i really hope this gets fixed

Still a problem on PTS U47:

Screenshots: only 2 Solstice Antiquities are showing up at the vendor. Others are not, even though I found all of them at least once on PTS:




Likewise in West Weald, none of the Tapestries (etc.) are showing, even though I found all at least once on Live:






They should be buyable upon unlocking. Otherwise what's the point of 3/3-ing the Codex? I've stopped buying West Weald maps; it's pointless with how low the drop rates are, on top of not being able to get these items even when you finally unlock, years later. Related: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/677218/solstice-treasure-map-leads-and-lootable-rewards-sources-rng-bugs

Ticketed again:

MoonPile wrote: »

Since one of the related threads below was closed and it was suggested to start a new one, here it is.

For the past 2 years, some (completed, unlocked) Antiquities have been missing from their zone's vendors: Apocrypha, West Weald, and now Solstice on PTS. I HOPE it's a bug and not intended (map leads are bad enough as it is), but this is a really long time for no fix and no comms/clarity.

This UESP page is not updated, https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Antiquity_Furnishings

But some of the missing ones include:

• All three Colovian tapestries
• Pottery, Sanguine Repaired
• Apocrypha fossils
• Several Argonian Stone-Nest totems

Related:

• https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8305883#Comment_8305883
• https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8305882#Comment_8305882
• https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8305873#Comment_8305873 – thread closed

I really wish we knew more about this situation, a lot of members of the housing community I run have been wondering about this.

Sorry to bother you @ZOS_Kevin but do you have any information to share about this?
Any particular way we can make this be seen?

The blue-tiered antiquity Ayleid trees are also missing from the Achievement vendor:

[*] Ayleid Sculpture, Simple Tree
[*] Ayleid Sculpture, Complex Tree

MoonPile wrote: »

They should be buyable upon unlocking. Otherwise what's the point of 3/3-ing the Codex? I've stopped buying West Weald maps; it's pointless with how low the drop rates are, on top of not being able to get these items even when you finally unlock, years later. Related: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/677218/solstice-treasure-map-leads-and-lootable-rewards-sources-rng-bugs

I agree. I can understand certain collectibles like music boxes being effectively one-of-a-kind, but items like trees, lighting and tapestries are standard decorative features. We should have the ability to collect or purchase multiples of these.

@ZOS_Kevin We really need these added to the achievement vendor's inventory, especially if drop chances for them are so inordinately low.

BretonMage wrote: »

The blue-tiered antiquity Ayleid trees are also missing from the Achievement vendor:

[*] Ayleid Sculpture, Simple Tree
[*] Ayleid Sculpture, Complex Tree

MoonPile wrote: »

They should be buyable upon unlocking. Otherwise what's the point of 3/3-ing the Codex? I've stopped buying West Weald maps; it's pointless with how low the drop rates are, on top of not being able to get these items even when you finally unlock, years later. Related: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/677218/solstice-treasure-map-leads-and-lootable-rewards-sources-rng-bugs

I agree. I can understand certain collectibles like music boxes being effectively one-of-a-kind, but items like trees, lighting and tapestries are standard decorative features. We should have the ability to collect or purchase multiples of these.

@ZOS_Kevin We really need these added to the achievement vendor's inventory, especially if drop chances for them are so inordinately low.

AFAIK, even the music boxes are buyable. Are any of them missing from their vendors too? The entire Antiquities system sets up the gameplay for all furnishings to be: 3/3 codex = unlock to buy

So the discrepancy doesn't make sense. Unlocking is pointless if it doesn't unlock anything.

(On top of the related problem that the map system is terrible. So bad that I'm starting to wonder if Solstice maps are actually bugged since the last patch / for 2/3 codex and beyond – see data at the bottom of the OP here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/681576/update-on-solstice-treasure-map-leads-drop-data-aug-5-2025/p1)

Thank you for adding those threads, @Asdara. The OP topics in those are more related to the thread above, about Solstice lead data. So we have two separate bugs AFAIK: no leads dropping, and unbuyable items. Or else, gameplay so bad that it appears bugged.

It's frustrating not to see any answers at all for several years, and not know whether anyone is seeing this. I will continue reporting it I guess.

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BretonMage wrote: »

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I did notice that none of the green and blue tiered antiquities are available at the achievement vendors, which unfortunately might indicate that it is intended. However that would only make sense if the green and blue tiered antiquities dropped fairly regularly, but they absolutely do not.

You're right! That's one thing I didn't realize – there were no blue/green furnishing antiquities before Apocrypha besides maps to compare with. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Antiquity_Furnishings

So the rules quietly changed for blues & greens? It just doesn't make sense, since they have a codex-unlock just like the purple & golds – rendered purposeless. And as you said, they don't drop well; it's not like you can reasonably get multiple.

E.g. In this thread I'm at 61 empty maps / 1 month since any lead in Solstice: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/681576/update-on-solstice-treasure-map-leads-drop-data-aug-5-2025/p1?new=1

Initially I was doing it out of curiosity, to test numbers, but I'm rather tired and done. I sent a request in about whether we could get a similar furnishing with the lighting effect like Solstice Bismuth Tower; I would have loved to use them in Housing but that seems wildly impractical now. It's a shame, a waste of great assets IMO.

"What use is treasure if it stays sealed away?" – Zerith-var.

Also, one divergent item UESP is incorrect on / haven't updated: Watchful Light. Buyable because the lead is purple, even though the furnishing is blue?

(Oh and lol: note the still-red Trifold Mirror of Alternatives. I fought Nightmare WB dozens of times on all different characters and finally gave up; permanently stuck on 2/3.)

@ZOS_Kevin sorry to tag but please, can you tell us anything? Is this on purpose?

The second lead for anything has always been known to be higher than the others, with no explanation given for why. At this point, the treasure map leads for the second codex in West Weald fit the definition of a scam. I will wait until the next double lead event, though that did not really help me either.

i really wish there was 1 singular vendor for antiquity furnishings instead of having them spread out to high heaven making them difficult to find

put the vendor at the antiquarian circle in western skyrim (as you that dlc to do antiquities in the first place)

for treasure map leads i dont even bother hunting them down, ill dig up maps i need leads for but if i dont get them im not gonna worry about it