Do you plan to Subclass or stay Pure?

Zallion

Stay Pure on all my characters

PvP main.

I find the idea insulting to the integrity of the game. The game was built with a class system as its foundation for over a decade. To me, throwing that out the window ruins a lot of what I very much have enjoyed about this game playing since launch. The balance whiplash and class redesigns we are about to face will be too much for me to really enjoy it anymore. I feel like they had it in such a decent spot relatively to the past. If I wanted to use another classes skills, I would play that class. That’s how and why we have alts. I’m all for more choice and more abilities and more variety. But I am not for homogenizing the classes. Metas will be more strictly defined instead of defined by classes. PvP is going to be a nightmare. Utilizing the system will be the only way to keep up and compete, and I don’t think I’ll really stick around unless they do a great job balancing it. For some weird reason I feel like I don’t have too much faith in their ability to balance this.

Wereswan

Stay Pure on all my characters

SilverBride wrote: »

I was undecided on whether or not to purchase the Season. This decided it for me.

If my oldest character, the Matriarch of my account, is not going to be able to perform without giving up her identity, well then preserving her identity is my priority. I will not purchase content she may not be able to succeed in.

I have a weakness for cute pets. It's how ZOS always gets me (last year's FOMO wolf is on one of my Wardens.)

This year, I'm not feeling it.

Juju_beans

I used to play another game where, after a decade, they made big changes to the classes.
One by one I stopped playing my alts....because of the changes.
Then I was left with just my main and after a while didn't feel like the character I had created and leveled and played all those years.

So I'm iffy about this change.

Koshka

Subclass on all my characters

ArchMikem wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

Other: leave the game, play something else.

Subtle "I'm leaving" post.

I view subclassing as your character learning new abilities/magic, which is completely Lore friendly. I'll like to see what I can fit into my characters.

It's not a question of it being lore friendly or not.
The problem is, you will be severely gimping your character by not using it. Which is, by the way, not the case in single-player TES games: you can easily play as a pure build in them.
This might not be a big deal for those who exclusively play overland quests and normal dungeons, but vet content in ESO is VERY dps-dependent and having more dps is always a good thing. This basically means that players who do not multiclass will be at a huge disadvantage.

Muizer

I'm just not sure what content I'd be playing with it. Solo arenas maybe. Those are the only places that provide enough resistance to be able to express a multi class identity in combat without having to worry about peer pressures nullifying the 'play as you want' mantra.

darvaria

4. Other. I don't plan on playing enough to use it.

Sheridan

Stay Pure on all my characters

I only have one character so I guess I will stay pure.

Kiyakotari

Some of each

I'll definitely be doing some subclassing, but it's more for personal character headcanon/RP reasons than performance. I'll probably end up doing some on other characters for prog and group play purposes, but a lot of my characters, I likely won't bother. But then, I also have over 90 characters, when you add up the multiple accounts and the fact that I play both NA and EU, so I've got plenty to play around with.

sans-culottes

Kiyakotari wrote: »

I'll definitely be doing some subclassing, but it's more for personal character headcanon/RP reasons than performance. I'll probably end up doing some on other characters for prog and group play purposes, but a lot of my characters, I likely won't bother. But then, I also have over 90 characters, when you add up the multiple accounts and the fact that I play both NA and EU, so I've got plenty to play around with.

@Kiyakotari, that’s impressive and, honestly, kind of mind-boggling. I struggle to keep track of my main and a couple of alts, so I can’t imagine managing ninety characters across platforms and regions. Do you use spreadsheets or just rely on memory?

RobDaCool

I am really not sure yet. I only have one character. I am guessing once you subclass, you can't revert back.

AvalonRanger

Stay Pure on all my characters

ToT, Scribing skill line.....and this subclass.

Dev too much ignore player's interest.

Wereswan

Stay Pure on all my characters

AvalonRanger wrote: »

ToT, Scribing skill line.....and this subclass.

Dev too much ignore player's interest.

Honestly, now that I'm regularly sitting around waiting for trial groups to fill so we can start, I can understand what ToT was intended to do, at least. We could argue about the execution, but the idea was nice.

Icy_Waffles

TaSheen wrote: »

Other: leave the game, play something else.

This is where I’m at. Cancelled my subscription, and letting it go- I have 16 characters I like how they are different and I am really not looking forward to this change so I think it’s time to go

TaSheen

sans-culottes wrote: »

Kiyakotari wrote: »

I'll definitely be doing some subclassing, but it's more for personal character headcanon/RP reasons than performance. I'll probably end up doing some on other characters for prog and group play purposes, but a lot of my characters, I likely won't bother. But then, I also have over 90 characters, when you add up the multiple accounts and the fact that I play both NA and EU, so I've got plenty to play around with.

@Kiyakotari, that’s impressive and, honestly, kind of mind-boggling. I struggle to keep track of my main and a couple of alts, so I can’t imagine managing ninety characters across platforms and regions. Do you use spreadsheets or just rely on memory?

As with Kiyakotari, I've got multiple accounts and many characters (really, to me they're not alts, they're just "my girls", each with her own backstory and raison d'etre).

I use spreadsheets, but just to track gameplay stuff. I don't need them to keep track of who is where in what quest or such. Since it's quite likely I'm taking a long break, it still won't matter - they'll be where I left off on them if I come back, and I will pick them up at that point.

Dragonredux

Some of each

I haven't played in a while, kind of jumping in and out since all my friends quit after u35.

At this rate, I'll probably have one tank, one dps, one healer.

All the rest of the characters will be either be used for role play or memes.

Ragnarok0130

Stay Pure on all my characters

gc0018 wrote: »

The problem should be, will we be forced to subclass? if you want to raid or pvp, stay pure may simply became a joke.

Exactly. I'm hoping that we can use the armory system to only have a subclass build for when I want it and to be able to stay a pure class in other armory builds. Does anyone know if that is possible?

Ragnarok0130

Stay Pure on all my characters

Wereswan wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

ToT, Scribing skill line.....and this subclass.

Dev too much ignore player's interest.

Honestly, now that I'm regularly sitting around waiting for trial groups to fill so we can start, I can understand what ToT was intended to do, at least. We could argue about the execution, but the idea was nice.

And why exactly are we waiting around for trial groups to fill nowadays? I recall instant DPS fills in U34 then something happened....

PDarkBHood

Subclass on all my characters

Really looking forward to subclassing. What I do need is more Armory system slots. I only have 1 character that I play and I have a use all my armory slots. When subclassing arrives, I can see that I will be needing more Armory slots too keep and use alternative subclasses, assuming the subclasses will be saved with the armory system. I am thinking if they increase the Armory system to 15 (20 slots would be amazing) then I could have multiple subclasses along with my other builds.

Please add more armory slots to the Armory System!!

Danikat

Some of each

I'm going to do what makes sense for me and my characters. Some of them will stick with the class they've got, others will make some changes.

I'm going to swap the Aedric Spear line on my Templar for the Nightblade's Assassination line, because the more subtle attacks will suit the character better, and I want to give my Nightblade better self-healing skills (but I'm not sure what yet). My Dragonknight tank and my Necromancer/vampire will probably stick with what they've got. The rest I'm not sure about, they'll keep what they've got until I feel like I need to make changes, then I might experiment with swapping in some other things.

Some of my characters also have builds specifically for conforming to what people probably expect from me in groups (usually more focused on a role instead of being a mix of things) and I might change some of them as well if the meta shifts. I'm not that bothered about those however, they're purely for practical purposes when it's me trying to get things done rather than really being anything to do with my characters.

Wereswan

Stay Pure on all my characters

Ragnarok0130 wrote: »

Wereswan wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

ToT, Scribing skill line.....and this subclass.

Dev too much ignore player's interest.

Honestly, now that I'm regularly sitting around waiting for trial groups to fill so we can start, I can understand what ToT was intended to do, at least. We could argue about the execution, but the idea was nice.

And why exactly are we waiting around for trial groups to fill nowadays? I recall instant DPS fills in U34 then something happened....

Perhaps I should've specified I'm doing normal trials, where "waiting for groups to fill" usually means "group lead asking us all to check in our guilds to see if we can find a tank."

Elsonso

SilverBride wrote: »

Do you plan to Subclass or stay Pure?

I expect that I will largely ignore the multiclass features they are adding.
Similar to the scribing, which I have successfully ignored since it launched.

I have not purchased the 2025 Content Pass. Too expensive for what we get, which I think would fit comfortably in a 3000-3500 Crown DLC. Gold Road was bad this way. It was barely worth it for the end of year sales, and the Content Pass is a whole level below Gold Road. I have no idea if they are going to offer discounted content passes later in the year, but they need to be deeply discounted.

No reason to stop playing, though. 2025 is just a lot of "meh" with a side order of "yawn".

tomofhyrule

Some of each

I've actually been rethinking a bunch of my characters who I thought would be naturals, and I'm kinda interested in keeping them as is at this point.

Subclassing is great for people who want it. I just don't want it to be something 'mandatory.' Yes, nothing in the game is expressly mandatory, but if there's one setup that's doing literally 50% more damage than another, then that's a de facto mandatory playstyle.

Pure classes should be different from subclassed builds. Not way weaker.

MasterSpatula

I just don't know. I've been hoping for years they'd actually make non-pet Sorc viable--if not equal to than at least genuinely close to pet Sorc. I don't see any excuse for not doing this, yet they have shown no interest.

Now, to keep Sorc skills from being too powerful on other class's bars, they're performing updates that actually make non-pet Sorc weaker. We're talking willfully doing the literal, exact, utter opposite of the only thing that they should be doing to the class. They're weakening the weak, with full knowledge that they're doing so. It's maddening.

All I want for my main is to be a pure non-pet Sorc and be completely viable at that. ZOS has made it plain that if I want to play non-pet, I need to grab another class's bar. It's like they're actively trying to drive me from the game.

So either I engage with a feature that further complicates a system I already consider wildly overcomplicated, I walk away, or I see my already-excessively-weakened favorite spec further weakened. It's not an easy choice.

Erickson9610

Some of each

Just for the record, the Expert Summoner passive was just changed on the PTS to give Max Stamina and Max Magicka at all times — even without pets — and to also give Max Health when you do have a pet. That should be a buff for non-pet Sorcerers while also encouraging you to further lean into the theme of the skill line.

Cooperharley

Subclass on all my characters

Big thing is outside of daily writs or maybe grinding achievements quickly, this update largely negates the reason to have lots of alts if you’re able to do all in one.

I have a tank, healer, and dps. I’m excited to mix and match but had I had like 4-6 dps characters for instance, I’d never touch the other 5 because I can just save the different builds and playstyles in the armory and I don’t have to worry then about armory slots not being account wide (console player here)

Erickson9610

Some of each

Cooperharley wrote: »

Big thing is outside of daily writs or maybe grinding achievements quickly, this update largely negates the reason to have lots of alts if you’re able to do all in one.

This is mainly why I'm so excited. I hardly touch my other characters — some are reserved for other PvP playstyles/builds than my main, and others are there for "RP" reasons. I spend the majority of my time on my main character who can do everything — and with Subclassing, my main character will be able to do even more!

Elvenheart

Some of each

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I've actually been rethinking a bunch of my characters who I thought would be naturals, and I'm kinda interested in keeping them as is at this point.

Subclassing is great for people who want it. I just don't want it to be something 'mandatory.' Yes, nothing in the game is expressly mandatory, but if there's one setup that's doing literally 50% more damage than another, then that's a de facto mandatory playstyle.

Pure classes should be different from subclassed builds. Not way weaker.

If it does release with one build that does 50% more damage, I hope I can figure it out in time before they fix it so I can try soloing vet dungeons for monster masks until then! 😂 👺

AngryPenguin

I'll probably quit playing if subclassing becomes mandatory to remain competitive. I will for sure quit PvP if vengeance mode becomes the only option.

Daoin

i am happy with all my character with or without thier flaws as is, so no changes for those, as eso contines to make the rules up as they go on at a more and more enhanced rate so they will be staying the same (atleast untouched by myself, but rail-roaded by creators into different thing all too often anyway)but you did not add the option to choose to make 1 new toon to add to the roster that would adopt the the new system which is what i am going to do. and that will fill out my roster nicely to 10 chars, it can be known by my other chars as 'the outsider' or 'bit of this bit of that'. quick mention for some of the posts i see or friends that are quitting now, no point after so long may aswell just ride out the rollercoaster

ghastley

Some of each

The characters with a strong class identity will stay that way, but some are more defined by their weapon lines, and multi-classing will allow for changed passives.