disguises conversion in update 45 retroactive?

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or do we need to go collect them all again?
  • Elvenheart
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    I assume it will convert the ones we still only have in our inventory, but I’m just guessing.
  • SilverBride
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    What if we don't have any disguises in our inventory? Do we just miss out?
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  • virtus753
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    PTS goes up in less than 24 hours, if all goes as planned (though NA servers are currently struggling...). We'll know then.
  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    i have a character dedicated to holding them.. i think i have every disguise in the game on him.

    wonder what i will do with him after..
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  • Soraka
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    I will be happy to have this stuff out of my bank and inventory.
  • Djennku
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    I went through on a toon who didn't have any quests completed, and was able to pick up all the disguises in an hour or so. Most you can get quickly after starting the related quests, and the longest it took for one was the one from kragenmoor, which needed most of stonefalls main story to access (aside from Remains-Silent if you don't have her unlocked yet).

    After doing so I can confirm that all disguises are able to be obtained. Some need the quest, others can be gotten post-quest.

    EDIT: UESP has a list of all of them and how to get each disguise.
    Edited by Djennku on January 13, 2025 1:38PM
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  • Danikat
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    I assume it will covert disguises you're already holding, but I don't think it will be able to covert ones you had at some point in the past but lost or deleted, because there's no way for the game to track that, so if you're not currently holding or wearing them you'll need to get them again.
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Well, there are add-ons that shows completed quests. So the "save" data are there in the game, they are just not show. So I assume it should work on every character who has done certain quest that rewards you with "disguise" item.

    So, technically, all you need to do is to just login to your character that has already done the quests, regardless of having or not having reward "disguise" items in your inventory.

    It is impossible to re-do the quests that you have already completed and it is also not outside of realms of possibility that some one may have done all quests on all characters with maxed character slot & sold reward "disguise" items to free up inventory space.

    It would be a serious design flaw if it required to re-do a quest on other character or login to a character that has "disguise" item in their inventory. I mean, imagine having to "delete" a character just to make new one to do the quests...
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on January 13, 2025 1:59PM
  • Djennku
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    We don't kno wanythng until PTS goes live, including just the notes. Might have to test it unless explicitly stated in patch notes. Hopefully within the next 6 hours or so we get more info.
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  • ZOS_Kevin
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    They will be retroactive if you have the related quest complete. We'll have more info on that in patch notes (we are staging those now).
    Edited by ZOS_Kevin on January 13, 2025 3:08PM
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  • Kelenan7368
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I assume it will covert disguises you're already holding, but I don't think it will be able to covert ones you had at some point in the past but lost or deleted, because there's no way for the game to track that, so if you're not currently holding or wearing them you'll need to get them again.

    The Game does know if you have completed the quest line that had any disguise as a part of the quest.
    I just don't know if in this update they will account completed quests or just convert what is in your inventory.
  • zaria
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    How will this work during the quest? I assume it will work like before.
    Like then first infiltrated No Shira Citadel. You have an option to buy an overpriced servant outfit or steal it from containers and if attacked you will loose it and have to do it again.
    Assumes you can not simply put on the costume?
    Yes you can do the mission without the disguise.
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  • Kyip
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    They will be retroactive if you have the related quest complete. We'll have more info on that in patch notes (we are staging those now).
    Thank you for this update.

    Will the patch notes cover if collected disguises count as polymorphs, skins, costumes, a new disguise category, etc?

  • SeaGtGruff
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    i have a character dedicated to holding them.. i think i have every disguise in the game on him.

    wonder what i will do with him after..

    I have a character who stores all of those disguises, plus a ton of those bits of clothing you find in barrels and such-- gloves, shirts, pants, boots, etc. I had planned to have each of my characters go through the clothing to put together s "street clothes" ensemble for when they're out and about town but aren't questing. :)
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    On PTS my main didn't have any of these stored and when I logged in they all showed up in my collections.
  • Luke_Flamesword
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    Will the patch notes cover if collected disguises count as polymorphs, skins, costumes, a new disguise category, etc?
    They are costumes and you can dye them!
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  • ghastley
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    They are costumes and you can dye them!

    I tried dying the servant's costume from the Stros M'kai quest and found that the two separate colors for the shirt and pants dye as one. The only way they can be distinct is to revert to the originals. No idea how many other ones will have channel issues, that was just the first random pick.
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    @ghastley Eeep! That Stros M'kai servant costume is the only one my elf wants! Although, another benefit of converting from disguise to costume will be that, unlike disguises, they hopefully won't revert to your vanilla hair/makeup bling.
    Edited by AcadianPaladin on January 15, 2025 12:34AM
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  • ghastley
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    I also didn't see what the third channel dyed. I expected the channels to be shirt, pants, belt, but got shirt+pants, belt, ???, so I suspect the pants are assigned the wrong channel.
  • Ilsabet
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    ghastley wrote: »

    I tried dying the servant's costume from the Stros M'kai quest and found that the two separate colors for the shirt and pants dye as one. The only way they can be distinct is to revert to the originals. No idea how many other ones will have channel issues, that was just the first random pick.

    I only tried dyeing like two costumes, but I ran into the same thing with the Crown Dishdasha. They used two dye channels for the leather strap, belt, and boots, and that left only one for all of the clothing. It looked like I was wearing jammies. :D
  • Jayne_Doe
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    So happy they've finally decided to add the disguises to our collections. I've been waiting for this ever since they gave mementos the same treatment YEARS ago!
    Edited by Jayne_Doe on January 15, 2025 9:28PM
  • magnusthorek
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    i have a character dedicated to holding them.. i think i have every disguise in the game on him.

    wonder what i will do with him after..
    Same. Well, not dedicated (nor do I have them all), but I have plenty to play around with :grin:
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  • Personofsecrets
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    They will be retroactive if you have the related quest complete. We'll have more info on that in patch notes (we are staging those now).

    I've been dearly holding on to the Hollow Moon garb for ages now. Please don't change it's appearance again. Thank you.
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    I've been dearly holding on to the Hollow Moon garb for ages now. Please don't change it's appearance again. Thank you.
    They aren't changing how any of them look, they're just being converted into Costumes.
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  • ZOS_Kevin
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    I've been dearly holding on to the Hollow Moon garb for ages now. Please don't change it's appearance again. Thank you.

    The understanding is the outfit should not change. It is just being converted to a costume. But we will pass this on to the team just to make sure they are aware of not changing the way things look.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

    The understanding is the outfit should not change. It is just being converted to a costume. But we will pass this on to the team just to make sure they are aware of not changing the way things look.

    Converting it into a costume may change its functionality to no longer hide appearance modifiers.
  • Elvenheart
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

    The understanding is the outfit should not change. It is just being converted to a costume. But we will pass this on to the team just to make sure they are aware of not changing the way things look.

    Someone else brought up a good point earlier about the dye channels. Is how they work being considered and tested? Someone is saying that you cannot have a different color for the shirt and pants, which will severely limit our ability to customize them.
    Edited by Elvenheart on January 16, 2025 9:11PM
  • Credible_Joe
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    Is this change to address how our characters' cosmetics revert when equipping a disguise? That's the impression I got; that instead of equipping a disguise quest item, we would instead use or otherwise activate an equivalent method to equip a collections costume cosmetic that WOULDN'T override all of our other appearance modifiers.

    And then the disguise would stay in our collections after.

    That's what I assumed when watching the stream, but has yet to be fully qualified.
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  • Elvenheart
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    Is this change to address how our characters' cosmetics revert when equipping a disguise? That's the impression I got; that instead of equipping a disguise quest item, we would instead use or otherwise activate an equivalent method to equip a collections costume cosmetic that WOULDN'T override all of our other appearance modifiers.

    And then the disguise would stay in our collections after.

    That's what I assumed when watching the stream, but has yet to be fully qualified.

    Yes, I’m curious too, and haven’t been able yet to test on PTS, if we already have the disguise converted to the costume on our account and we go to do one of the quests on a different character, will that character still find the disguise like normal in the basket, for example, and will it go into our inventory like normal until the end of the quest, at which point upon quest completion the disguise version just disappears? I assume the costume version does not have the functionality of being able to hide you from enemies like the disguise version does, correct?
    Edited by Elvenheart on January 16, 2025 9:24PM
  • Ilsabet
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    Elvenheart wrote: »

    Yes, I’m curious too, and haven’t been able yet to test on PTS, if we already have the disguise converted to the costume on our account and we go to do one of the quests on a different character, will that character still find the disguise like normal in the basket, for example, and will it go into our inventory like normal until the end of the quest, at which point upon quest completion the disguise version just disappears? I assume the costume version does not have the functionality of being able to hide you from enemies like the disguise version does, correct?

    The costume collectible is granted by the achievement for finishing the related quest. So the first time a player does that quest on their account, they'd use the disguise item like normal, and it just sits in their inventory and they can do whatever they want with it. When they finish the quest and get the achievement, a collectible version of the costume will be granted, independently of whatever they did with the disguise. So it's less of a conversion and more "here's another copy of that disguise but this one's a collectible for your account." The physical disguise isn't removed (outside of the usual losing it if you're spotted in the quest area), and they can still be kept in inventory or storage and equipped as an item.

    I checked out the servant's robes disguise in Abah's Landing on an alt that wasn't on that questline, after the account had gotten all of the costumes courtesy of my main character's quest completion. My alt was able to go right up to a basket and take a disguise and equip it, and I got a notice about how I couldn't crouch because it would draw attention. So that all seems to work like we're used to. I didn't check to see what would happen if I tried to use the collectible costume as a disguise, but I suspect you'd need to use the physical item while you're on the quest.

    As far as appearance modifiers, the physical disguises will still hide skins and stuff, so they can be used like they are now.
    Edited by Ilsabet on January 16, 2025 10:18PM
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