drip_fromtheinkwell wrote: »

I haven't been able to jump in, but from what I know of arcanist, this supposed nerf will do nothing to tamp down their power. They already have good resource regeneration-- so what will that increased cost do to them? You don't usually have more than six important enemies in a fight, so who cares about that limit? Why increase the power when it's already the best spammable (ish) in the game? Am I missing something with this?

Banner is also nerfed, Zena's is nerfed, damage passive nerfed.

Edited because scholarship wasn't touched, but banner got turned into a drain instead of a recovery debuff.

sarahthes wrote: »

Also banner nerf that wasn't in the patch notes.

they removed the ability cost increase?

Overall looks like a pretty substantial nerf, at least for me.

Someone more skilled might be able to sustain fatecarver with the banner drain and the increased cost alas sadly I won't.

Chances are I will have to drop banner and the coral mini-game might be beyond me now, may need to change to ansuul.

Haven't looked into subclassing yet, maybe the idea is to 'subclass' to make up for the nerfs and we'll have to sub DK now or something.

Hopefully the theorycrafters will have a look and come up with something that doesn't require me to grow new extremities to at least be back to where I am now in terms of 'power' once the patch hits.

drip_fromtheinkwell wrote: »

sarahthes wrote: »

Also banner nerf that wasn't in the patch notes.

The cost is negated by hitting one synergy, from the undaunted skill line.

The cost is every 2 seconds.

I just checked one of my recent logs and the average synergy cpm from the very best dds in the entire game is about 11. Which is a synergy every 5.5 seconds. Arcs were more like one every 10 seconds. Again, from some of the literal best players in the game (members of Limitless and Genesis).

All that said, I just saw a 145K arcanist parse where they basically only pressed flail and beam. So you can probably sustain it.

Relentless focus, incap, and GLS were the only non arc class skills used.

Varana wrote: »

drip_fromtheinkwell wrote: »

The point stands that it's not a significant cost.

Ehh... it is? The point does not stand?

sarahthes wrote: »

All that said, I just saw a 145K arcanist parse where they basically only pressed flail and beam. So you can probably sustain it.

Relentless focus, incap, and GLS were the only non arc class skills used.

Oh great, even less stuff to do when arcabeaming.

I saw a plar arc cro with a 183K parse.

LOL what is this patch.

I'm upset by the nerf honestly. I haven't used an arcanist before and I was excited to use their laser beam against big monster crowds! I wonder if they could make it to where the target cap is like 12 for Monsters and 6 for players. I think my wall of elements probably hits more enemies than the arc beam now. Still eager to try it, most dungeons and IA probably don't have huge swathes of enemies. But still. Laser beam.

Major_Toughness wrote: »

yNiriel wrote: »

Do you have the link of this parse?

"I saw a plar arc cro with a 183K parse"

Removed their name as it's not mine & idk if they want messages. Also probably will be improved on as PTS goes on.

There is a bug with solar barrage however. So these numbers will not stand.