can confirm, digsites can appear on the wrong side of the wall

okay nvm, I found a second bug that counters the first bug, i managed to get behind the wall.
(Pls dont ban me, it was an accident, i just ported to a random guy with the "beam me up" addon)

I kinda want to port to the other side of the wall to get access to the Shared Burden set, assuming guild halls haven't already added the set to their crafting stations. I haven't participated in the Writhing Wall event yet, so I don't really have a clue how much longer it'll be until we have official access to the other half of the content we paid for.

I saw someone ask in Guild Chat for help with a boss. Ported to him and wasn't sure where we were. Didn't recognize it, but it sort of looked like a Trial (I haven't done many trials, but it was big and confusing -- which is how I feel in the few trials I have done). There were a bunch of people there, so I just joined in killing things -- but was pretty confused about what was going on, and where we were.

At the end, as near as I can tell from the completion, it was the "Writhing Fortress" that isn't supposed to be available yet! No idea how the guildmate got there.

Arggghh. WTH? I better not get banned for porting to someone who asked for help in guild chat!

Noone would have been mad if east and west had been made different zones. It seems like that would have prevented pretty much all of these issues.

I got teleported too into the zone.

I did run around to just look at the graphics, but didn't complete any content.

But now I have a waypoint unlocked and can go back whenever I want.

Can we do actual content already since this seems to be common issue (I also saw posts on Reddit and saw other people in the zone too) or is this a bannable offence @ZOS_Kevin ? I didn't do anything yet except looking at the graphics.

Because not everyone is following the game news or forums closely and people will end up in the zone if they use travel to guildmate. And the more people that unlock a waypoint, the more people that can be travelled too. So it's an expanding thing.

I saw people already doing content, so the guild markets are probably also getting the new sets and materials already.

prof-dracko wrote: »

Noone would have been mad if east and west had been made different zones. It seems like that would have prevented pretty much all of these issues.

That would be needless loading screens and fast travel for something that is technically not needed at all.

The whole issue should be fixed not by deactivating the daily quests, dig sites and wayshrines for the East, but by activating the "Crossing the Wall" quest (main story quest #6) and letting us get access to the East officially. Everything already seems to be ready on the East anyway, why prolong the whole thing artificially for another 2 weeks? People don't believe in the percentages being correct or care for that server competition anyway.

Event quests could still remain active for the coming 3 weeks for people who like to do them and want the collectibles.

Syldras wrote: »

The whole issue should be fixed not by deactivating the daily quests, dig sites and wayshrines for the East, but by activating the "Crossing the Wall" quest (main story quest #6) and letting us get access to the East officially. Everything already seems to be ready on the East anyway, why prolong the whole thing artificially for another 2 weeks? People don't believe in the percentages being correct or care for that server competition anyway.

Event quests could still remain active for the coming 3 weeks for people who like to do them and want the collectibles.

The only way I see it so zos wouldn't loose a face that badly. Admit the event was a mistake that would be improved upon, and let people access the zone without fear of repercussion. Because the only activity this month that's actually uniting the playerbase was actually helping others to cross the wall instead of fighting for fat and sap drops.

I mainly hope that when ZOS reflects on how the event went, they see that if you hype up something it needs to feel rewarding instead of a chore + relatively bugfree. You can't avoid all bugs, but this slicing up the zone in half is not working out great.

For me it feels like they put a wall to lock me out of the other half of a chapter that I already paid for, while I was actually initally looking forward to the event. And I need to grind fetch quests to get in.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

duagloth wrote: »

Katheriah wrote: »

I mainly hope that when ZOS reflects on how the event went, they see that if you hype up something it needs to feel rewarding instead of a chore.

For me it feels like they put a wall to lock me out of the other half of a chapter that I already paid for, while I was actually initally looking forward to the event. And I need to grind fetch quests to get in.

Out of spite they'll probably never do an event again, blaming the player base for not understanding the vision they had.

We are taking all feedback (not out of spite) regarding the event to our teams for review and how to do larger scale events like this better in the future. The goal is to meet player demand for new types of content. This multi-phase event is our first time doing something this complex and there are plenty of learnings we are taking away for the next time.

I’ll admit, I’m one of the players who had no issues with the old Chapter model. I tend to have a “don’t fix what ain’t broke” stance.

While I see that the team wants to try new things, the fact that it came at the expense of predictability was a massive leap backwards for me. We’ve been getting “we have fun things coming, stay tuned!” for over a year at this point, and it’s completely frustrating. There was some comfort in knowing that we could expect certain things on a schedule.
Seriously, there are only two things we know are coming, and even then it’s *eventually* coming some unspecified time in the future: Crossplay (in some nebulous form) and Overland Difficulty (in some nebulous form). We don’t even know that we will ever get anything else like combat balance, new zones, new Classes, or anything of the like.

I also disagree with the idea that this event needs to be enforced on players whether they want it or not. The invaded Delves and Public Dungeons are actively preventing players from doing certain quests or achievements, and the only solution is “well, just wait for an unspecified time until it’s back to normal.” The dailies given on Solstice and Stirk also directly spoil the last quest from Solstice part 1 by revealing a certain character died. Even the reveal of the wall showed off a certain character who came back from the dead. Again.

In the previous model, the Q2 story was not a hard requirement for the Q4 story (so it didn’t need to be spoiled for players who did not have the disposable income to get it on release), and the reveal events showed off how it was connected without directly spoiling it (and they actually revealed things, but that’s a different issue). The Chapter event, while also feeling contrived by filling a random bar, was at least rewarding and didn’t require blocking quest or achievement progress in other zones.
In short, before we felt like we mostly got what we paid for. Now, a lot of players feel like they paid more for less.

The players need a January reveal that will tell us some big things we can expect to see at some point that year if we are expected to pay money for them. It doesn’t need to release immediately, but we can not have another year of “pay us $50 and maybe by the end of the year you’ll know what you paid for and if it was worth it.”

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

duagloth wrote: »

Katheriah wrote: »

I mainly hope that when ZOS reflects on how the event went, they see that if you hype up something it needs to feel rewarding instead of a chore.

For me it feels like they put a wall to lock me out of the other half of a chapter that I already paid for, while I was actually initally looking forward to the event. And I need to grind fetch quests to get in.

Out of spite they'll probably never do an event again, blaming the player base for not understanding the vision they had.

We are taking all feedback (not out of spite) regarding the event to our teams for review and how to do larger scale events like this better in the future. The goal is to meet player demand for new types of content. This multi-phase event is our first time doing something this complex and there are plenty of learnings we are taking away for the next time.

But to @Katheriah point, we have and will continue to share the feedback around having a rewarding experience with events.

Ngl I do feel like this is the first time in forever that ZOS does actually respond to comments about something and tries to do something (even though it's not always possible).

Not really something you can change right now, but I just kinda wish that the event was enjoyable. Even though I can be a bit of a cynic at times, I did actually look forward to the event. The idea itself has potential, but it needs to be enjoyable and rewarding. It could have really been something good.