Aren't they extinct though?

“ThEyRe ExTiNcT” people will say that when there’s no solid concrete, written-in-stone evidence that the Lilmothiit are gone-gone. There’s even concept art for em for ESO:


ESO could absolutely implement them in an expansion and whatnot, as well as build on their lore.

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

“ThEyRe ExTiNcT” people will say that when there’s no solid concrete, written-in-stone evidence that the Lilmothiit are gone-gone. There’s even concept art for em for ESO:


ESO could absolutely implement them in an expansion and whatnot, as well as build on their lore.

They look very similar to werewolves, but I would be down to try them.

We absolutely should have the Maormer added as a playable race, since they're already in the game and because more races please.

I've been wanting Lilmothiits for years, but the lore nuts won't allow such fun.

Orbital78 wrote: »

Furry dreams can come true

Yes please 🙏🏻🐶🐺

Maybe we can ape out as Imga too.

not viable. anything non-humanoid would require an extreme effort by the art departments to implement due to the number of motifs, outfits, hats that would need unique variants to accommodate. Even if they could just reuse Khajiit for a few this dog design would not be viable for most masks.

this is the reason why we cannot have new weapon types btw.. it would take at least 2 years to implement any new weapon with the number of motifs we have.

Everyone trots out Maormer - and whilst they exist around the place, walking into any of the AD zones *should* be a death warrant.

There are so many quests and NPC interactions that state quite clearly that there is zero chance of Maormer being allowed to live inside the territorial waters, let alone setting foot on the sand, it would be a massive thing to go back and change the way the quests play out and what the dialogue says.

Am I a furry? No. I want a little more variety, something to give a new character dimension to the game. But I play Khajiit s and Argonians and find their looks and racial passives fun to build into.

Werewolf? I absolutely considered if Lilmothiit could have special werewolf interaction, that could be cool. Giving some sort of boost to WW in order to allow them to be competitive in endgame? Probably not, but the concept would be interesting.

tomofhyrule wrote: »

They're extinct.

Your entire thing is based on hypotheticals. "They could have gone to this island so they might have been able to survive." And that doesn't discount the fact that if they were playable, then players would be able to leave the island... which then defeats that whole purpose.

For starters, as someone else pointed out, they aren't extinct. They just disappeared. That's not the same.

Secondly, think of the new quests they could populate Black Marsh with - you have the Lilmothiit that want to rejoin the mainland, and those who want to stay fortified and forget the rest of the world - a trope that is played out elsewhere in Tamriel and in many other genres (and it works!).
Wherever the Khajiit are found in numbers, these interlopers can be viewed with suspicion and fear - another trope, one that also works well.

The point is that it can drive a large number of quests with the new dimension and the new quest interaction system can build on it. Also gives new foes too.

New playable races are probably unlikely this late into the game's life span; they can't be fit into the old content to make them feel a common species. The race would also have to be able to fit into the triple alliance structure, or be widespread and well accepted enough to be considered a neutral race.

UNLESS ZoS does a massive game reforming event, where new races are suddenly retconned into Tamriel-wide acceptance, like what Daggerfall+Morrowind did to Orcs.



Lilmothiiit could and should make an appearance at one point tho, as NPCs. As far as lore goes they are THOUGHT to be extinct. There could def be a pocket or two of them surviving still. Like how Snow Elves appeared in Skyrim.
Certainly a good candidate for eventual companions.

On a similiar note, I'd like to see some more non-hostile minotaurs in quests, maybe even as quest giver. Considering that Domihaus learned how to speak Tamrielic, I don't think it's farfetched that others could as well.

(tbh I'd absolutely do a second Warp in the West for playable minotaurs, lol)

Only if there is a Bard involved. If they could lull their enemies into submission perhaps they wouldn't be extinct?

mctaff wrote: »

For starters, as someone else pointed out, they aren't extinct. They just disappeared. That's not the same.

Secondly, think of the new quests they could populate Black Marsh with - you have the Lilmothiit that want to rejoin the mainland, and those who want to stay fortified and forget the rest of the world - a trope that is played out elsewhere in Tamriel and in many other genres (and it works!).
Wherever the Khajiit are found in numbers, these interlopers can be viewed with suspicion and fear - another trope, one that also works well.

The point is that it can drive a large number of quests with the new dimension and the new quest interaction system can build on it. Also gives new foes too.

No, they did not just disappear, that's the dwemer. The Lilmothiit were few in numbers and various mentions suggest they were ever declining and a rare sight, then came the Knahaten Flu, which like other non-argonian races in Black Marsh, killed most that were left.
They are believed to be extinct. At most there are a few individuals or small groups left in remote locations. Which should not be enough to make a playable race.

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

“ThEyRe ExTiNcT” people will say that when there’s no solid concrete, written-in-stone evidence that the Lilmothiit are gone-gone. There’s even concept art for em for ESO:


ESO could absolutely implement them in an expansion and whatnot, as well as build on their lore.

I don’t want to play a ninja furry tbh.

Wuduwasa13 wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

“ThEyRe ExTiNcT” people will say that when there’s no solid concrete, written-in-stone evidence that the Lilmothiit are gone-gone. There’s even concept art for em for ESO:


ESO could absolutely implement them in an expansion and whatnot, as well as build on their lore.

I don’t want to play a ninja furry tbh.

then... don't?

For genetic diversity reasons, there are often enough those individuals who survive despite most others dying. A good example would be 14th century Europe. One of the problems is we know very little about Lilmothiit demographics, and that makes it difficult to determine how appropriate their presence should be canonically. Although, Solstice is new to the canon, and the declared extinction of the Lilmothiit might not by necessity apply the same way it does on mainland Tamriel. In nature islands tend to be know as refugees of unique species, either through isolation as a factor of biological development or the geography itself saving them from a widespread extinction elsewhere. (The last wooly mammoths for example, were on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean. Likewise the Falkland's Wolf and there's a special type of cat that lives on Sardinia or Corsica if memory serves. How far from Tamriel is Solstice supposed to be exactly? I know the Systres are shown much closer than they really are for convenience, on the world map, and perhaps resized a bit, the more proper layout presumably being the old map from Redguard.

I don't especially think Zenimax will be in the mood to create new models for an MMO this old, as cool as that could be...

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Wuduwasa13 wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

“ThEyRe ExTiNcT” people will say that when there’s no solid concrete, written-in-stone evidence that the Lilmothiit are gone-gone. There’s even concept art for em for ESO:


ESO could absolutely implement them in an expansion and whatnot, as well as build on their lore.

I don’t want to play a ninja furry tbh.

then... don't?

I…won’t 🙃