a, so to say "leave me alone" mode for peole, have to go to cyro or the IC woulb be nice

Horace-Wimp · September 8

And let us port out of Cyro from wherever we happen to be and not HAVE to find and use a wayshrine. It took me over an hour to [snip] if that zone the first time I went there and I haven't been back since.
[edited for profanity bypass]

aza_sel · September 8

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

the risk to aquire is gold
dont know how much you have, but as far as i know, people doning pvp dont have much gold, as i aredy mentioned, got housing you need gold. besides of an eso plus.

ShutUpitsRed · September 8

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

And let us port out of Cyro from wherever we happen to be and not HAVE to find and use a wayshrine. It took me over an hour to [snip] if that zone the first time I went there and I haven't been back since.

For future reference, you can queue into any of the IC campaigns, straight into a base, from Cyrodiil and the other way around. No shame in deathporting either!

[edited to remove quote]

ShutUpitsRed · September 8

I honestly have no idea what you’re going on about in the comments, OP, but sometimes you have to accept you’re not going to get the rewards for achievements you’re unwilling to put the effort into doing.

Some achievements are really hard and it sucks when they feel out of reach. I for one know I’m not going to be getting any of the trial mounts, but I’m certainly not going to ask for a trial mode that removes the bosses or something so I can get a shiny new ride lol.

PvP exists and has very few desireable rewards for its achievements. If you want those rewards, you gotta play the game.

CameraBeardThePirate · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

the risk to aquire is gold
dont know how much you have, but as far as i know, people doning pvp dont have much gold, as i aredy mentioned, got housing you need gold. besides of an eso plus.

That's not really true though.

IC is one of the best places to make gold through Tel Var.

shadoza · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.
if im interested in housing, as i said, im interested in getting the PVE achievements like dungeons or trials, get mats for housing, get furnishing plans and get gold
also: for housing you need eso-plus.
and: for the argonian house boat you need the Commemorative Master Angler
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Commemorative_Master_Angler
the master angler ive got a few, 8 years ago, the other zones are no problem, if you consider the time youre investing, but IC is a problem. cause i dont want to invest my time in resurrecting somewhere and go back to the fishing spot and resurrect somewhere and so on.

I enjoy long term achievements that show progress; however, the one you linked has a rl money tied to it. If one doesn't purchase the Soistice chapter, they cannot achieve it. Imagine realizing that there is a 'pay wall' at the end of ones achievement. [No Argonian House boat for me as I will not spend $50 on a chapter that focuses one group play.]

I agree with your take on doing non-fighting tasks in PvP zones. If the fights were one-on-one or if the fights were balanced, it would not be as serious. But groups get bonuses for being grouped /guild so one soul running alone trying to do non-PvP activities in those areas are subject to becoming kill-fodder for groups or over-powered attackers. There are dungeons, treasures, and quests inside the PvP zone that are not really PvP related.

I have treasure maps, perhaps too many, in Cyrodiil. What I have resolve to do is to look up the location of the treasure, then use a character that aligns with whichever faction has the control the location. I prefer to try to find the location from the map images but it doesn't make sense to do that in Cyrodiil. I find each treasure only once and will delete any copies I discover because the treasure is not worth the risk and hunting the treasure is not focused. I fished there once.

I have not tried fishing in Imperial City. I was there a couple times. The first time I was killed by a player that was lurking with invisibility. I could see them but I was in position where I had my back to a wall. The second time I was doing a quest and was trying to figure out the map so I could get to location and was attacked by two players. They just one-hit me. I have not been back after that. I can't imagine fishing in such a location.

[You don't have to answer to the fora bullies. You can just move past their posts. Having many stars behind the user name does not give liberties to attack, dismiss, or belittle other posters.]

DenverRalphy · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

a simple thing, you dont get furniture plans in pvp, and you dont get enough gold to buy mat,
and at least: you dont have enough time to farm both, though for some achievements you need a completly different setup than pvp

Says who?

Not all PvP'ers are All-In on participating solely in PvP, and very many are quite adept and quite successful at earning gold and mats. Not to mention that your whole premise is behind an achievement furnishing, not a furnishing plan. As well, there are a plethora of furnishings acquired solely through PvP.

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

the risk to aquire is gold
dont know how much you have, but as far as i know, people doning pvp dont have much gold, as i aredy mentioned, got housing you need gold. besides of an eso plus.

Acquiring gold in itself isn't a risk. It's simply something that needs to be worked for. Any risk resides solely in the method one chooses to acquire said gold. There are plenty of risk free methods to choose from. And again.. plenty of PvP'ers make plenty of gold. And I'm not seeing the correlation between PvP and ESO+.

aza_sel · September 8

shadoza wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.
if im interested in housing, as i said, im interested in getting the PVE achievements like dungeons or trials, get mats for housing, get furnishing plans and get gold
also: for housing you need eso-plus.
and: for the argonian house boat you need the Commemorative Master Angler
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Commemorative_Master_Angler
the master angler ive got a few, 8 years ago, the other zones are no problem, if you consider the time youre investing, but IC is a problem. cause i dont want to invest my time in resurrecting somewhere and go back to the fishing spot and resurrect somewhere and so on.

I enjoy long term achievements that show progress; however, the one you linked has a rl money tied to it. If one doesn't purchase the Soistice chapter, they cannot achieve it. Imagine realizing that there is a 'pay wall' at the end of ones achievement. [No Argonian House boat for me as I will not spend $50 on a chapter that focuses one group play.]

I agree with your take on doing non-fighting tasks in PvP zones. If the fights were one-on-one or if the fights were balanced, it would not be as serious. But groups get bonuses for being grouped /guild so one soul running alone trying to do non-PvP activities in those areas are subject to becoming kill-fodder for groups or over-powered attackers. There are dungeons, treasures, and quests inside the PvP zone that are not really PvP related.

I have treasure maps, perhaps too many, in Cyrodiil. What I have resolve to do is to look up the location of the treasure, then use a character that aligns with whichever faction has the control the location. I prefer to try to find the location from the map images but it doesn't make sense to do that in Cyrodiil. I find each treasure only once and will delete any copies I discover because the treasure is not worth the risk and hunting the treasure is not focused. I fished there once.

I have not tried fishing in Imperial City. I was there a couple times. The first time I was killed by a player that was lurking with invisibility. I could see them but I was in position where I had my back to a wall. The second time I was doing a quest and was trying to figure out the map so I could get to location and was attacked by two players. They just one-hit me. I have not been back after that. I can't imagine fishing in such a location.

[You don't have to answer to the fora bullies. You can just move past their posts. Having many stars behind the user name does not give liberties to attack, dismiss, or belittle other posters.]

i dont mind about anything (sorry about typing errors) and i dont mind about others (lets leave that) its just about the achievments, and im not sure if other players leave me alon if im fishing (as some said).
im playing this games since 2015 and. ok besides, ive studied zoology, you need statistics especiallly for behavioral science, anyway, it would be nice if zos does something, quit achievements for pvp you need for housing
if you want to know a few special details about me, try to contact me at @azazel555

spartaxoxo · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

That may be true for you but it's not true for everyone. There are plenty of PvP players that enjoy housing and want to furnish their house with things they earned doing the activity they enjoy too.

There's housing stuff in all the activities so that all activities are fun and rewarding.

Just go to the no-cp IC when there's not an event and nobody will bother you, especially if you also off peak. Even if they do, they'll kill you once, see you ain't got Tel Var and leave you alone after that.

of cause i know friends and guild mates, also overlords, but its adifferent thing.
how many furniture plans do you know? im about 95%
how many mats do you have? for crafting. how many style mats do you have? sendars stamp or eyes of mora or ? i dont mention the other used for tempering ir ivory brigade clasp?

I'm not a big PvPer but I knew people who did enjoy pvp and housing. I'd see them with their elder scrolls and their volendrungs. Some of them knew more plans than me and I know a lot of plans.

Here's some examples of houses that I have built.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

My current Top 3 Houses

1. My custom-made Floating Wizard Tower in the sky at Coldharbour Surreal Estate.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/640201/floating-wizard-tower

It was my most complex build by a country mile and I think it turned out really well. It is also my love letter to the franchise as a whole. It's designed to feel like the staging of a missing quest. It has a puzzle and little hidden references to other Elder Scrolls games.

2. My custom-made Werewolf and Druid village in Hircine's realm. Pics in later comment.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/633734/my-werewolf-and-druid-village

I wanted to give this village a small town feel to it, like some of the smaller ones in ESO. I think captured the vibe I was going for.

3. My cherry blossom custom remodel at Ravenhurst. My latest build.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/657837/cherry-blossoms-at-raven-hurst-‍#latest

I've been wanting to one with a more Japanese/Asian feel for a long while now because I have always loved the aesthetic. And I have been inspired by so many other good ones with this theme. But it felt so daunting to make my own. I do finally have the skill at housing though to make something I'm pleased with and it makes me happy. I am so happy that my guild's contest finally gave me the push I needed to make this house! It was a garden themed contest (I won 2nd place).

Honorable mention

My Christmas/New Life house

Old build. But one I enjoy setting as my primary every year to get into the festive mood!

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/556889/christmas-magic-snowglobe

I don't have an issue with PvP having housing stuff. I've even unlocked some of it. Although I probably won't ever get the Elder Scroll because it requires so much PvP. I still have Volendrung unlocked, the fishing stuff, and some of the lesser rank rewards from participating in Midyear Mayhems.

ESO_player123 · September 8

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

And let us port out of Cyro from wherever we happen to be and not HAVE to find and use a wayshrine. It took me over an hour to [snip] if that zone the first time I went there and I haven't been back since.

@Horace-Wimp Just queue for IC, port there when prompted, use exit door and you will appear in the same sport you were when you ported to Cyro.
[edited to remove quote]

aza_sel · September 8

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

a simple thing, you dont get furniture plans in pvp, and you dont get enough gold to buy mat,
and at least: you dont have enough time to farm both, though for some achievements you need a completly different setup than pvp

Says who?

Not all PvP'ers are All-In on participating solely in PvP, and very many are quite adept and quite successful at earning gold and mats. Not to mention that your whole premise is behind an achievement furnishing, not a furnishing plan. As well, there are a plethora of furnishings acquired solely through PvP.

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

the risk to aquire is gold
dont know how much you have, but as far as i know, people doning pvp dont have much gold, as i aredy mentioned, got housing you need gold. besides of an eso plus.

Acquiring gold in itself isn't a risk. It's simply something that needs to be worked for. Any risk resides solely in the method one chooses to acquire said gold. There are plenty of risk free methods to choose from. And again.. plenty of PvP'ers make plenty of gold. And I'm not seeing the correlation between PvP and ESO+.

sorry i think you dont know anything about this game

edward_frigidhands · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

is it possible to establish a "leave me alone" mode for people, who arent interested in PVP but have to go to cyro or the IC, example because of fishing, or do scouting quests during midyear mayhem, just for the event tickets?
I mean a mode where you cant attack other players or NPc's (in the IC i dont need to collect tel var stones, but fishing ) and you cant be attacked by other players or NPC's?

The entire point of PVP zones is for you to PVP in. There are other zones where you can engage in activities without PVP.

spartaxoxo · September 8

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

a simple thing, you dont get furniture plans in pvp, and you dont get enough gold to buy mat,
and at least: you dont have enough time to farm both, though for some achievements you need a completly different setup than pvp

Says who?

Not all PvP'ers are All-In on participating solely in PvP, and very many are quite adept and quite successful at earning gold and mats. Not to mention that your whole premise is behind an achievement furnishing, not a furnishing plan. As well, there are a plethora of furnishings acquired solely through PvP.

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

the risk to aquire is gold
dont know how much you have, but as far as i know, people doning pvp dont have much gold, as i aredy mentioned, got housing you need gold. besides of an eso plus.

Acquiring gold in itself isn't a risk. It's simply something that needs to be worked for. Any risk resides solely in the method one chooses to acquire said gold. There are plenty of risk free methods to choose from. And again.. plenty of PvP'ers make plenty of gold. And I'm not seeing the correlation between PvP and ESO+.

Yeah. You're quite correct. I've met plenty of PvPers with gold. Crafting writs are easy, quick, and risk free. Any player can do them and start making coin. It takes a while to start up but once you have it's literally printing coin frankly. Some of them are in to housing.

By Oblivion, there are players who have done literally every single thing this game has to offer.

DenverRalphy · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

a simple thing, you dont get furniture plans in pvp, and you dont get enough gold to buy mat,
and at least: you dont have enough time to farm both, though for some achievements you need a completly different setup than pvp

Says who?

Not all PvP'ers are All-In on participating solely in PvP, and very many are quite adept and quite successful at earning gold and mats. Not to mention that your whole premise is behind an achievement furnishing, not a furnishing plan. As well, there are a plethora of furnishings acquired solely through PvP.

aza_sel wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

You mean take the housing achievements out of PvP.
Then you get the housing achievement, but no PvP achievements if you don't go and PvP.
I mean why would you want PvP achievements if you don't like PvP?

simply: if im interested in housing, im not interested in pvp.

Hooey I say!! I know bunches of players who are huge into housing, and are also interested in PvP. Interest in one does not exclude interest in the other. Why should PvP players not have furnishing rewards?

There's zero reason a furnishing can't require a bit of risk to acquire. Whether that takes form in PvE or PvP doesn't matter. ESO is an MMORPG. Not a worry free virtual tourist attraction like Second Life. That would be boring.

[edit] Besides which.. the Master Fisher achievement required Cyrodiil fishing. Yet you managed to accomplish that one.

the risk to aquire is gold
dont know how much you have, but as far as i know, people doning pvp dont have much gold, as i aredy mentioned, got housing you need gold. besides of an eso plus.

Acquiring gold in itself isn't a risk. It's simply something that needs to be worked for. Any risk resides solely in the method one chooses to acquire said gold. There are plenty of risk free methods to choose from. And again.. plenty of PvP'ers make plenty of gold. And I'm not seeing the correlation between PvP and ESO+.

sorry i think you dont know anything about this game

<shrug> I know enough to have purchased the Argonian Houseboat after earning the achievement in question.

scrappy1342 · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

@aza_sel The times I was fishing in Cyro and Imp City no one ever fighted me.
Usually players igonre you if you're fishing.

that gives me hope, i hope you are right

this was my experience. i remember one of them (may have been salt water?) is in yellow territory. i do everything on my main (blue), but for this, i took one of my yellow alts. no one bothered me, but there was sure plenty of anxiety every time someone ran by. i, personally, would love to have a non pvp-instance of ic and cyro to be able to do the quests and get event tickets. don't think it will ever happen, but it sure would be nice.

Chrisilis · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

ive got the master angler already, but for the other achievement, the Commemorative Master Angler (argonian house boat, housing) i need the IC, there are only a few fishing spots there.
though i level up sharp-as night to get the keepsake, im afraid that im the most time resurrecting somewhere. ok, ill get up in the night, my time 2 or 3 o clock, fishing in cyro was hard enough, but i have to go to the IC with champion points active.
or take the IC master angler out of this achievement. im not interested in PVP.
people who are interested in housing need at first eso-plus, furnishing plans and mats and gold to buy them.
ive seen now, the plan for the tide born sculpture coral is available for 1,4 millions. i dont know how much gold youve got, i can buy that plan easily but i dont want to support this. im occupied with get gold, get plans and get mats. thats exhausting enough. and also to get the achievements in PVE, to buy furniture.
thats why.

and believe me: its easier farming mats in PVE zones

Funny, I needed IC to get Commemorative Angler so I went there yesterday to fish. It was about 3 a.m. Eastern so it was pretty empty except for this one guy. There I was, peacefully minding my own business, and an EP player (Im DC) comes by and mercs me. He was a NB, I never saw him coming. And he kept doing it every twenty minutes or so for the entire time I was there. So you know what I did? I respawned and kept fishing. While most would agree what that guy did was kinda of a **** move that's the price of doing business in a PvP zone. Got IC Angler in about two hours with an Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl running. Going in in the off hours is a great idea and you can knock it out quick despite some ******* killing you every 20 minutes 😊

shadoza · September 8

Chrisilis wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

ive got the master angler already, but for the other achievement, the Commemorative Master Angler (argonian house boat, housing) i need the IC, there are only a few fishing spots there.
though i level up sharp-as night to get the keepsake, im afraid that im the most time resurrecting somewhere. ok, ill get up in the night, my time 2 or 3 o clock, fishing in cyro was hard enough, but i have to go to the IC with champion points active.
or take the IC master angler out of this achievement. im not interested in PVP.
people who are interested in housing need at first eso-plus, furnishing plans and mats and gold to buy them.
ive seen now, the plan for the tide born sculpture coral is available for 1,4 millions. i dont know how much gold youve got, i can buy that plan easily but i dont want to support this. im occupied with get gold, get plans and get mats. thats exhausting enough. and also to get the achievements in PVE, to buy furniture.
thats why.

and believe me: its easier farming mats in PVE zones

Funny, I needed IC to get Commemorative Angler so I went there yesterday to fish. It was about 3 a.m. Eastern so it was pretty empty except for this one guy. There I was, peacefully minding my own business, and an EP player (Im DC) comes by and mercs me. He was a NB, I never saw him coming. And he kept doing it every twenty minutes or so for the entire time I was there. So you know what I did? I respawned and kept fishing. While most would agree what that guy did was kinda of a **** move that's the price of doing business in a PvP zone. Got IC Angler in about two hours with an Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl running. Going in in the off hours is a great idea and you can knock it out quick despite some ******* killing you every 20 minutes 😊

Not an option for people with jobs and family obligations.

kargen27 · September 8

There are a few fishing holes in Imperial City that are almost completely hidden from passers-by. Go into sneak mode and stay in sneak mode while you are fishing. I might be remembering wrong but I think the only time you come out of sneak mode is when you cast?
It wouldn't be good for the game to have PvE only Cyrodiil and Imperial City nor would it be good to be able to opt out of being attacked. PvP needs a steady flow of players coming in to replace those leaving or taking a break. A big chunk of new players get their first PvP experience from doing the PvE content in those zones. Some like it and come back. That is good for the game.
If fishing avoid going there during events. Also I think it helps to not fight back and have no stones on your character when fishing if you aren't used to PvP. If you just stand there so they get no fight and no reward that gives them less incentive to keep hunting you.
That doesn't always help but most the time once they realize you aren't going to fight they leave you alone. There are a few that are really really bad at PvP that roam around down there hoping to take their frustration of constant dying out on someone new to the zone. Only thing you can do when you encounter one of these types is wait until later or try a different district and hope they give up before they find you again.
The absolute worst part about fishing Imperial City is it only has foul holes. Can take a long time to get that last blue you need.

ShutUpitsRed · September 8

shadoza wrote: »

Not an option for people with jobs and family obligations.

Most of the game's harder isn't then? Including PvE?

shadoza · September 8

ShutUpitsRed wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

Not an option for people with jobs and family obligations.

Most of the game's harder isn't then? Including PvE?

Please rephrase your response. I do not understand what you are saying. Are you suggesting that the game, in general, is more difficult for those that cannot play long hours or odd hours?

ShutUpitsRed · September 8

shadoza wrote: »

Please rephrase your response. I do not understand what you are saying. Are you suggesting that the game, in general, is more difficult for those that cannot play long hours or odd hours?

Derp I left out the word "content". Most of the game's harder content isn't then, including PvP.

I'm saying the game in general requires time and effort, and if you don't have time and effort to give to PvP or PvE activities, you're not gonna get the rewards from those activities.

LunaFlora · September 8

i would love that but i doubt it would ever happen

Sluggy · September 8

aza_sel wrote: »

ive got the master angler already, but for the other achievement, the Commemorative Master Angler (argonian house boat, housing) i need the IC, there are only a few fishing spots there.
though i level up sharp-as night to get the keepsake, im afraid that im the most time resurrecting somewhere. ok, ill get up in the night, my time 2 or 3 o clock, fishing in cyro was hard enough, but i have to go to the IC with champion points active.
or take the IC master angler out of this achievement. im not interested in PVP.
people who are interested in housing need at first eso-plus, furnishing plans and mats and gold to buy them.
ive seen now, the plan for the tide born sculpture coral is available for 1,4 millions. i dont know how much gold youve got, i can buy that plan easily but i dont want to support this. im occupied with get gold, get plans and get mats. thats exhausting enough. and also to get the achievements in PVE, to buy furniture.
thats why.

and believe me: its easier farming mats in PVE zones

PvP is fundamentally part of the achievement. If you are not interested in PvP then you are not interested in the achievement. 'Achieving' something by skipping a core aspect of the challenge of it is kind of the opposite of achieving it, no? I'm not interested in fishing, therefore shouldn't I also receive this achievement while fighting in keeps?

Hapexamendios · September 9

I'm all for keeping the PvP areas the way they are. There is not enough content in either zone to warrant a PVE only version.

shadoza · September 9

ShutUpitsRed wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

Please rephrase your response. I do not understand what you are saying. Are you suggesting that the game, in general, is more difficult for those that cannot play long hours or odd hours?

Derp I left out the word "content". Most of the game's harder content isn't then, including PvP.

I'm saying the game in general requires time and effort, and if you don't have time and effort to give to PvP or PvE activities, you're not gonna get the rewards from those activities.

Understand, please, that I am not saying one may not have time. I am only saying one may not be able to play in the midnight hours when the game is less populated.

shadoza · September 9

Hapexamendios wrote: »

I'm all for keeping the PvP areas the way they are. There is not enough content in either zone to warrant a PVE only version.

But it seems the OP is not looking for a version only immunity while doing non-fighting adventures.
I think it more enjoyable if PvP is not attached to a focused task. (it would feel like being attacked while working at a crafting station or talking to a quest giver. Trying to fish in a fighting zone would feel the same.)

Elvenheart · September 9

I don’t PvP very much at all. When I go into a PvP zone it’s usually to accomplish something else, like collecting skyshards. But I like the zones the way they are with the risk that being in a PvP zone entails. It just makes it more exciting for me. Those times I do get caught and don’t escape and get killed, it’s just not a big deal, a minor inconvenience, not permadeath. If it was I’d never risk going there to begin with.

AlnilamE · September 9

As other have said, some of the biggest housing enthusiasts I know in the game are also big PvPers.

It's ok to not like PvP, and you can still get the fishing achievements.

For IC:
- All the fishing holes are in the inner moat and all of them are foul water, so you can fish in any of them.
- You can sneak while fishing, so you'll only be visible when you are casting/reeling in unless someone is very close to you.
- Try staying away from the flags if they are from an enemy alliance so you don't aggro the guards.
- If you stay with your back to the wall of the moat, there is less of a chance of someone seeing you.
- If you get killed, just respawn in a different district and fish there instead.
- Don't take it personally if you get killed. They are not able to steal your fish.

For Cyrodiil:
- Most of the fishing holes are away from the action, but keep an eye on the map to see where the battle lines are. If you are fishing between keeps of different colours, chances of running into enemy players is higher. If you are far from the front lines, it's usually quieter, even if you are deep in enemy territory.

For event tickets, the best thing do to is go get a couple of characters before the event starts and get them to do a scouting quest and a Fighters Guild bounty (you need a skill point in that to unlock those). If you can capture a resource as well, that would be a third quest you can stack up. If you do this on enough characters, you can just log in to hand in one quest per day during the event to get the tickets. The same thing can be done in IC, and you can do all 6 district quests and hand them in one per day as well. I've done this several times when I know I'm going to be busy during the event.

I hope that helps.

DenverRalphy · September 9

Hardest part about fishing in Cyrodiil is the Saltwater fishing nodes. There's only 4 of them, and all of them deep in EP/AD territory. Best to avoid getting those on a DC toon if it can be avoided. Though still not impossible. Would just be a lot of wasted travel to get taken out before you're done.

Orbital78 · September 9

On PC-NA I didn't have major issues doing the achievements, I think even during a PVP event. There were two or three of us at times fishing. There is always going to be that jerk that just wants to kill everyone, but for the most part I was left alone. Use an addon like Tel Var saver and always deposit your tel var. Who cares if they kill you, just avoid them and do something else for awhile.