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Slimecraw no longer gives extra crit chance with 1 piece
Cellentel
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Slimecraw’s tooltip is now:
(1 item) Add 657 Critical Chance
(2 items) Add 113 Critical Chance
(2 items) Gain Minor Berserk at all times, increasing your damage done by 5%
It’s hard to be too worked up about this one since it never made sense that it was an automatically better 1 piece than everything else, but it would be nice for this stuff to be in the patch notes.
(1 item) Add 657 Critical Chance
(2 items) Add 113 Critical Chance
(2 items) Gain Minor Berserk at all times, increasing your damage done by 5%
It’s hard to be too worked up about this one since it never made sense that it was an automatically better 1 piece than everything else, but it would be nice for this stuff to be in the patch notes.
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coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wow, between this and banner, I wonder what else got ninja nerfedHoping for more playable races.
Hoping the game and it's team remains alive.
BRING BACK MAGICKA WEREWOLVES TO PVE11 -
amig186✭✭✭✭✭
✭I assumed the 1pc was better because the 2pc is kinda useless. Looks like we can't have nice thingsPC EU16 -
Sordidfairytale✭✭✭✭✭Would have been better to give the rest of the one piece crit bonuses the 109 point increase to critical chance and then given Slimecraw another 219 point increase bonus to the 2 piece.The Vegemite Knight6 -
XSTRONG✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wow I really wonder what person in Zos came up with to nerf the 1 pc slimecraw.
Nerf the 1 pc and buff the 2 pc would seem like a more clever thing to do.4 -
Vylaera✭✭✭✭✭
✭This would be fine if they made the 2pc bonus not useless. Give it something like a unique 8% damage buff when you deal critical damage or something rather than just a named buff you already get from a ton of other sources and is worse than just running a different 1pc monster set bonus in your other head/shoulder slotVy • lae • ra | Fan of all things Vampiric | PC NA | Accurate World Map artist | Immaculate Reshade author2 -
ApoAlaia✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »So is there no point in just wearing the head now?
Still gives +crit, is just not any better than any other 1p monster set that gives +crit.
I thought the change would be pretty much universally loved in this forum given how many times the words 'balance' and 'outlier' crop up.6 -
RandomKodiak✭✭✭✭✭Another pointless nerf for no reason. I think whoever is in charge of set balance is out to see if they can be the most hated developer of all time. There was no good reason for this anymore than there was to kill Stormfist or change Relequen. It's their game they have the right to change what they want and how but many of the "balance" changes or "fixes" in the last few years just seem spiteful.10
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✭✭I mean it’s a logical nerf. Hard to complain about this one. There wasn’t any good reason that just one monster set had a better one piece than the rest.3 -
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✭✭I think this may have been to account for some other critical chance increases elsewhere, but Minor Berserk is so easily sourced now that Slimecraw will be pointless to use as a two-piece. The opportunity cost is too great when there are better, but just as easily accessible, options.
Maybe change the minor berserk to something more useful. Major Brutality could be interesting for some builds that can't pre-buff.1 -
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✭✭Rest in piece my scaly friend 💔 😢 🙏 🪦
(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭✭✭✭✭CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »
Was that a ninja nerf, though? The particular post in the notes thread containing the bit about cost reduction glyphs was last edited at 12:45pm Eastern yesterday, so it was certainly included by then. I remember reading it when I looked through the notes at about 5pm.0 -
Sluggy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Guys this doesn't have to be the case.
I remember when they tried to do the same thing to the monster sets that gave a line of stam and mag for the 1pc (now that I think about it, how much do I want to bet it's the same person trying to make this change
). First thing I did was go on to the forums and explain why that was utterly pointless. And you know what. It worked! It can be the same deal here!
Simply put, the two-piece isn't all that hot these days so people mostly only use it for the 1pc bonus when they really have nothing else better and they want more damage on a crit-oritented build. That's a lot of 'if's in there. Removing this bonus on the 1pc means almost every player in the game is going to insta decon it. Another set, dead and buried.
The only ones that will hang on to it after such a change will those that truly don't know any better, love the look of the helmet, or are just starting out and it's the only thing they've got.
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AlterBlika✭✭✭✭✭There's a monster set that grants major resolve (mighty chudan) that has 1.2k health bonus on 2 pc. Slimecraw should've never had buffed 1 pc to begin with, but I think they need to buff its 2 pc. 100 bonus crit just seems a bit off when mighty chudan literally has an extra health line.1 -
MurkyWetWolf198✭✭✭✭To be fair, it’s not worthless now, just even. For PvE DDs running it for the one piece, they’ll have no reason to deconstruct it. It’s still tied for best 1-piece, and has no disadvantage/advantage over other 1-piece crit monster sets3 -
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They just took some crit chance from the 1 pc and added that to the 2 pc, I wouldnt call that much of a buff. People that are using the 2 pc didnt get a buff.4 -
Finedaible✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AlterBlika wrote: »There's a monster set that grants major resolve (mighty chudan) that has 1.2k health bonus on 2 pc. Slimecraw should've never had buffed 1 pc to begin with, but I think they need to buff its 2 pc. 100 bonus crit just seems a bit off when mighty chudan literally has an extra health line.
Chudan is in almost the same boat as slimecraw I think since it's a common effect, but Chudan does have a Major effect not a minor. Slimecraw would need to receive a major effect, or a rarer minor effect for it to have value as a 2 piece set. Minor Slayer or minor Brutality would be useful for some builds but wouldn't add any additional power creep to organized group play.0 -
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They just took some crit chance from the 1 pc and added that to the 2 pc, I wouldnt call that much of a buff. People that are using the 2 pc didnt get a buff.
They made it so the 1 piece isn't better than any other 1 piece crit set. The 2 piece is still more crit than any other setup.
That said, with multiclassing I'm seeing people at 75-85% crit in the parses shown. I know it's with highland, but still. There's a lot more crit chance available this patch.0 -
mdjessup4906✭✭✭✭✭Guess I'll be seeing less random vets going to Wayrest for the helm now. I'm sick to death of wayrest lol but still a dumb change. What's wrong with 1 piece being uniquely good? No one outside of optimized trial groups are at critical cap anyway.4
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✭mdjessup4906 wrote: »Guess I'll be seeing less random vets going to Wayrest for the helm now. I'm sick to death of wayrest lol but still a dumb change. What's wrong with 1 piece being uniquely good? No one outside of optimized trial groups are at critical cap anyway.
Exactly this. There's nothing wrong with having a single item be it's own unique thing. It wasn't overpowered. It wasn't doing anything that stagnated builds. I don't think I've ever once seen someone complain about it. Being what amounts to a 'unique' item is fine, desirable even, in my opinion. I think more 1pc monster bonuses should lean in to this in fact.5
