Are Vitrified Souls drop rate working as intended?

Gabriel_H · October 15

While I will give ZOS the benefit of the doubt that the amount is dropping as intended, whether they drop and where is another matter.

Case in point:

Farming Undead Essence in Glennumbra - killing Bloodthorn cultists and zombies
Spot a Soul Reaper. Kill all mobs and destroy solo reaper (solo) - no Vitrified Souls from looted corpses
Go back to killing Bloodthorn. First lootable cultist after Soul Reaper drops 2 x Vitrified Souls

That cannot be correct, surely?

ZOS_Kevin · October 15

We are taking another look at drop rate for Vitrified Souls and some other drops.

Mattymoo92 · October 15

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We are taking another look at drop rate for Vitrified Souls and some other drops.

make it so the blue boxes actually drop worthwhile loot to begin with please… discount event, I miss my surveys, plans and other treasures to sell that drop from celebration events

agelonestar · October 15

The drop rate for anything of value or use is - as usual - abysmal.

I wonder whether ZoS knows why players actually do these events. Here's a hint, Kev...... it isn't for yet another pet that literally nobody will use.

Man, 2025 content has made me seriously grumpy

Marto · October 15

What enemies are you all killing to be getting such "abysmal" drop rates?

In my experience, the droprate is somewhere around 50-75% from each individual worm cultist, and I often get 2 from elite enemies or daedra accompanying them.

PDarkBHood · October 15

In Coldharbour, when looking for vitrified souls the Spider Daedra do not drop the vitrified souls(??). Killed many and no drops. All the other daedra seem fine and can be done in under 15 minutes. But nothing from Spider Daedra.

blktauna · October 15

I didn't get anything from any kill in Coldharbour, so you were doing better than me.

PDarkBHood · October 15

blktauna wrote: »

I didn't get anything from any kill in Coldharbour, so you were doing better than me.

Oh wow!! I stick to banekin, clannfear, ogrim and scamps. These seem to drop most readily and some times two to three vitrified souls. The other daedra, especially the spiders (tons of them though) are not dropping.

SilverBride · October 15

I got them very fast around the Library of Dusk in Coldharbour from Dremora Kyngald and Churls and Cold-Flame Atronachs.

Dagoth_Rac · October 15

I've had a lot of success with the humanoid Daedra in Coldharbour

Vixen_Wild · October 15

I go into the group dungeon in Coldharbour and have been pretty successful with the drops on souls. Took maybe 10 to 15 minutes.

SeaGtGruff · October 15

Does anyone know if the Daedra in the Imperial City sewers drop vitrified souls? I'm going to try it later tonight, but wondered if anyone else had already tried it.

Gabriel_H · October 15

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Does anyone know if the Daedra in the Imperial City sewers drop vitrified souls? I'm going to try it later tonight, but wondered if anyone else had already tried it.

They should as they are coldharbour daedra.

FatOldGamer · October 15

I did 3 siege camps in a row and got 0 souls, it's a joke.

Gabriel_H · October 15

FatOldGamer wrote: »

I did 3 siege camps in a row and got 0 souls, it's a joke.

Go to any PD that has been invaded. Takes 30 - 60 seconds.

spartaxoxo · October 15

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We are taking another look at drop rate for Vitrified Souls and some other drops.

Please add animal fat to that list. I keep being directed towards Guar by quest markers but never got any from that creature. I had to do with other ones.

shadyjane62 · October 15

I sent my new alt level 5 into the event. When she was ten I went to Bruma and killed the Daedra there got 15 easy peasey and did the quests at the same time.

SeaGtGruff · October 15

Gabriel_H wrote: »

FatOldGamer wrote: »

I did 3 siege camps in a row and got 0 souls, it's a joke.

Go to any PD that has been invaded. Takes 30 - 60 seconds.

I have been finding that it can depend on which dailies you do first. What I mean is, AFAIK there's a general cooldown in the game for looting corpses and various types of containers, so after you've looted a certain amount of stuff you start finding that most containers you come across are empty, and corpses either can't be looted at all or contain only a bit of gold. So it might be a good idea to do the vitrified souls dailies first and see if that helps.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We are taking another look at drop rate for Vitrified Souls and some other drops.

Please add animal fat to that list. I keep being directed towards Guar by quest markers but never got any from that creature. I had to do with other ones.

For animal fat, durzogs and kaghouti also count. There's a pack of durzogs at the very start of Blessed Crucible, and I saw a streamer get her animal fat there-- although she (mistakenly, IMO) believed that it dropped from the humanoid enemies. And I've gotten it very quickly by going to Shadowfen down south where the New Life fishing holes are located and killing three or four kaghouti that hang out near the wayshrine there.

For lightweight furs, I've been killing werewolves in Malabal Tor-- there's a pack just SW of Baandari Trading Post. I also tried killing werewolves in Grahtwood, but there were too many other players around.

Marto · October 15

PDarkBHood wrote: »

In Coldharbour, when looking for vitrified souls the Spider Daedra do not drop the vitrified souls(??). Killed many and no drops. All the other daedra seem fine and can be done in under 15 minutes. But nothing from Spider Daedra.

The NPC that gives the quest explicitly says Worm Cultists are the ones carrying Vitrified Souls. Drops from Daedra seem to be only a bonus.

ZOS_GinaBruno · October 15

Hey everyone, just wanted to give you a heads up we are planning to increase the number of monsters that can drop Vitrified Souls via an upcoming hotfix. We'll post a thread with more details once the hotfix is complete. Hope this helps!

Arunei · 12:08AM

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey everyone, just wanted to give you a heads up we are planning to increase the number of monsters that can drop Vitrified Souls via an upcoming hotfix. We'll post a thread with more details once the hotfix is complete. Hope this helps!

Can we get an increase in mobs that can drop the other things too, though? The drop rates on those also suck. Mammoths could drop Fat, for example, since I don't think they do (at least I never got any from them).

Having a tiny number of mobs these things can drop from is frustrating and it's part of a problem we've been asking ZOS to solve for years, which is to stop putting rare quest drops on mobs that die when you fart at them sideways. It's annoying to compete with other players like this when the whole point of the event is supposed to be working together.

Seriously, why do the devs keep insisting on a system they've been told for years isn't fun or engaging?

LootAllTheStuff · 12:23AM

Does anyone know how many times a day you can do the vitrified souls and materials quests? I see the blue quest marker reappear after turning in both, but I don't really want to spend all my time chasing those things if it isn't worth it.

Hmmm...... I wonder if (and along the lines of @SeaGtGruff 's suggestion) that isn't a factor in how some people just aren't seeing the items drop?

SilverBride · 12:25AM

I was told we can do these quests 6 times per day per character.

TomCat · 12:38AM

LootAllTheStuff wrote: »

Does anyone know how many times a day you can do the vitrified souls and materials quests?

You can do each of these event quests 6 times per day per character.
Edit: damn, I was too slow^^

LootAllTheStuff · 12:51AM

Thanks both - good to know!

dcrush · 1:27AM

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey everyone, just wanted to give you a heads up we are planning to increase the number of monsters that can drop Vitrified Souls via an upcoming hotfix. We'll post a thread with more details once the hotfix is complete. Hope this helps!

Please consider making vitrified souls, animal fat, etc a guaranteed drop instead of a chance. I’m not having a problem finding monsters than can drop these things but killing 60+ of them before getting any drops at all is quite tiresome.

ApoAlaia · 12:26PM

I can't tell if something has changed or I just experienced a fluke, has someone else experienced this?

I did the dailies with my alts this AM and the behaviour in the incursions was as expected: If I arrived and the mobs defending the soul reapers had already been engaged I was SoL, no souls to loot for me.

I had to basically enter within range of the incursion 'early' or there would be no lootable instances left behind.

Alas I did my main between 12 and 1 BST and even the first incursion, which I arrived to with the main boss already engaged, it left a lootable instance upon 'defeat'.

Furthermore I got enough souls to complete the quest in every incursion thereafter, allowing me to finish both quests concurrently (which made the whole experience feel a lot more palatable).

Was this a fluke or have others experience the same behaviour? It certainly has not been like this for me until today, it was a coin toss whether I would get souls or not.

AzuraFan · 1:51PM

You can get the souls quickly by doing the siege camps. After figuring that out, it's the only way I've done them. It usually takes only one or two camps. Just be sure to loot any bodies from the groups that are with the soul reapers.

Lyssia_Blackthorn · 2:18PM

ApoAlaia wrote: »

I can't tell if something has changed or I just experienced a fluke, has someone else experienced this?

I did the dailies with my alts this AM and the behaviour in the incursions was as expected: If I arrived and the mobs defending the soul reapers had already been engaged I was SoL, no souls to loot for me.

I had to basically enter within range of the incursion 'early' or there would be no lootable instances left behind.

Alas I did my main between 12 and 1 BST and even the first incursion, which I arrived to with the main boss already engaged, it left a lootable instance upon 'defeat'.

Furthermore I got enough souls to complete the quest in every incursion thereafter, allowing me to finish both quests concurrently (which made the whole experience feel a lot more palatable).

Was this a fluke or have others experience the same behaviour? It certainly has not been like this for me until today, it was a coin toss whether I would get souls or not.

Yeah, I had the same experience as well. I do suspect they fixed a bug. Before, the quest count for the souls would flash as if I was getting souls while I looted, except I wasn't actually getting the souls, and the number would stay the same. (Repeated 3/15 flashing as I looted). That suddenly stopped when I started getting enough souls to complete the quests in 1-2 incursions, as long as I was there when they started.

valenwood_vegan · 5:22PM

Has there been a hotfix? If not, is there an ETA? What's being adjusted? Why doesn't the known issues thread match the information we were given in this thread? Any further information? Where's the communication?

ZOS_GinaBruno · 5:42PM

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

Has there been a hotfix? If not, is there an ETA? What's being adjusted? Why doesn't the known issues thread match the information we were given in this thread? Any further information? Where's the communication?

The hotfix is in progress and we will post a thread with details over in Patch Notes & Hotfixes as soon as it's complete.