Population shrinking, please BRING CROSSPLAY QUICK

shadyjane62 · December 2024

All I can do is hold off on any more purchases until I see what's up with new thing.

I have little hope for the future.

fizzybeef · January 10

There have not been any announcements about this in the stream yesterday, are there any new infos?

licenturion · January 10

fizzybeef wrote: »

There have not been any announcements about this in the stream yesterday, are there any new infos?

There have been: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/67411

fizzybeef · January 10

licenturion wrote: »

fizzybeef wrote: »

There have not been any announcements about this in the stream yesterday, are there any new infos?

There have been: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/67411

I read about that but thats not about the cross play isnt it? I seen Kevin from zos writing here, they are working on something.

Is this what was meaned by that?

fizzybeef · January 12

Dojohoda wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

My question is, how exactly do you propose Zeni to fix what's ultimately a community problem?

This is Zeni's problem. It's on Zeni to keep their customers. I'd guess the big things from this year that are causing population dips are lack of questing content, another being the performance problems going on since early this year which are being investigated, and another being the various problems arising from the new battlegrounds. These are major items and are in addition to old griefs such as Cyrodiil lag, YO-YO mech changes to name 2 things out of many. It's not that players hate the game (generalizing here, some do), it's just not enjoyable to waste free time on what appears to be an unreliable system. Heck, there is lag inside my eso house and it's just me in there.

agreeing on this

amiiegee · March 24

While it seems like the NA server has not got these issues, i can tell on the Playstation EU server the population seems lower nowadays. I would really like to see crossplay betwen the plattforms.

DUTCH_REAPER · March 24

My guild just came back to ESO like a month and a half ago. We are here to participate in the PVP changes/testing. I have high hopes but ZOS consistently lets me down with regards to PvP. But we will see.

As far as the community population, yes it is extremely noticeable that it has decreased. We said that the first day we were back.

Since being back we have recruited 3 brand new players. Like brand new. We helped them get gear, some guidance and now they are doing vet dungs and trials with us.

I think ZOS and current players need to focus on new players. Most of the player base seems to be brand new. At least when I am in towns I see very low cp players. So players who have a guild and are established should whisper them. Don’t just plaster your guild recruitment in chat. Actually talk to them and get connected. I truly believe this is the only way to save the game from a “what can we as players do” to help.

gamesandmoreb16_ESO · March 24

Addons like Beameup are also a good indication of dwindling population, 5 Guilds and sometimes even places like Stormhaven doesn't have a Guildie to port to... Guild Traders are on life support, etc. The only reason the game isn't completely dead yet is because there isn't another decent replacement for this genre, once there is... nails in the coffin, unless this game REALLY starts listening to the players instead of dictating to us.

olsborg · March 24

People in the guilds im in and my friends are tired of how cyrodiil is now, if its not laggy its either full of ballgroups, these pullgroups with rushing agony or permablockers and trolls. The real cyrodiil pvp is all but extinct. Proccsets and metasets make for a bad experience in cyrodiil.

sans-culottes · March 24

shadyjane62 wrote: »

All I can do is hold off on any more purchases until I see what's up with new thing.

I have little hope for the future.

I’m sorry you feel that you have little hope for the future.

amiiegee · March 25

e="gamesandmoreb16_ESO;c-8284100"]Addons like Beameup are also a good indication of dwindling population, 5 Guilds and sometimes even places like Stormhaven doesn't have a Guildie to port to... Guild Traders are on life support, etc. The only reason the game isn't completely dead yet is because there isn't another decent replacement for this genre, once there is... nails in the coffin, unless this game REALLY starts listening to the players instead of dictating to us.[/quote]

I gotta agree with it, i believe crossplay (at least betwekn platforms) can save the game

XSTRONG · March 25

amiiegee wrote: »

e="gamesandmoreb16_ESO;c-8284100"]Addons like Beameup are also a good indication of dwindling population, 5 Guilds and sometimes even places like Stormhaven doesn't have a Guildie to port to... Guild Traders are on life support, etc. The only reason the game isn't completely dead yet is because there isn't another decent replacement for this genre, once there is... nails in the coffin, unless this game REALLY starts listening to the players instead of dictating to us.

It would be great if Zos could share active player base on each server because I definitely dont feel like my server PSEU is dead.

But I dont do much Trials or Cyrodiil so that part of the game might be dying.

Either way this game needs crossplay I agree on that.

amiiegee · March 26

could this be their first step into the direction of making crossplay possible?

Pevey · March 26

It's hard to say if it's the first step, but I think it would be great. I used to think that even with addons, PC players (I play on PC) would have too much advantage from KB+M. But then I met several players who do HM trials with a controller on PC, so...

Yeah, I think it would be great to further consolidate the player base. The megaservers is one advantage ESO has over other MMOs, IMO. It would be smart to lean into that right now as a defensive move.

twisttop138 · March 26

amiiegee wrote: »

could this be their first step into the direction of making crossplay possible?

I think cross play would be awesome. That said, I think that add on support for console is not a precursor to cross play. I believe the devs have stated that it's not a possibility with the mega server architecture. Possible? Of course. But you have to look at it this way. What's best for the players isn't always what's best for the investors. I have a hard time seeing them throw large sums of money at a 10 year old game.

I think add on support is just something that is a long time coming for console. We've been the QOL step children since console launch. I don't think it's right that ZOS farms out things to unpaid devs that should be base game. See mini map, skyshards, a way to price items effectively and quickly, though I don't think that one's coming.

As far as the game being dead or dying. I've heard that before. In more then one game that still is around. There's no denying the issues present but I'm still having fun. My guild are still active. When that changes, then I'll reevaluate. I feel bad though that some people's guilds are dead or dying. Hopefully this new change they're talking about next month turns things around.

tomofhyrule · March 26

amiiegee wrote: »

could this be their first step into the direction of making crossplay possible?

If only there were a whole thread dedicated to that exact topic: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8282636#Comment_8282636

I feel like whenever someone posts the word “crossplay,” it should just automatically post links to every monthly thread we get on the topic. I think there are probably three threads on the front page alone that are pushing for crossplay, and it’s getting annoying seeing people refusing to read anything of the matter posted before.

Briefly:

The existence of addons or the relative economies are not a factor in making Crossplay available. It is because the current architecture does not allow for it.
ESO’s megaserver architecture is different from other MMOs in that any player on the same megaserver can play together without jumping from one server to another, but that also means transfers between servers are not possible.
Because of this architecture, crossplay would require a merged megaserver.
ESO currently does not have a tool to merge megaserver data, and the devs do not plan to make one.
ZOS should start to look into doing this though, because the populations are declining. However, this will take time to make a tool and bugtest it.

amiiegee · March 26

tomofhyrule wrote: »

amiiegee wrote: »

could this be their first step into the direction of making crossplay possible?

If only there were a whole thread dedicated to that exact topic: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8282636#Comment_8282636

I feel like whenever someone posts the word “crossplay,” it should just automatically post links to every monthly thread we get on the topic. I think there are probably three threads on the front page alone that are pushing for crossplay, and it’s getting annoying seeing people refusing to read anything of the matter posted before.

Briefly:
The existence of addons or the relative economies are not a factor in making Crossplay available. It is because the current architecture does not allow for it.

ESO’s megaserver architecture is different from other MMOs in that any player on the same megaserver can play together without jumping from one server to another, but that also means transfers between servers are not possible.

Because of this architecture, crossplay would require a merged megaserver.

ESO currently does not have a tool to merge megaserver data, and the devs do not plan to make one.

ZOS should start to look into doing this though, because the populations are declining. However, this will take time to make a tool and bugtest it.

Thank you for showing this thread but i respectfully disagree to your point that every crossplay post should be directed to this thread you sent, because following reasons :

1. This here is by far the largest and most viewed crossplay thread + its not hidden in some sub topics, its in general discussion, wich is accurate imo.
2. The first quoted answere in the thread you sent is not by zos, its by some player who gave a grounded opinion onto the topic, but still he isnt a zos employe and isnt in charge, he cant know whats going on more then you and me, can only imagine the technical aspects and have a opinion on the topic, wich is totally fine.
3. The second quoted response in the thread you have linked is by zos_kevin but its in a different thread about a different topic with another context!

If you search in THIS thread here, you will find a statement by Kevin, saying they are looking into things in the context of crossplay.

It was a vague statement and he wasnt promising anything.

But since all that i think the idea of they are potentially doing the addon things aswell with the idea of making crossplay possible in the future, is not so wrong at all.

At least i feel like it was posted here in the right place, after all.

fizzybeef · March 28

amiiegee wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

amiiegee wrote: »

could this be their first step into the direction of making crossplay possible?

If only there were a whole thread dedicated to that exact topic: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8282636#Comment_8282636

I feel like whenever someone posts the word “crossplay,” it should just automatically post links to every monthly thread we get on the topic. I think there are probably three threads on the front page alone that are pushing for crossplay, and it’s getting annoying seeing people refusing to read anything of the matter posted before.

Briefly:
The existence of addons or the relative economies are not a factor in making Crossplay available. It is because the current architecture does not allow for it.

ESO’s megaserver architecture is different from other MMOs in that any player on the same megaserver can play together without jumping from one server to another, but that also means transfers between servers are not possible.

Because of this architecture, crossplay would require a merged megaserver.

ESO currently does not have a tool to merge megaserver data, and the devs do not plan to make one.

ZOS should start to look into doing this though, because the populations are declining. However, this will take time to make a tool and bugtest it.

Thank you for showing this thread but i respectfully disagree to your point that every crossplay post should be directed to this thread you sent, because following reasons :

1. This here is by far the largest and most viewed crossplay thread + its not hidden in some sub topics, its in general discussion, wich is accurate imo.
2. The first quoted answere in the thread you sent is not by zos, its by some player who gave a grounded opinion onto the topic, but still he isnt a zos employe and isnt in charge, he cant know whats going on more then you and me, can only imagine the technical aspects and have a opinion on the topic, wich is totally fine.
3. The second quoted response in the thread you have linked is by zos_kevin but its in a different thread about a different topic with another context!

If you search in THIS thread here, you will find a statement by Kevin, saying they are looking into things in the context of crossplay.

It was a vague statement and he wasnt promising anything.

But since all that i think the idea of they are potentially doing the addon things aswell with the idea of making crossplay possible in the future, is not so wrong at all.

At least i feel like it was posted here in the right place, after all.

I agree, i can not see them saying, that it is not possible. And the quoted comment by Kevin is about another topic, wich is not related to the crossplay topic. But also realisticly i do not see it coming anytime soon.

alpha_synuclein · March 28

tomofhyrule wrote: »

[*] Because of this architecture, crossplay would require a merged megaserver.
[*] ESO currently does not have a tool to merge megaserver data, and the devs do not plan to make one.

They somehow managed to merge pts with live servers data quite recently though.

ragnarok6644b14_ESO · March 30

alpha_synuclein wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

[*] Because of this architecture, crossplay would require a merged megaserver.
[*] ESO currently does not have a tool to merge megaserver data, and the devs do not plan to make one.

They somehow managed to merge pts with live servers data quite recently though.

Uploading the wrong database that's the right size is easier than uploading the right database at seven times the size

SkaiFaith · March 31

I know, I know, cross-play is hard etc... But playing on Xbox EU server can make the very concept of playing really hard - spent 2 and a half hours today in queue for 8v8 Battlegrounds and not a single match found; it was also at busy times: 5:30-6:45pm and 9:30-10:45pm.
I'm a veteran player, and I was discouraged and disappointed. Now imagine a new player...
I'd hope cross-play would alleviate the problem.

kurbbie_s · April 1

Pevey wrote: »

It's hard to say if it's the first step, but I think it would be great. I used to think that even with addons, PC players (I play on PC) would have too much advantage from KB+M. But then I met several players who do HM trials with a controller on PC, so...

Yeah, I think it would be great to further consolidate the player base. The megaservers is one advantage ESO has over other MMOs, IMO. It would be smart to lean into that right now as a defensive move.

There is no advantage over a controller in ESO. I play with a controller and have never used keyboard and constantly top the boards in PvP and PvE. Completely untrue.

amiiegee · April 13

SkaiFaith wrote: »

I know, I know, cross-play is hard etc... But playing on Xbox EU server can make the very concept of playing really hard - spent 2 and a half hours today in queue for 8v8 Battlegrounds and not a single match found; it was also at busy times: 5:30-6:45pm and 9:30-10:45pm.
I'm a veteran player, and I was discouraged and disappointed. Now imagine a new player...
I'd hope cross-play would alleviate the problem.

It would indeed solve the problem.
If the playerbase becomes bigger you wont have these issues most likely.

More people with the same interest in activities like you = more going on

SpiritofESO · April 14

Oceanchanter wrote: »

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

I've definitely noticed over the last couple of years that people are a lot less chatty and willing to socialise. I guess the problem with catering more to short term players is that you also take away a lot of incentive for players to stay long term.

To throw my 5 cents here, as one of those "less chatty players".

I don't know about others, but I've always been playing solo and chat as little as possible for 2 reasons:

2. The less you chat the safer your account is, that is my motto.
I've seen and read a lot of horror stories from other games I play.
All it takes is to be at the wrong place, at the wrong time, talking to or in presence of the wrong person; and I'm not even talking about obvious and undeniable TOS breaking.

The news about people getting flagged and suspended for private chats due to the automatic system did confirm my fears it's risky to talk other things than business.

Made me glad I don't talk to people.

Agreed. Also, with me, there is a serious issue with immature, sarcastic, snarky and even toxic players who act as trolls just to start online arguments. I don't play to do that. I play for enjoyment and mutual respect among players... not verbal combat.

For a long time I have realized that one of the major problems with online games is the bad attitudes of our fellow players. At this point, most of the time I play with the chat box turned off.

And don't get me started on how many vulgar names players create.

amiiegee · May 1

may 2025 PS EU

First evening of new campaign GREYHOST in prime time.

Cant even fill all bars. Why exactly arent they working on crossplay at least betwen the same plattforms??

amiiegee · May 1

Meanwhile on the NA server who are like 6-7 hours behind us.

This is a joke

icapital · May 1

amiiegee wrote: »

Meanwhile on the NA server who are like 6-7 hours behind us.

This is a joke

how come us PC players don't have that cool pie visual for player count? we have this weird table with bar charts.

amiiegee · May 2

icapital wrote: »

amiiegee wrote: »

Meanwhile on the NA server who are like 6-7 hours behind us.

This is a joke

how come us PC players don't have that cool pie visual for player count? we have this weird table with bar charts.

idk but at least yous have players on your server

frogthroat · May 2

I see many Necromancer mains in this thread.

amiiegee · May 2

frogthroat wrote: »

I see many Necromancer mains in this thread.

Its literally up to date so why are you compaining?