Elvenheart wrote: »

You mean you sometimes use one mythic, Oakensoul, and sometimes use the other mythic Mora’s Whispers instead?

Yes... That is what I meant. I am sorry, I wrote it out wrong. It was a little after midnight here at that time and I was fighting to stay awake. But I find myself using Mora's Whispers more often.

Thanks for catching that and keeping me straight.

Dark walker (pvp):

Shadow/storm calling/aedric spear

Acuity/wretched vitality/saint and seducer/bloodspawn

2h
Focused charge, biting jabs, refreshing path, mages wrath, javelin -- sweep

Bow
Streak, cloak, Hurricane, vigor, healing soul -- undo

Ok, go get your hot pockets & chocy milk, this one’s going to take a minute

Main build is a single-bar High Elf (non-pet) Mag-Sorc. … but wait, there’s more; the whole idea of the build was to explore whether or not, in the current gameplay environment, if a build like this could be competitive in not only PvE .. but PvP.

This was a lot harder than it sounds. In a game where (in PvP anyway) meta builds are stamina based and carry heavy utility; it meant spending a lot of time to try and optimize the build.

Will I say this build is S-tier? No, not at all; we’re far from meta. .. but .. it’s respectable and even against hardcore veteran players in PvP it holds its own. In PvE it deals, again, upper respectable damage.

There are 2 versions of this build I swap between, the PvE & PvP but are only minor differences.

One Bar non-pet Mag Sorc:
Gear: 5 pieces Warrior Poet (all heavy), 5 pieces Beacon of Oblivion (all heavy), 1 pc Valkyn Skora (heavy), & Oakensoul Ring.

Vampire Stage 3: for the Undeath & Strike from Shadows passives

The gear is the backbone of my defense. With only one bar I didn’t want to have to slot extra recovery so in those clutch moments I have enough durability to not go down easy. Granted this was more of a PvP approach but carried over into PvE

Abilites: Shocking Soul (scribed), Luminous Shards IV, Haunting Curse IV, Streak IV, Mages Wrath IV, Shatter Soul IV.

I got rid of the Dark Magic Sorc line for the Aedric spear. The only ability I’d slot on this build from Dark Magic was Crystal Frags and I get similar base damage out of Shards (not counting the bonus damage Proc of Frags), but more importantly the sustain synergy is key. The passives in Aedric Spear are more useful for this build, Piercing Spear, Burning light & Balanced warrior all contribute more strongly here than the Dark Magic passives did.

Stats: 41k Magicka, 27.6K Health, 13.4k Stam.
Weapon & Spell Damage: 6034
Weapon & Spell Pen: 11,448
Crit rate: 23.4%
Phys & Spell Resist: 34357
Crit Resit: 1744

Yes; I know the resit is high for DPS, but remember, it was designed with PvP in mind also; where one doesn’t always have a healer handy. The Crit chance is on the lower side, IMO, but the build makes up for it in raw damage output:

Shocking Soul: 17,888 (primary spammable)
Luminous Shards: 11,033 + 956/sec
Haunting Curse: 18,996 + 18,996
Streak: 9,461 + stun
Mages Wrath: 5976 + 20,995 @ 20%
Soul Shatter: 98,052 + 15,196 (113,248 total).

For PvP there’s a few changes, a couple of abilities are swapped out; Usfelds is brought in as a self heal over Haunting Curse and Hardened Ward replaces Shards.

For gear, Beacon of Oblivion is too weak given the Battle Spirit Debuff so that is replaced with 2 pcs Plaguebreak + 1 PC Trainee + 2 PC Nibenay Bay. … now Nibenay is fantastic in PvP, especially with Subclassing, everyone running Rush of Agony or Templar Spear as well as any forced movement procs a crazy high damage shield; plus when the shield isn’t active it provides a static 5% damage reduction (which takes the place of Beacon of Oblivions 5% damage bump instead).

Single bar builds are tough to make versatile because you just don’t have the real estate to slot as much but the bar is still just as high for you to hit to be competitive. Subclassing nudged this build up a tad from where it was given the Aedric passives but it didn’t yield the major uplift many class pairings now have.

Here's a casual PvE damage dealer build utilizing both Subclassing and Scribing:
This setup uses Oakensoul, so the human form only gets one bar, but you can use Werewolf Transformation if you want to switch up your playstyle. I also use Macabre Vintage for the AoE burst and because it's visually appealing. Pillar of Nirn is the other 5-piece set, used for single target damage.

I slot Resolving Vigor as a self heal, Biting Jabs as the main AoE/ST spammable, Traveling Knife with Multi-Target, Warrior's Opportunity, and Vulnerability as an AoE debuff skill (pictured below), Mages' Wrath as an execute, and Detonating Siphon as another DoT and because I like having corpse abilities in the human form, and because it also buffs damage while slotted. In the human form, I generally debuff with Shattering Knife first, then spam Biting Jabs until the enemy is low enough to use Mages' Wrath. If there is a corpse nearby, I'll use Detonating Siphon, and if I need to heal, I'll use Resolving Vigor. Oakensoul takes care of the Major Savagery buff in the event that I can't find a corpse to use Detonating Siphon on.

In the Werewolf form, these three skill lines (Aedric Spear, Storm Calling, and Grave Lord) are some of the best as they have the most useful passives that carry over into form.

1. Aedric Spear gives you the Burning Light damage proc (dealing Magic Damage which Werewolf can't source with its abilities, giving a chance for the Overcharged status effect) and the Balanced Warrior passive, increasing WD/SD and Armor by 6%.
2. Storm Calling gives you Capacitor (increasing your recoveries by 141), Energized (increasing Physical and Shock Damage by 5%, affecting Howl of Agony), and Amplitude (increasing damage done against a target by up to 10% based on how high their health is).
3. Grave Lord is used because of the Rapid Rot passive, increasing Damage over Time by 10%, primarily affecting Werewolf Berserker's light attack bleed, Brutal Carnage, and Claws of Anguish.

As for the Werewolf skills, Werewolf Berserker is used for the light attack bleed and AoE heavy attacks, Brutal Pounce is used for the stacks of Brutal Carnage, Howl of Agony is the main single target spammable, Ferocious Roar is there in case I need to heavy attack quicker to restore resources or attack enemies with Berserker's AoE heavy attacks, Hircine's Rage is there as a damage buff and emergency heal, and Claws of Anguish is there as a general AoE DoT attack. I would love to have a Werewolf Scribing ability to swap Ferocious Roar out for.

This build is not the meta for PvE Werewolf. Notice how I'm not using Relequen's, after all. But it is a very fun build to play with. Honestly, I love that I've found a new build with Subclassing and Scribing that feels good to play in both the werewolf and human forms.

As always, I hope Werewolf gets their own Scribing ability soon, because I would love to change up my build again.

Anyone want to share there successful Infinite Archive builds?

Apollosipod wrote: »

ZOS, maybe we could be given the ability to include class abilities when in werewolf form? Maybe a max of two non-werewolf abilities? Imagine a werewolf with Noxious Breath or the poison claw from DK or a werewolf that spits Abyssal Flail like that horrifying non-combat bunny lol

No. I don't want to run Fatecarver.

Erickson9610 wrote: »

Apollosipod wrote: »

ZOS, maybe we could be given the ability to include class abilities when in werewolf form? Maybe a max of two non-werewolf abilities? Imagine a werewolf with Noxious Breath or the poison claw from DK or a werewolf that spits Abyssal Flail like that horrifying non-combat bunny lol

No. I don't want to run Fatecarver.

Then.....don't? Is Mora forcing you? Blink 800 times if you need help!

My Main - Storm Pirate

Skill Lines:
Storm (Of course)
Grave Lord (For shooting Skulls)
Assassination

Lightning Splash + Jerensi's Blade Storm creates a nice little hurricane!

In the works - Dwemer Artificer

Skill Lines:
Dawns Wrath (the skills have a nice high energy look to them)
Storm (For similar reasons)
TBD

Currently farming for armor sets that summon Dwemer constructs

One bar pvp bow build. Sets- Sheer venom and Scavnging demise with one piece monster set of your choice I use something with pen. Skill lines- Aedric spear - Assassination - Shadow. Skills- poison injection is the spammable from the bow skill line- Shadowy disguise from Shadow line - Binding javelin from Aedric spear line - Merciless resolve from Assassination. use vigour as heal and the Ultimate is the bow ulti Toxic barrage. How I play is use poison injection which will proc both sets then hit them with javelin at the right time and they wont be able to block or dodge the Scavenging demise them follow up with bow ulti or merciless resolve. As for race anything with stamina and damage works fine khajiit good to. Works well against the meta especially for a one bar also mundus is the lover penatration is a must on one bar pvp builds. Aaim for 30k stam and 17-20k mag 25-27k health when using sugar skulls. As for recovery food Thats up to you.

Swirlbeard wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Swirlbeard wrote: »

In the works - Dwemer Artificer

Skill Lines:
Dawns Wrath (the skills have a nice high energy look to them)
Storm (For similar reasons)
TBD

Currently farming for armor sets that summon Dwemer constructs

I just need ZOS to make an Artificer a legit class, with skill lines for summoning automata, setting traps and grenades, and tonal architecture as a support.

And then everyone who wants a Bard can just Subclass in the Tonal Magic line and it’s like a win-win-win-win for everyone.

Agreed with an Artificer class. My hope though, now with subclassing being a thing, is ZOS creates more theme dedicated, single subclass lines. Instead of having to create and balance a base class with 3 separate distinct skill-lines that somewhat go together, they can truly focus on making dedicated subclasses that feel and look mechanically distinct one at a time.

Downsides though is that means ZOS would likely not make any new fully fleshed out base classes, and the Subclass skill lines likely won't be as versatile, though that could be somewhat mitigated with morphs.

See, I’d rather more new Classes since every line now is a modular unit that can be applied at will to existing characters, but players (like me) who want to make new characters and see the whole world fresh will also be able to have a cohesive unit.

I have so many character ideas that I’d love to make, but I want them to all have unique skillsets instead of just being the same lines in a different wrapper. Subclassing now allows each Class to be considered as three lines to pick and choose or use as a unit, so that gives both types of players what they want.

Hurricane

That’s the build.