New Skill Styles

cicisch · March 10

Hello! There are 5 new skill styles with this update that were not mentioned in the patch notes. While 4 are fairly self explanatory, the Soul Trap, Carmine Red skill style achievement text doesn't give any indication on how to obtain the necessary fragments. @ZOS_Kevin, can you please see if these were accidentally left off in the notes, or see if we can get any guidance from the achievement text? Thanks!

AScarlato · March 10

Out of curiosity, what are the other skill styles? - Oh just googled.

https://alcasthq.com/eso-update-45-skill-styles/

cicisch · March 10

3 are purchasable from Maj for Undaunted Keys (80 total), and Entropy, Violet Purple is obtainable through an achievement.

Lap Seclusa and Exiled Redoubt also have two new skill styles as rewards for achievements.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · March 10

Still no skillstyles that are more subtle effects and doesn't add unnecessary bright colours to things like swinging a weapon.

AngryPenguin · March 10

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors? Why is ZOS spending so much time on minor cosmetic stuff like this instead of focusing on performance and balance changes?

Stx · March 10

I want new skill styles for wrecking blow and stampede!

Also new skills styles for hurricane and boundless storm that don’t make your whole character translucent please

ZOS_Kevin · March 10

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors? Why is ZOS spending so much time on minor cosmetic stuff like this instead of focusing on performance and balance changes?

The folks who work on cosmetics and other assets are not the same people who work on performance. Those are different teams with a different set of skills. We do have engineers actively working on improving performance and another team working on balance changes based on player feedback and in-game play data.

ZOS_Kevin · March 10

cicisch wrote: »

Hello! There are 5 new skill styles with this update that were not mentioned in the patch notes. While 4 are fairly self explanatory, the Soul Trap, Carmine Red skill style achievement text doesn't give any indication on how to obtain the necessary fragments. @ZOS_Kevin, can you please see if these were accidentally left off in the notes, or see if we can get any guidance from the achievement text? Thanks!

We can check on this and add to the notes. Thanks for flagging.

Stx · March 10

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors? Why is ZOS spending so much time on minor cosmetic stuff like this instead of focusing on performance and balance changes?

Yes! Skill styles are awesome and the system should be expanded upon!

tomofhyrule · March 10

cicisch wrote: »

Hello! There are 5 new skill styles with this update that were not mentioned in the patch notes. While 4 are fairly self explanatory, the Soul Trap, Carmine Red skill style achievement text doesn't give any indication on how to obtain the necessary fragments. @ZOS_Kevin, can you please see if these were accidentally left off in the notes, or see if we can get any guidance from the achievement text? Thanks!

IIRC from PTS The fragments come from the new ‘mini-dolmen’ events (forgot what they were called, but the ones that were in basegame zones where three enemies popped up from a portal). Those have been changed a bit, and I think they now drop the fragments.

cicisch · March 10

IIRC from PTS The fragments come from the new ‘mini-dolmen’ events (forgot what they were called, but the ones that were in basegame zones where three enemies popped up from a portal). Those have been changed a bit, and I think they now drop the fragments.[/quote]

Yes, the Alcast guide clarified that - it just didn't come up when I did a quick Google and I didn't see the new skill styles mentioned at all, so I wanted to flag it for inclusion and guidance. Haven't found one yet today but hopefully we'll start seeing them soon!

Maitsukas · March 10

cicisch wrote: »

IIRC from PTS The fragments come from the new ‘mini-dolmen’ events (forgot what they were called, but the ones that were in basegame zones where three enemies popped up from a portal). Those have been changed a bit, and I think they now drop the fragments.

Yes, the Alcast guide clarified that - it just didn't come up when I did a quick Google and I didn't see the new skill styles mentioned at all, so I wanted to flag it for inclusion and guidance. Haven't found one yet today but hopefully we'll start seeing them soon!

They start appearing after you complete the the new Prologue quests.

AScarlato · March 10

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors? Why is ZOS spending so much time on minor cosmetic stuff like this instead of focusing on performance and balance changes?

I do because I'm a roleplayer. Right now I'm playing a druid, so things like Green Wall of Elements is something I'd like for my character.

I more hope eventually for new animals for the warden animal skill line. The focus on Vvardenfell doesn't work for me and I'd snatch up other animals ASAP.

For my playstyle I get more enjoyment from stuff like this than various changes to balancing lol.

Erickson9610 · March 10

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors?

I'm still waiting on some Skill Styles for Werewolf Transformation. I can't use any of my existing cosmetics while I'm transformed, so at the very least I'd like to be able to choose my fur color (and I don't want to nerf my combat ability just to use brown fur!)

tomofhyrule · March 10

Erickson9610 wrote: »

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors?

I'm still waiting on some Skill Styles for Werewolf Transformation. I can't use any of my existing cosmetics while I'm transformed, so at the very least I'd like to be able to choose my fur color (and I don't want to nerf my combat ability just to use brown fur!)

[cries in nerfed combat ability because my werewolf is supposed to be grey/brown so I have to keep it unmorphed]

If nothing else, can we please get the three base colors (grey/brown, black/white, and pure white) as Skill Styles already?

Erickson9610 · March 10

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors?

I'm still waiting on some Skill Styles for Werewolf Transformation. I can't use any of my existing cosmetics while I'm transformed, so at the very least I'd like to be able to choose my fur color (and I don't want to nerf my combat ability just to use brown fur!)

[cries in nerfed combat ability because my werewolf is supposed to be grey/brown so I have to keep it unmorphed]

If nothing else, can we please get the three base colors (grey/brown, black/white, and pure white) as Skill Styles already?

I also want the grey fur that NPCs use. It's slightly different from the brown that players use when they don't morph the transformation skill.

nadrokal · March 12

Maitsukas wrote: »

cicisch wrote: »

IIRC from PTS The fragments come from the new ‘mini-dolmen’ events (forgot what they were called, but the ones that were in basegame zones where three enemies popped up from a portal). Those have been changed a bit, and I think they now drop the fragments.

Yes, the Alcast guide clarified that - it just didn't come up when I did a quick Google and I didn't see the new skill styles mentioned at all, so I wanted to flag it for inclusion and guidance. Haven't found one yet today but hopefully we'll start seeing them soon!

They start appearing after you complete the the new Prologue quests.

New prologue quests? Are these available somewhere other than the crown store? Or were they only on the pts?

LunaFlora · March 12

nadrokal wrote: »

Maitsukas wrote: »

cicisch wrote: »

IIRC from PTS The fragments come from the new ‘mini-dolmen’ events (forgot what they were called, but the ones that were in basegame zones where three enemies popped up from a portal). Those have been changed a bit, and I think they now drop the fragments.

Yes, the Alcast guide clarified that - it just didn't come up when I did a quick Google and I didn't see the new skill styles mentioned at all, so I wanted to flag it for inclusion and guidance. Haven't found one yet today but hopefully we'll start seeing them soon!

They start appearing after you complete the the new Prologue quests.

New prologue quests? Are these available somewhere other than the crown store? Or were they only on the pts?

prologues always become available a bit later after an update releases, my guess is after April's ESO direct on April 10

sarahthes · March 12

nadrokal wrote: »

Maitsukas wrote: »

cicisch wrote: »

IIRC from PTS The fragments come from the new ‘mini-dolmen’ events (forgot what they were called, but the ones that were in basegame zones where three enemies popped up from a portal). Those have been changed a bit, and I think they now drop the fragments.

Yes, the Alcast guide clarified that - it just didn't come up when I did a quick Google and I didn't see the new skill styles mentioned at all, so I wanted to flag it for inclusion and guidance. Haven't found one yet today but hopefully we'll start seeing them soon!

They start appearing after you complete the the new Prologue quests.

New prologue quests? Are these available somewhere other than the crown store? Or were they only on the pts?

They were on PTS, and usually become available in game around when the spring reveal stream happens.

nadrokal · March 12

Thanks. I had a feeling it was a pts thing.

Elrond87 · March 13

before i took break i see dk had some different colour ability's but now i come back they have vanished was it a one time thing to claim?

cicisch · April 10

Hi @ZOS_Kevin - just wanted to flag this for you again and that the new dark fissure types don't seem to be spawning for those of us who have completed the prologue quest. Will that happen after the livestream?

THANK YOU for all you do!

Stx · April 10

Do werewolves have any skill styles other than Roar verdant green?

LadyGP · April 10

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors? Why is ZOS spending so much time on minor cosmetic stuff like this instead of focusing on performance and balance changes?

There are different devs that work on those changes - studies can easily multitask on these kind of things.

LadyGP · April 10

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Do that many players care about skill styles and colors? Why is ZOS spending so much time on minor cosmetic stuff like this instead of focusing on performance and balance changes?

The folks who work on cosmetics and other assets are not the same people who work on performance. Those are different teams with a different set of skills. We do have engineers actively working on improving performance and another team working on balance changes based on player feedback and in-game play data.

Yeah, what Kevin said lol.

DenverRalphy · April 10

sarahthes wrote: »

nadrokal wrote: »

Maitsukas wrote: »

cicisch wrote: »

IIRC from PTS The fragments come from the new ‘mini-dolmen’ events (forgot what they were called, but the ones that were in basegame zones where three enemies popped up from a portal). Those have been changed a bit, and I think they now drop the fragments.

Yes, the Alcast guide clarified that - it just didn't come up when I did a quick Google and I didn't see the new skill styles mentioned at all, so I wanted to flag it for inclusion and guidance. Haven't found one yet today but hopefully we'll start seeing them soon!

They start appearing after you complete the the new Prologue quests.

New prologue quests? Are these available somewhere other than the crown store? Or were they only on the pts?

They were on PTS, and usually become available in game around when the spring reveal stream happens.

Yeah, the prologue quest popped in the Crown Store this morning.

ZOS_Kevin · April 10

cicisch wrote: »

Hi @ZOS_Kevin - just wanted to flag this for you again and that the new dark fissure types don't seem to be spawning for those of us who have completed the prologue quest. Will that happen after the livestream?

THANK YOU for all you do!

We are investigating this now. Not sure about details yet as the team is digging into it. But once we have more info, we'll pass it along. Thanks for the callout!

BergisMacBride · April 16

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

cicisch wrote: »

Hi @ZOS_Kevin - just wanted to flag this for you again and that the new dark fissure types don't seem to be spawning for those of us who have completed the prologue quest. Will that happen after the livestream?

We are investigating this now. Not sure about details yet as the team is digging into it. But once we have more info, we'll pass it along. Thanks for the callout!

It’s been six days without another word on this issue. Any updates, @ZOS_Kevin? Thanks in advance.

Pixiepumpkin · April 16

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Still no skillstyles that are more subtle effects and doesn't add unnecessary bright colours to things like swinging a weapon.

ya, I don't really get "skill styles" that are just terrible recolors. Like the Sorc Winged pet..that red is just absolutely terrible looking. It looks like the absolute minimum effort was made to create it.

The arcanist blue looks good, things like the wall of elements turning into leaves is cool, but the ones like the winged sorc pet really need to be revisited.

Ragnarok0130 · April 16

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Still no skillstyles that are more subtle effects and doesn't add unnecessary bright colours to things like swinging a weapon.

ya, I don't really get "skill styles" that are just terrible recolors. Like the Sorc Winged pet..that red is just absolutely terrible looking. It looks like the absolute minimum effort was made to create it.

The arcanist blue looks good, things like the wall of elements turning into leaves is cool, but the ones like the winged sorc pet really need to be revisited.

There’s definitely potential to be a great system here instead of just using recolors of skills. For example as a Templar main we’ve hated the new spear model and animation since it was changed for no reason. With this system there’s the potential to allow us to use the old model and animation since we’ve seen other actions’ models and animations be changed such as harvesting actions or recalling that you can get with crown crates or as preorder bonuses. I understand the flurry animation change has similar distaste in the community so allowing us to revert to what we want would be a rare player first move from ZoS using systems already in place.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · April 16

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Still no skillstyles that are more subtle effects and doesn't add unnecessary bright colours to things like swinging a weapon.

ya, I don't really get "skill styles" that are just terrible recolors. Like the Sorc Winged pet..that red is just absolutely terrible looking. It looks like the absolute minimum effort was made to create it.

The arcanist blue looks good, things like the wall of elements turning into leaves is cool, but the ones like the winged sorc pet really need to be revisited.

The red twilight was such a disappointment after so many years of people wanting skins of the sorc pets. It's just a glowy colour swap that makes it even more intrusive than before.

If we shall get just a colour swap, then I rather have one that gives all the pets updated models with better texture, colour and animations. The base game light purple pets look awfully dated.

But mostly I want skins that makes them different daedra. Like turning the twilight into a fire atronach, the scamp into a banekin or such.

Same thing should wardens get different animal skins for the ultimate bear. So odd to have a bear when all other animals are Morrowind theme. Which itself is weird for a class that is supposedly connected to the Green, Y'ffre and such.