f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »I never cease to be amazed at Fan-Boyz blindness to the factual state of a game. No matter how obvious it is. They will defend it against all logic and reason. Decry any attempt to correct its march to failure. And oppose any step that might help the game, but at the same time admit there might be a problem of any sort. So tragic, so typical.
My guild is a smallish guild that has played a few mmos. We have 51 playing ESO and only one isn't subbing at the moment but that's due to real life issues.
Yes I think the CS has been awful, yes there are things that need urgently addressing (how long it sometimes takes to log into Cyrodiil for example) but this is not the game it was a month ago, many many things have been fixed.
My main is just finishing Rivenspire, when I started playing, every single dungeon had bots in, some quests couldn't be completed, playing pvp with vamps and their bats became almost pointless.
Now:
I started an alt, have done the first 2 starter islands and 3/4 through Glenumbra and not found one quest bug or one bot in any dungeon.
I am on the last couple of quests in Rivenspire, having recently completed the excellent quest chain in Doomcrag. Not found one of them bugged, not had to re log to get something to spawn, all been perfect.
I have done all 5 of the scull and crossbones bosses, all public dungeons and I have not come across 1 bot in any of them in fact when I had fun finding obsidian scar very challenging by myself, I joked in guild chat saying if only they hadn't got rid of the bots, I wouldn't keep dying.
I pvp a bit and I love it. Tonight we had our first big guild PvP session, a couple of vets, most of us well under 50, more like between level 20 and 40.
It took a while for some of us to get in due to a que (eu server bloodthorn) and we all had excellent fun. About 5 pvp regularly, the other 10 don't. We managed to claim our first keep for our guild, we chased the scroll halfway across the entire map (along with loads of others not in our group) died time and time again due to the hordes of enemies we kept running into, those of us that pvp all the time commented on how much better pvp was now the vamps have been nerfed.
I left my guild still at it after 4 hrs, tons and tons of action, thinking your winning then seeing about 100 enemies coming at you from 3 directions was great fun.
My point being:
Yes I do think they launched it too early, I've yet to see an mmo that isn't. But I also think many of these issues would never have come to light until it was launched, so we would still have had problems whenever.
When I compare doing the 2 starter areas and Glenumbra now with an alt, to early access last month, it's almost incomparable, so many things fixed, so few problems now.
I know there are issues that need addressing, the bots in Coldharbour, the mat gathering bots, game bugs, lag, loading times or what ever problems people run into, but they have done a superb job in fixing many things in this short time since release and if thats any indication of how things will continue, then I am really looking forward to the future.
Their road ahead announcement is the icing on the cake for me.
I understand some people have had many more problems than I have and I understand why for some the game isn't what they expected, I just wanted to give an alternative point of view from someone whose entire guild is loving it (a friend has a guild of 97 and they are all subbing too) . These threads, while i understand and sympathise with the problems many have had, imply everyone is unsubbing, no one is happy, but from those I meet in game, the opposite is true.
Only zenimax know how many people leave, if 2000 find themselves unhappy for whatever reason and leave in a vocal manner it can look like the game is doomed, but the chances are, thousands and thousands more are happy playing, and most of those probably never even visit the forums.
Why not just link the actual post?
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/03/14/eso-road-ahead
Now, that also says will be polished and lag free launch experience, which is complete b.s. and we all know it, but out of context seems to promise much more than it actually does.
Its vague enough to be explained away, but specific enough to be quoted. I don't think it was an accident to be worded in such a way.
I just did all the quests on the VR2 map and only got to 74% - the rest I need will have to be grinded and need to find groups for the dolmens and public dungeon bosses...you really won't enjoy the journey if you like to solo.Nox_Aeterna wrote: »i want vr10 , which means just that i want to do most quests on all zones , before i quit.
Once i have checked the story , then probably i will leave to play other things , there is no solo content after that anyway heh.
There really aren't that many people on the VR2 map.Nox_Aeterna wrote: »I just did all the quests on the VR2 map and only got to 74% - the rest I need will have to be grinded and need to find groups for the dolmens and public dungeon bosses...you really won't enjoy the journey if you like to solo.Nox_Aeterna wrote: »i want vr10 , which means just that i want to do most quests on all zones , before i quit.
Once i have checked the story , then probably i will leave to play other things , there is no solo content after that anyway heh.
Hum weird , right now im vr5 , did not have many problems , usually i just wait until people show up for the world bosses (some of these it is not hard to solo even )/anchors/public group dungeons...
Only thing im skipping is the vet closed group dungeons , those i really jump over , which might explain why i need so much exp for vet6 , even at the end of vet5 area lols.
Then again , i wonder if that will lock me , or if i can keep going if i have the quests done.
f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »*Laughs* Those of you commenting on my posting name really don't have a clue, do you? Perhaps you should get some information on how things work before you insert foot-to-mouth.
f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »I never cease to be amazed at Fan-Boyz blindness to the factual state of a game. No matter how obvious it is. They will defend it against all logic and reason. Decry any attempt to correct its march to failure. And oppose any step that might help the game, but at the same time admit there might be a problem of any sort. So tragic, so typical.
f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »The PC version of the game is now, without question, simply a Beta test and Debug for the Console versions. The delay of the console release proves the point.
It is time to suspend the monthly subscription charges until, at least, the game is ready for release. And, that will be when it is released for console systems.
To not do this is going to cost the game a tremendous number of subscribers (permanently), hurt the bottom line, and give the publishers a black eye they will probably never recover from.
Be smart.
Do the right thing by the folks who put up their money.
Because we sure aren't getting the "Polished and Lag Free" experience we were promised.
f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »@magickats242cub18_ESO
You do understand that if I was not subbed for the next month, I would not be able to post here, yes?
f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »@malikwalker_ESO
Once again, probably should not comment about posting name if you don't know what is going on.
As to the game engine, it is the Hero Engine. The same engine that is used in SWTOR; and ESO is having almost the same set of issues with it as EA/Bioware had.
Make of that what you will.
f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »@malikwalker_ESO
Once again, probably should not comment about posting name if you don't know what is going on.
Dissolution_Reborn wrote: »The last few generations coming up sure are a bunch of self-entitled [snip].
I'm constantly amazed at how much time and effort haters will put into slamming a game. If you stop talking, you will find the door behind you. Bye.f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »I never cease to be amazed at Fan-Boyz blindness to the factual state of a game. No matter how obvious it is. They will defend it against all logic and reason. Decry any attempt to correct its march to failure. And oppose any step that might help the game, but at the same time admit there might be a problem of any sort. So tragic, so typical.
f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »The PC version of the game is now, without question, simply a Beta test and Debug for the Console versions.
We are only 35,000? :'(michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »Don't even make posts like this. You're just asking to be flamed by the 35,000 hardcore fans of this series.
Although I do agree with you, I'm the only support you'll get.
MasterSpatula wrote: »This is both the best and worst MMO I've ever played. On the one hand, it is so well-crafted, beautiful, engaging, and immersive. On the other hand, it's overflowing with awfulness, both of ZOE choices and of bugs that go far beyond what's remotely tolerable.
I can't agree that we deserve to play for free until console release, but I really can no longer put up an honest argument against the notion that it feels like we're playing a beta.
Dissolution_Reborn wrote: »The last few generations coming up sure are a bunch of self-entitled @sshats.
All MMO's have issues when they release, some more than others. If you enjoy the game, the concept and its potential it should build a certain sense of loyalty to the game.
That means sticking it out when times are a little rough.
And seriously...15 bucks a month? I spend triple that on one night at the bar. If 15 bucks is gonna make or break you, definitely drop your subscription. It would be irresponsible not to.