The Bazaar is meant for unique missed rewards like login freebees, old event stuff, 1st year Chapter events, whatever those were called. Basically stuff not directly bought, but were still limited time in some fashion.

Don’t forget as well that some events (Anniversary and New Life) have habitually been extremely generous with tickets, so much so that people were begging for more things to spend them on.

Jester’s (300 bars per day for 8 days) goes straight into Anniversary (300 per day for 14 days) on the 2nd, when we also get to see how to get a load from the Tomes too.

I have a feeling by this time next year, people are going to be saying that there’s not enough things to spend bars on.

AllenaNightWood wrote: »

i would agree the prices are way to high on some items that have no business being as expensive as they are

Yeah, it made me a bit uncomfortable that there were things I got for free that newer players will have to pay for. I guess it's good that they're being made available again, but some of them are pretty expensive for what they are. The equivalent of an entire event of trade bars for one costume seems a lot.

So we now only have to buy the pet pieces once, right? That should help with spending fewer trade bars compared to when using event tickets each event. Once I got the special morphing pieces done before I would go ahead and buy more pet pieces but I don’t have to do that anymore. That means I could buy some bazaar items. If I understand this correctly.

I got confused because I think the pet fragments listed at the Impresario say that I have not collected them if I already collected them and then morphed them. I think this needs to be corrected.

It’s all so confusing.

metheglyn wrote: »

I received one of the fragments for the mount in a jester's box today. If they keep adding some Impressario items to box drops, that will reduce the need for using trade bars on event items.

Those drops are only for the happy few, I'm afraid.

During the writhing wall event I opened about 70 boxes a day to get the Colharbour house, I did not get it.
Some people got it from one of their first boxes. 'Luck' is not evenly spread in this game.

Skinny cheeks made a point to say that these are previously earned items (most) that they're making available to everyone to earn. That they should be hard to achieve out of respect to the players that had to earn them. Although I see the wisdom, I'm still pretty weirded out by some of the pricing. The sword singers redoubt for what is 100ish event tickets seems a little high considering it's big but it's mainly an open area with a couple rooms and a really cool cave but it's still just a cave. The telvanni house is beautiful, but for what amounts to 90ish event tickets, it's a small workshop and a room with a staircase that leads basically to nowhere. I can't decide if it's fair priced or not. Some of the other stuff, skill styles and costumes etc seem priced right. The music box as well.

@tomofhyrule makes a fair point though. To those of us playing regularly, come next year, we'll probably see posts complaints of not enough things to buy. We know that we will be able to use tome points to get 9000 trade bars if you so choose, in the free tier of the tomes. 1500 more in the paid. So if we're looking at, 3 seasons this year, 30000 bars from tomes alone (if that's what you wanna spend time points on) plus you can earn some in game outside of events, we're probably in pretty good shape and Toms prediction comes to pass. Now, it's fair to assume that the free tier of the tome will be less generous over time. Give it the soft touch when launched, then move to the hard sell. We don't know that ESO will do this, hell they could have the best battle pass in mmo gaming for all we know.

The takeaway is that this is a new system that has some cool stuff and we've had zero ways to earn the currency for it. That's a bummer, cause we see stuff we want. Some of the stuff seems a bit overpriced for sure, hopefully they're open on some of this pricing but I doubt it. But we will likely be getting a decent amount of the currency this year to get much of what we want. Time will tell.

twisttop138 wrote: »

Skinny cheeks made a point to say that these are previously earned items (most) that they're making available to everyone to earn. That they should be hard to achieve out of respect to the players that had to earn them. Although I see the wisdom, I'm still pretty weirded out by some of the pricing. The sword singers redoubt for what is 100ish event tickets seems a little high considering it's big but it's mainly an open area with a couple rooms and a really cool cave but it's still just a cave. The telvanni house is beautiful, but for what amounts to 90ish event tickets, it's a small workshop and a room with a staircase that leads basically to nowhere. I can't decide if it's fair priced or not. Some of the other stuff, skill styles and costumes etc seem priced right. The music box as well.

That's the thing, though, I don't remember doing much to "earn" them. Of the ones I have, most were login rewards, and the bigger items were login rewards during the 10-year anniversary year (2024). Maybe a few were golden pursuit rewards. So I did very little to "earn" them, and yeah, it makes me feel a bit weird as well.

I think the ones that were login rewards should be cheaper, for sure. IIRC Sword Singers Redoubt was also a login reward? (According to UESP, it was a login reward on Day 3, so yeah).

coop500 wrote: »

Destai wrote: »

I’m a little underwhelmed with the Bazaar so far. The prices are a part of that, the inventory is another. I would really prefer cheaper prices and more rewards pulled from the vast inventory of crown crates and timed deals. Right now, seems like consumables and anniversary collectibles. Hopefully season 0 brings some fun goodies.

Honestly I said this before and folks said i was wrong lol. The system was never meant to actually remove Crown Store FOMO, that was a pipe dream and this result shows it.
The Bazaar is meant for unique missed rewards like login freebees, old event stuff, 1st year Chapter events, whatever those were called. Basically stuff not directly bought, but were still limited time in some fashion.

Maybe it was an unjustified hope on my part, but as a long term player, I already have most of the evergreen rewards. Now, I don't have every crown crate or apex mount or 13k house, despite having spent 1000s on this game already. It would've been amazing to have that loyalty rewarded in a new system.

Ultimately, I'm not surprised. When this system was announced, I was waiting for the other shoe to drop and we're starting to see the sole come down.

ganzaeso wrote: »

It would appear that that some are finding it acceptable to calculate the trade bars at maximum effort rather than considering those who want to take a break and may miss some days of play.

I personally am getting tired of having to play every day to get the maximum rewards from events. There needs to be a time to take breaks otherwise it is just more of the same FOMO with a different look.

So true. You've gotta do events if you want bars. So that means doing something daily that you may not want to do otherwise. Is the solution just granting the bars automatically during events? And just leaving the daily quests for other rewards? I dunno.

I'm fine doing one daily quest. Most of these events aren't very enjoyable to me anyways. But anything with an RNG tied to it, I won't do it. Sorry, they've shown me too many times how that pans out.

twisttop138 wrote: »

The takeaway is that this is a new system that has some cool stuff and we've had zero ways to earn the currency for it. That's a bummer, cause we see stuff we want. Some of the stuff seems a bit overpriced for sure, hopefully they're open on some of this pricing but I doubt it. But we will likely be getting a decent amount of the currency this year to get much of what we want. Time will tell.

I think they should've front-loaded people with some bars then. It's like crown crates - if you whet my appetite, I'll probably buy more. They didn't and the new system landed on a sour note. I just hope it matures well, better than the Seals system did, which always felt a little asymptotic.

Eliahnus wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

I received one of the fragments for the mount in a jester's box today. If they keep adding some Impressario items to box drops, that will reduce the need for using trade bars on event items.

Those drops are only for the happy few, I'm afraid.

During the writhing wall event I opened about 70 boxes a day to get the Colharbour house, I did not get it.
Some people got it from one of their first boxes. 'Luck' is not evenly spread in this game.

Oh, I know it's all chance. I didn't get the Coldharbour house either (but then I didn't want it, so there's that). I don't want any of these fragments this go round because I don't find any of the things interesting, so I thought it was kind of funny I got one fragment for a thing I'll never complete. However, rng and personal wishes aside, because these items are available outside of spending trade bars on, that might have gone into the overall trade bar cost calcuations, which was my main point.