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It Is Time To Suspend The Subscription
Innocente
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The PC version of the game is now, without question, simply a Beta test and Debug for the Console versions. The delay of the console release proves the point.
It is time to suspend the monthly subscription charges until, at least, the game is ready for release. And, that will be when it is released for console systems.
To not do this is going to cost the game a tremendous number of subscribers (permanently), hurt the bottom line, and give the publishers a black eye they will probably never recover from.
Be smart.
Do the right thing by the folks who put up their money.
Because we sure aren't getting the "Polished and Lag Free" experience we were promised.
It is time to suspend the monthly subscription charges until, at least, the game is ready for release. And, that will be when it is released for console systems.
To not do this is going to cost the game a tremendous number of subscribers (permanently), hurt the bottom line, and give the publishers a black eye they will probably never recover from.
Be smart.
Do the right thing by the folks who put up their money.
Because we sure aren't getting the "Polished and Lag Free" experience we were promised.
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✭Yep. Best money I've spent for leisure-time enjoyment.Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
Lo Behold, AD Thornblade NA (formerly Haderus, inactive)5 -
Innocente✭✭✭✭Not saying that the sub should be canceled or used up during the period of suspension. Just that they stop charging on it until the game is ready for release to consoles.2
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yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Who promised "Polished and Lag Free"?
Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.8 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hum , not yet , i want vet10 before i quit."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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✭NoFernwood, EP Haderus NA
Lo Behold, AD Thornblade NA (formerly Haderus, inactive)1 -
epoling✭✭✭✭Same as Artemiisia. Most polished MMO I have played at this point in release and it seems to be getting better with every patch. Console delay probably has more to do with having to make some basic code changes to run on the console machines and servers.4 -
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THIS!Artemiisia wrote: »just paid for the next 6 mouth and im gonna enjoy life
Yes, there are some horrible problems and the bots are in total control but I'm loving most of the game and am giving ZOS a nice long time to fix the nasties .. I'll see how it is when my next renewal happens.4 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@f2pmmogamescub18_ESO why is your name so long? sigh. Regardless. Source?Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.1 -
Zepheric✭✭✭If a game developer promised you a bug and lagfree MMO and you believed it, well thats your problem. However I doubt anyone at Zenimax ever said anything to that effect.Sanguine's Tester2 -
I have to say that this game has to be one of, if not, my favorite RPG/MMO of all time. I am enjoying myself thoroughly, and my best friend is a WoW convert (which is a feat my friends, lol!).3
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"We will make sure that no matter where you live, every player in North America, Europe, Oceania, and many places beyond will have a polished, lag-free launch experience," Firor promised.If a game developer promised you a bug and lagfree MMO and you believed it, well thats your problem. However I doubt
anyone at Zenimax ever said anything to that effect.Edited by Dita on May 13, 2014 6:08PM"Begun the Bot Wars has"5 -
Innocente✭✭✭✭I never cease to be amazed at Fan-Boyz blindness to the factual state of a game. No matter how obvious it is. They will defend it against all logic and reason. Decry any attempt to correct its march to failure. And oppose any step that might help the game, but at the same time admit there might be a problem of any sort. So tragic, so typical.8
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yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why not just link the actual post?
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/03/14/eso-road-ahead
Now, that also says will be polished and lag free launch experience, which is complete b.s. and we all know it, but out of context seems to promise much more than it actually does.
Its vague enough to be explained away, but specific enough to be quoted. I don't think it was an accident to be worded in such a way.Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.4 -
The only negative experience in ESO is those that make it negative.1 -
Innocente✭✭✭✭@f2pmmogamescub18_ESO why is your name so long? sigh. Regardless. Source?
Reddit AMA. Well documented and published web-wide. Search it name and quote, you will find it.
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Adrastes✭✭✭getting frequent rollbacks after hard dungeon bossfights and constant need of dropping quests and relogging while playing my ebonheart quests really *** me off so much im close to pull the trigger with my sub.1
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✭f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »I never cease to be amazed at Fan-Boyz blindness to the factual state of a game. No matter how obvious it is. They will defend it against all logic and reason. Decry any attempt to correct its march to failure. And oppose any step that might help the game, but at the same time admit there might be a problem of any sort. So tragic, so typical.
Well , i dont deny the game got many , many bugs and that it is totally out of balance.
But i want vr10 , which means just that i want to do most quests on all zones , before i quit.
Once i have checked the story , then probably i will leave to play other things , there is no solo content after that anyway heh."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
-Hanlon's razor2 -
rotiferuk✭✭✭f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »I never cease to be amazed at Fan-Boyz blindness to the factual state of a game. No matter how obvious it is. They will defend it against all logic and reason. Decry any attempt to correct its march to failure. And oppose any step that might help the game, but at the same time admit there might be a problem of any sort. So tragic, so typical.
Let me guess, someone stole your sweet-roll.......Edited by rotiferuk on May 13, 2014 6:14PMEU Server.4 -
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But ... he pinky promised !
At work and cant play- so just enjoying being better then trolls / whiners here ...2 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭lets take it the other way around:
6 month 85 us dollar I think it is when I convert it from my currency
thats a whopping 2 us dollar a day, with updates and more maps/dungoens/stuff to come
The downtimes/bugs and so on, I can surely live with1 -
Innocente✭✭✭✭A note for you folks fond of Ad Hominem attacks:
An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.
Sound familiar, Boyz?3 -
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I just did all the quests on the VR2 map and only got to 74% - the rest I need will have to be grinded and need to find groups for the dolmens and public dungeon bosses...you really won't enjoy the journey if you like to solo.Nox_Aeterna wrote: »i want vr10 , which means just that i want to do most quests on all zones , before i quit.
Once i have checked the story , then probably i will leave to play other things , there is no solo content after that anyway heh.
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http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/13/technology/innovation/beta-testing/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Good luck ever finding a product that isn't ever an "ongoing" beta test through production.
Congrats, you win at the internet.Toktok - Vet8 Orc Templar - 2 Hand, Medium/Heavy Armor Grunt - Blacksmith/Clothier/Enchanter/Alchemist2 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭yeah lol it costs me ~$.50 a day to play so I'm
Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This is both the best and worst MMO I've ever played. On the one hand, it is so well-crafted, beautiful, engaging, and immersive. On the other hand, it's overflowing with awfulness, both of ZOE choices and of bugs that go far beyond what's remotely tolerable.
I can't agree that we deserve to play for free until console release, but I really can no longer put up an honest argument against the notion that it feels like we're playing a beta."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle3 -
yeah - for those thinking this is such a good thing: I dare you to try FF14, or even go old school and play Everquest2. I used to be such a burden on the EQ support because the game admins were such slackers. Then I played this game.2
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WylieCoyote1511✭✭✭f2pmmogamescub18_ESO wrote: »I never cease to be amazed at Fan-Boyz blindness to the factual state of a game. No matter how obvious it is. They will defend it against all logic and reason. Decry any attempt to correct its march to failure. And oppose any step that might help the game, but at the same time admit there might be a problem of any sort. So tragic, so typical.
Let them enjoy the game, everyone is different.
If you don't like it then just go. Stop trying to be Jesus and take disciples with you!
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