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With Console versions delayed till December pls take this game away and relaunch in 6 months to a yr

felixgamingx1
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There's a serious lack of after game content, PvP is not as exciting as it looked, too many bugs, patches keep breaking new things. Take your time ZOS please Re launch. VR is pure grind I'm paying $16.04 monthly so I can grind?
  • txfeinbergsub17_ESO
    Sorry, plenty of us are actually enjoying the game. If you want to quit, feel free to do so, but taking away the game for all of us because you have a problem with it is rather selfish.
  • Arreyanne
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    I would even let them keep my 14.99 plus tax if they did that
  • Endolith
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    If you don't enjoy it don't pay. Simple fix.
  • michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO
    If they made leveling from 1 to 50 half as tough as it is to level Veteran ranks, then they wouldn't need these Vet ranks.

    They could have made it a true open world game, instead of making you grind two more factions from scratch. Tough content could have been mixed in with easier content throughout Tamriel. And there is no reason why players shouldn't be able to travel anywhere. Within reason.

    In Lotro, if you were level 5 and wanted to run all the way to Isengard, there is nothing stopping you. You might want to hire a body guard, though. Because from Bree, you'd have to go through Lonelands, Trollshaws, south through to Eregion, and then to Enedwaith, and from there to Dunland and then through the Gap of Rohan.

    In ESO, not only do they force feed you new locations, but at Vet 1 they even have you back looting entry level provisions. Ingredients you can't even use.

    Talk about feeling demoted. Just another kick in the teeth from this game.
  • ebunts14_ESO
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    I run my low level characters in zones that are much higher than me. My level 14 character just went to coldharbour, level 40, s zone or higher. Lotr is not the o lying game you can do this in. Also ask all the level 3 bots in higher areas.
    Edited by ebunts14_ESO on May 14, 2014 6:29AM
  • KhajitFurTrader
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    In Lotro, if you were level 5 and wanted to run all the way to Isengard, there is nothing stopping you. You might want to hire a body guard, though. Because from Bree, you'd have to go through Lonelands, Trollshaws, south through to Eregion, and then to Enedwaith, and from there to Dunland and then through the Gap of Rohan.

    And the point of doing this is what?

    Apart from being aggroed by every MOB and its uncle half a map away (bodyguard or not), apart from being ported back to a rally point in a region of your actual level range upon your swift and frequent death, this is definitely not a "feature" that's worth advertising. One could even get the impression that the devs intentionally implemented such hurdles in order to discourage behaviour like that. It may be a "soft" limit, that could be circumvented by the daring or the terminally bored, but a limit it is nonetheless. There is no viable gameplay to be had from it.
    In ESO, not only do they force feed you new locations, but at Vet 1 they even have you back looting entry level provisions. Ingredients you can't even use.

    Well, all major MMOs have some way or another of funneling players into specific regions, depending on some attribute, be it level or whatever. That's not new. What's new is that suddenly, it's all ESO's fault. Talk about being biased.
    Talk about feeling demoted. Just another kick in the teeth from this game.

    Let me repeat the mantra: no-one is forced to do something they don't like for whatever reason.

    Would that only be true for all aspects of life.
    Edited by KhajitFurTrader on May 14, 2014 7:06AM
  • Zeeed
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    I am Vet 10 from questing. I think it was best levelling experience in mmo i had so far. But they should increse option of leveling by dungeons and pvp for people that dont ike questing.
    For me Eso is quest based game :D
  • Darlon
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    go away for a year and come back then if you don't like it...
  • ShintaiDK
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    Sorry, plenty of us are actually enjoying the game. If you want to quit, feel free to do so, but taking away the game for all of us because you have a problem with it is rather selfish.

    ^^ This. Fully agree.
  • Daendur
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    i actually love the possibility to do quests in other factions' zone and explore the whole world.
    At lvl 12 I went to The Rift (lvl 40 map) and did a lvl 42 quest, than a tiger saw me and i died, but i could do that.
    So i don't agree with OP.
  • Arundo
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    No thanks, I enjoy the game as it is. I do not agree with the OP at all. Sure there are bugs but they are hunted on a weekly base.
  • AlexDougherty
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    There's a serious lack of after game content, PvP is not as exciting as it looked, too many bugs, patches keep breaking new things. Take your time ZOS please Re launch. VR is pure grind I'm paying $16.04 monthly so I can grind?
    You do realise that the console won't make any difference to PVP since they'll be on their own server.
    Pretty sure all after game content will be in the Veteran game, so it'll still be a grind.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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  • iaintoff
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    To the op

    Please take yourself away and consider a relaunch in six months.

    If they roll this game back I'm going wildstar and will nee er return.

    Cheers.
  • Loxy37
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    Short answer: No
    long Answer: Hell No!
  • ShintaiDK
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    A relaunch/rollback to start would make 99.x% of the players quit. And then the OP would whine about empty zones instead.
  • steveb16_ESO46
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    While I strongly believe that releasing the game in this state my have fatally damaged its chances of remaining a sub game, I am enjoying the game a lot. Despite the bugs, despite the bots and despite the lack lustre support.
  • Ojustaboo
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    While I strongly believe that releasing the game in this state my have fatally damaged its chances of remaining a sub game, I am enjoying the game a lot. Despite the bugs, despite the bots and despite the lack lustre support.

    The danger is the suits making gut reaction decisions based on either people that only played beta or the likes of Angry Joe (who according to his ex guild mates on Reddit didn't get much higher than level 15 and spent the majority of his time in Cyrodiil).

    There are problems sure, but for ever person that posts a post like the OP, many more disagree, and the vast majority of those that have subscribed, never visit here, they are too busy having fun.

    If it went F2P, all the problems we now see will be amplified greatly, plus for many it has become a sick trendy passion to run down any good well advertised mmo, the last thing we need is them playing for nothing and slagging it off constantly in chat etc, f2p will be the worst thing that could happen to this game and will cause many currently happy players to leave.

    Hopefully the suits can see the long term potential and give the devs time to fix problems.

    Mind you, things like taking 40 mins sometimes to log into Cyrodiil is beginning to wear down otherwise happy players in my guild and need to be addressed asap.
  • Turelus
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    There's a serious lack of after game content
    New end game content is in development and will be released soon. No game will ever managed to produce content at the speed the playerbase can absorb it at.
    PvP is not as exciting as it looked
    Create a post with a constructive breakdown of why it's not as fun as it looked and what you feel could be done to improve it.
    too many bugs, patches keep breaking new things.
    Welcome to MMO gaming, this is the same in every MMO. Bugs will be fixed, many already have been, new ones will be created, they'll get fixed as well.
    Take your time ZOS please Re launch.
    What exactly do you mean by relaunch? Take the game back into beta, turn the servers off and remove all the people currently sending in bug reports? The state of the game right now is not ideal but there are enough happy players paying the sub which allows ZOS to pay their development teams whilst having millions of players able to locate bugs for them.
    VR is pure grind I'm paying $16.04 monthly so I can grind?
    Once again welcome to MMO gaming, MMO's are a grind, it's how they keep you around paying. If you don't have content to grind you will run into your first issue, no content to do.
    Also how are you playing the game? If you're ignoring quest dialogues and blizting quests for levels then it probably will feel like a grind, if you're playing the areas of the game you enjoy, listening to story and exploring (and enjoy that) the game seems less grindy, pay attention to the fun not the XP bar.

    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • Zeeed
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    If this goes F2P i will quit hate f2p mmos i spend to much money on those !!!
  • felixgamingx1
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    Paying for a buggy game should not be considered ok by any means unfortunately those supporting the game get satisfied with any **** you throw at them. End game content should have been included already...
  • Ojustaboo
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    Paying for a buggy game should not be considered ok by any means unfortunately those supporting the game get satisfied with any **** you throw at them. End game content should have been included already...

    In a perfect world, you are 100% right.

    But the world of software is never and can never be perfect.

    Occasionally a software product might get lucky and release virtually bug free, but that is a rarity.

    If we want to play mmos, we have to simply accept that when they are first released, there will usually be a period where major problems exist. The alternative would be to never ever have any new mmos produced as it's impossible to correctly predict what will happen when it goes live and the masses get onto the servers.

    There is only so much time the people funding a game will keep pouring money without a release date, there comes a point where they have to give a date and release it at that time.

    If they had postponed it for another 6 months, still many of the problems would not have come to light until it went live, that is the nature of such a product.

    Many of us have had an overall pleasant experience, I am loving this game and haver had zero desire to play anything else. yes the bugs and Cyrodiil load times are extremely annoying, but the overall enjoyment still beats any other game I have.

    It's not a case of letting companies take advantage of us, it's simply a case that if we want to play these sorts of games,, sadly this sort of thing will usually always happen, and if when it does, we instantly vote with our wallets, such games will last 5 mins before being closed down and no company will ever want to invest in another one.

    However, I still think that silence is any companies biggest enemy. And the few posts by Zenimax on here is almost silence. If people are communicated to properly, people are usually very forgiving and want to work towards getting things perfect, if companies hide behind an almost total wall of silence, this just gets people really angry.

    Many companies for some reason choose the silence route, I have seen companies loose 1000s of customers using this approach.

    On the other hand I've seen a company release something that turned out to have major bugs, and the devs were so active in the forums, explaining temp workarounds, holding their hands up and admitting they got it wrong, keeping people informed of the progress, that rather than them loosing custom over the fiasco, the exact opposite happened and people were so pleased at their efforts and communications, that people were saying they would be customers for life.
  • Turelus
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    Paying for a buggy game should not be considered ok by any means unfortunately those supporting the game get satisfied with any **** you throw at them. End game content should have been included already...
    I have been here since day one of early access and the game is in a much better place now. They're doing one or two patches a week fixing quests and other issues and the 1.1 PTS patch notes have a mass of game fixes in.

    Now if they hadn't have done any of the above I would be annoyed and walk away, but they're actively and successfully working to fix issues.
    There is end game content, VR dungeons, Zones and PVP. As I said in my previous post if you have issues with current content make constructive posts and work with the development teams to improve the game, if you're not happy with the game cancel your sub, walk and show them.

    You have been a long and committed forums member and it would suck to see you go but creating rant threads doesn't help you or the game.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • Thalmar
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    I am really enjoying game so far, if you don't feel yourself mandotary to reach so called end-game, you will not feel like grinding. A small suggestion, maybe you should take a break 6 months or a year and come back to have more content. I really like how people giving their opinions as facts.
    P.S: Every game will be in a better condition and have more content 1 year after release, this is the exciting thing about games, they add more content and polish it, it is fun to watch and be a part of it when games evolve.
    Edited by Thalmar on May 14, 2014 11:24AM
  • ShintaiDK
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    Paying for a buggy game should not be considered ok by any means unfortunately those supporting the game get satisfied with any **** you throw at them. End game content should have been included already...

    I also want a bug free OS, bugfree browser and so on. Its just not gonna happen. The cost and QA time would completely spiral out of proportions.
  • felixgamingx1
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    ShintaiDK wrote: »
    I also want a bug free OS, bugfree browser and so on. Its just not gonna happen. The cost and QA time would completely spiral out of proportions.

    Bugs in OS are tiny things 95% of ppl don't notice and takes time.

    This game just got big fat bugs right in your face saying I'm a giant fat
    Bug oh look the Devs don't know how to get rid off me yet, so You the paying customer will just have to swallow me or not play something you paid for!
    Edited by felixgamingx1 on May 14, 2014 11:55AM
  • Dita
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    I truly didn't read all this arguments above, so the only thing I can say is my gut says maybe ! Hope that helps !
    "Begun the Bot Wars has"
  • AngryNord
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    Face it, they're not gonna do that. They could've gotten away With it during the first week, perhaps, but not now.
  • Fairydragon3
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    lol....no
  • Blackwolfe5
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    I've been having a blast with the pvp, barely nibbled at the content (almost done with Deshaan) and heck, not even done any group dungeons yet. Taking the game away and relaunching it in a 6-12 months would likely do far more damage than good.
  • felixgamingx1
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    I've been having a blast with the pvp, barely nibbled at the content (almost done with Deshaan) and heck, not even done any group dungeons yet. Taking the game away and relaunching it in a 6-12 months would likely do far more damage than good.

    Lol you still in Deshaan... When you're more seasoned you will think differently.
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