I think that skill scrolls should be usable by everyone because the whole point of them should to be give you access to stuff you wouldn't normally have but in a much more limited capacity.

yes i think that would be helpful.

CaptainVenom wrote: »

You're in an Ultimate skill form already and you want even more power?

There's a reason werewolves don't have a place in vet trials or ball groups. Just because the transformation is sourced through an Ultimate doesn't mean the entire playstyle is powerful. The abilities are balanced to be 25% more powerful at 25% more cost; the power to cost ratio is the same as a human form build.

I'd happily accept Werewolf no longer being an Ultimate if that meant we could finally have an Ultimate to use while transformed. That probably won't be enough to give werewolves a place in competitive content — they lack the flexibility that the human form has — but it would help to bridge the power gap between transformed werewolves and the human form.

I really wanted to give a straightforward answer to this poll, but I'm torn.

If werewolves don't get the ability to use Skill Scrolls next patch, then we'll be at a disadvantage when we fight all the people who can use them. I'd rather the power gap between werewolves and everyone else not continue to widen. There's also no guarantee that the combat balance part of the Werewolf rework in Update 50 will actually buff werewolves.

But at least I now have zero interest in farming for these scrolls in general, so I'll get to skip the Night Market grind while everyone else suffers. It really didn't make sense to me for Werewolf to use non-Werewolf abilities, even if they can use potions that grant similar effects.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I think that skill scrolls should be usable by everyone because the whole point of them should to be give you access to stuff you wouldn't normally have but in a much more limited capacity.

This is a fantastic point. Skill Scrolls by design allow people to use skills they otherwise couldn't use. You could use Quick Cloak without dual wielding, for instance. By this logic, it doesn't make sense to exclude Werewolf.

I mean, werewolves can use items like potions to apply similar effects. They can equip item sets, too. From a gameplay mechanics standpoint, Skill Scrolls are not much different from potions and item sets — they apply some effect that may not always make sense in the lore, but they're there for gameplay reasons.

Radiate77 wrote: »

I would rather Werewolf itself get a more expanded kit with three skill lines and treated like an actual Class.

Ultimately, I want Werewolf to have its own identity. To make a comparison, allowing non-Werewolf skills in Werewolf form is akin to allowing Subclassing. Yes, it's optional, but we don't want to be suboptimal. Nobody would run Werewolf skills in Werewolf form if they could use non-Werewolf abilities instead.

While I don't necessarily think three skill lines for Werewolf is necessary or even enough (the human form has access to much more than just their Class skills) I do agree with the notion that Werewolf should have more skills and that it should be treated like a genuine Class. I always ask for Werewolf Grimoires because even just one more skill in the Werewolf skill line would give us so much more build diversity. 6 skills to choose from instead of 5 skills means we need to choose which 1 skill we're not going to slot on our bar!

Vampires can do anything that normal people can. Werewolves are a similar type of supernatural creature so shouldn't be disadvantaged. Werewolves are still intelligent creatures, just a bit hairier.