Do you plan to Subclass or stay Pure?

  • Melivar
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    I will try it out on my original character (nightblade) who I do all the quests and such with and is my crafter to see how it plays in dungeons and trials. Possibly on my Necro Tank as I might be able to fill some issue I have on the harder content.

    Overall he is a jack of all trades kinda guy so would certainly have picked up things from other people along his journey.

    Most of my characters will stay pure as it fits them.
  • ThoraxtheDark
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    Stay Pure on all my characters
    My characters will remain pure because I don't plan on playing after U46 for at least a year. You guys need to cook.

    This ain't it chief
  • ESO_player123
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    I will try subclassing on my main (planning to get rid of the Dark Magic line) and on my frost warden. I will most likely not bother with the rest of the alts.
  • whitecrow
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    Stay Pure on all my characters
    Not really sure what it is all about but I can't see myself deviating from what I am used to. I don't even play my alts because I am used to my main.
  • sans-culottes
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    Not really sure what it is all about but I can't see myself deviating from what I am used to. I don't even play my alts because I am used to my main.

    To put it succinctly: it’s about trading out one or two of your class’s skill lines for one or two other class skill lines.
    Edited by sans-culottes on April 17, 2025 8:48PM
  • ADarklore
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    Subclass on all my characters
    Fully unlocking subclassing will mean leveling up 21 skill lines.

    Assuming I'm playing still I'll be putting it on every character of mine that I am actively playing so that I can level the skill lines up faster.

    It's going to likely take me months to fully unlock it.

    After it's unlocked, I'll probably be using it on most if not all of my characters because I generally don't use a ton of class skills so it's likely most of my characters would be better off shifting one or more of the lines off towards something else.

    Leveling 21 skill lines ONLY if you don't have them already fully leveled on alts. If they're fully leveled on alts, they will be fully leveled when you select them. The only reason you'd have to level up subclass skill lines is IF you don't already have them unlocked or leveled on an alt. So if your Templar's skill lines are 50, you would access them at level 50... if your DK's skill lines are only at 30, you would access them at 30; once you get it to 50, it would be level 50 from then on. If you create a NEW character, then you would have to level your character's chosen base class skill lines to 50 again for that new character. So creating a new character as a Sorcerer, you'd have to level the Sorcerer skill lines to 50 even if you had another alt Sorcerer that was 50. Hope that all makes sense.

    As for my subclassing choice... I left a year ago because I found ALL the classes boring and stale. I'd played them all, and it was just pure boredom after almost ten years and thousands of hours. A class change token would not have brought me back to the game, however, having the ability to create my OWN class... now this has brought me back and I know there are many others out there coming back for subclassing too.
    Edited by ADarklore on April 17, 2025 8:48PM
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  • Mesite
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    I've had the West Weald chapter for ages and haven't got around to scribing yet. But I'll try sub classing. It'll be outdated by the time I get any benefit out of it though, much like scribing.
  • Freelancer_ESO
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    Subclass on all my characters
    ADarklore wrote: »
    Fully unlocking subclassing will mean leveling up 21 skill lines.

    Assuming I'm playing still I'll be putting it on every character of mine that I am actively playing so that I can level the skill lines up faster.

    It's going to likely take me months to fully unlock it.

    After it's unlocked, I'll probably be using it on most if not all of my characters because I generally don't use a ton of class skills so it's likely most of my characters would be better off shifting one or more of the lines off towards something else.

    Leveling 21 skill lines ONLY if you don't have them already fully leveled on alts. If they're fully leveled on alts, they will be fully leveled when you select them. The only reason you'd have to level up subclass skill lines is IF you don't already have them unlocked or leveled on an alt. So if your Templar's skill lines are 50, you would access them at level 50... if your DK's skill lines are only at 30, you would access them at 30; once you get it to 50, it would be level 50 from then on. If you create a NEW character, then you would have to level your character's chosen base class skill lines to 50 again for that new character. So creating a new character as a Sorcerer, you'd have to level the Sorcerer skill lines to 50 even if you had another alt Sorcerer that was 50. Hope that all makes sense.

    As for my subclassing choice... I left a year ago because I found ALL the classes boring and stale. I'd played them all, and it was just pure boredom after almost ten years and thousands of hours. A class change token would not have brought me back to the game, however, having the ability to create my OWN class... now this has brought me back and I know there are many others out there coming back for subclassing too.

    Currently on the PTS you have to level up the skill lines even if you have them on an alt fully leveled.
  • sans-culottes
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    Fully unlocking subclassing will mean leveling up 21 skill lines.

    Assuming I'm playing still I'll be putting it on every character of mine that I am actively playing so that I can level the skill lines up faster.

    It's going to likely take me months to fully unlock it.

    After it's unlocked, I'll probably be using it on most if not all of my characters because I generally don't use a ton of class skills so it's likely most of my characters would be better off shifting one or more of the lines off towards something else.

    Leveling 21 skill lines ONLY if you don't have them already fully leveled on alts. If they're fully leveled on alts, they will be fully leveled when you select them. The only reason you'd have to level up subclass skill lines is IF you don't already have them unlocked or leveled on an alt. So if your Templar's skill lines are 50, you would access them at level 50... if your DK's skill lines are only at 30, you would access them at 30; once you get it to 50, it would be level 50 from then on. If you create a NEW character, then you would have to level your character's chosen base class skill lines to 50 again for that new character. So creating a new character as a Sorcerer, you'd have to level the Sorcerer skill lines to 50 even if you had another alt Sorcerer that was 50. Hope that all makes sense.

    As for my subclassing choice... I left a year ago because I found ALL the classes boring and stale. I'd played them all, and it was just pure boredom after almost ten years and thousands of hours. A class change token would not have brought me back to the game, however, having the ability to create my OWN class... now this has brought me back and I know there are many others out there coming back for subclassing too.

    Glad the system is working for you, but this feels like a textbook example of treating a workaround as a solution.

    The problem isn’t that players want to “create their own class.” The problem is that many of the original class kits lack internal cohesion, viable scaling, or compelling support from recent updates. Subclassing doesn’t solve that. It sidesteps it. It gives players tools to avoid the stale or broken parts of classes rather than addressing those issues directly.

    So yes, people like yourself may come back. But players who actually want a strong, internally consistent class fantasy—not just a mix-and-match buffet—may be further alienated. We’ve gone from “refine your build within the class’s fantasy” to “scrap the class and start over.” That’s not evolution so much as abandonment.
  • El_Borracho
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    Subclass on all my characters
    Why would I gimp a build?
  • Desiato
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    Subclass on all my characters
    ADarklore wrote: »

    Leveling 21 skill lines ONLY if you don't have them already fully leveled on alts. If they're fully leveled on alts, they will be fully leveled when you select them. The only reason you'd have to level up subclass skill lines is IF you don't already have them unlocked or leveled on an alt. So if your Templar's skill lines are 50, you would access them at level 50... if your DK's skill lines are only at 30, you would access them at 30; once you get it to 50, it would be level 50 from then on. If you create a NEW character, then you would have to level your character's chosen base class skill lines to 50 again for that new character. So creating a new character as a Sorcerer, you'd have to level the Sorcerer skill lines to 50 even if you had another alt Sorcerer that was 50. Hope that all makes sense.

    Currently on the PTS you have to level up the skill lines even if you have them on an alt fully leveled.

    I just confirmed this is correct. I think having the class skill line achievements only unlock the skill line for the purpose of subclassing.

    That was my experience at least. When I first joined this PTS cycle, I only logged in with one character, unlocking its skill lines. While doing the subclass quest, I was then given the ability to unlock 3 skill lines from other classes. Once unlocked, they could then be used to replace an existing class skill line for that character.

    After, I logged into each of my characters unlocking the relevant skill lines that then became available to all other subclass characters.

    However, all subclass skill lines start at level 1 and need to be levelled to 50 once as a subclass to have access to all abilities. This is the time sink component ZOS feels they must add to each new chapter/season.

    Edited by Desiato on April 17, 2025 9:29PM
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  • Dojohoda
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    I don't know yet. I will have to read and study about the different classes to figure out what might go where. I know nightblade, but not enough about the other classes. When I decide to bring out my tank or healer, I have to open the skill lines and refresh my memory. 😅
    Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
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  • amig186
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    Subclass on all my characters
    No choice really. I only hope I'll be able to salvage my templar, I don't feel like changing mains again.
    PC EU
  • Xarc
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    Some of each
    Anyway, what is purity when you are a body without a soul
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  • RebornV3x
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    Subclass on all my characters
    Having some form of Hardened Ward, Arc Beam or Breath of Life on all my characters will happen
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    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • Ragnarok0130
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    Stay Pure on all my characters
    Left to my own devices I'll stay pure but if my raid lead tells me to subclass I'll salute and move out with a subclass because I love raiding.
  • fizzylu
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    Subclass on all my characters
    I'm not sure if it'll actually end up being this way, but this is what I'm planning since I don't love any ESO class entirely and have stuff I'm dying to rid myself of when it comes to all of them.
  • carlos424
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    Subclass on all my characters
    Ingenon wrote: »
    Depends upon what gets released to live. Right now I'm using easy to play Arcanist alts and One Bar Oakensoul alts for all of my trials/dungeons/overland. If the 171K parse on PTS I saw (Grave Lord/Herald of the Tome/Assassination) ends up making it to live, then all my current DPS builds will be way under performing and probably unwanted for playing with others. I will need a new easy to play build that doesn't require 120 actions per minute (APM) and performs closer to the new top builds. Hopefully there will be a new easy to play build, otherwise ZOS may have designed me out of ESO.

    That Arcanist setup is actually easier than the current, if that’s even possible. (Fewer apm). There are 2 skills that you slot and basically don’t use, siphon and relentless focus. So, those two along with two banners that you don’t have to touch. It’s all about the passives. But I’m sure some things will change. Also, exhausting fatecarver is basically unsustainable without parse food. So we’ll see what happens.
  • old_scopie1945
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    Due to the fact that some of my characters will become useless, I feel that I will be forced to subclass them further down the line. That does not mean that I am happy about it, because I'm not. The ones that I don't want to put on the back burner, I will probably have to work around it and use more non class and scribed based skills.
    Edited by old_scopie1945 on April 17, 2025 10:52PM
  • metheglyn
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    Stay Pure on all my characters
    I've no interest in subclassing. I had no interest in scribing either. It's not fun for me to "create" skills or classes or whatever itch these two systems are trying to scratch.
  • AlterBlika
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    Subclass on all my characters
    For solo content I'm replacing useless skill lines for sure (siphoning on nb for example). For group I'll use whatever is giving me the best results.
  • Wereswan
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    Stay Pure on all my characters
    metheglyn wrote: »
    I've no interest in subclassing. I had no interest in scribing either. It's not fun for me to "create" skills or classes or whatever itch these two systems are trying to scratch.

    I can see the potential of Scribing for filling in gaps in some class toolkits (like my Dragonknight healer.) If I need a very specific thing and a class doesn't have it, it seems useful—whereas "just swap something for Restoring Light/Green Balance/Curative Runes" just feels like playing Templar/Warden/Arcanist with extra steps.
  • Twohothardware
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    Subclass on all my characters
    Subclassing is no different than like we did when bringing in new skills and skill lines from the Psijic Order, Scribing, ect. It's just using existing skills from other classes and allowing our characters to become more powerful DPS, tanks, healers than ever before.
  • Thysbe
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    I will build one char into a subclass meta for my dungeon trifectay prog group. Not out of interest, I detest it, but to support my regular group with as high DPS as possible since HMs will be tuned according to the new ceilings.

    For the rest - I couldn´t care less - the whole subclassing discussion left me in a state of resignation.
    Edited by Thysbe on April 17, 2025 11:29PM
  • SeaGtGruff
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    I typically use weapon skills rather than class skills, so for some characters it probably wouldn't matter either way. But I do use class skills rather than weapon skills on some characters. I plan to try it both ways to see what strikes my fancy. I don't obsess over my DPS, and don't mind long fights as long as I'm just tanky enough to stay alive, so for me it won't be a question of trying to min-max everything and come up with the most optimal combination. I'm just in it for the fun.
    I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
  • shadyjane62
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    Stay Pure on all my characters
    I am Templar. Been Templar 11 years and for whatever time I have left in Tamriel I will be a Templar.

    I may never play a level 50 character after this is implemented but I would rather play low level or gimped than be some hideous hybrid.
  • Hapexamendios
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    I'll create a Frankenstein build then see if I like it.
  • bmnoble
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    I will experiment, with some ideas, more for role play, screw around builds than anything for end game, if I don't like the changes I will switch back via the armoury.
  • Celticmagick
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    Other: leave the game, play something else.

    I'm in this boat, honestly. I hate to have to go this route but if the past gives foresight of the future, staying pure class won't be a viable option. I've already seen posts about how the DK and Sorc are having some major changes at base level for the sake of subclassing. As a NB one of our most used abilities is getting a nerf but they're sugarcoating it and distracting us by finally removing the permaglow. ZOS is notorious for breaking things and then never getting things right afterwards
  • AzuraFan
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    On my main: Pure.

    On my alts: I'm willing to experiment.

    But...I play my main 99% of the time and have zero interest in subclassing with that character. If she's no longer viable in normal group content, or the skills she uses are nerfed/changed beyond recognition, I'll exit the game.
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