Elvenheart wrote: »

I can’t think of any other industry where a company says more information about what’s coming up is going to be revealed on [date] and [date] and some people take the attitude “That’s not good enough! We want answers NOW!” The sense of entitlement just boggles my mind. I too I’m looking forward to those answers, but I do not feel I have the right to demand them before ZOS is ready to give them.

You're hearing criticism/feedback and taking it as entitlement. That's not what's happening.

My wife and I have contributed thousands to this company up until U35. We would really love to support it again, but ZOS haven't done anything to prove to us that they are a company worth our wallet.

The people asking for more details are doing so because ZOS have a proven track record of withholding information and then flat out dumping it on us in PTS week 1, only to have much of their ideas be logically flawed or completely absent from the reality of the game experience. It's then a crunch to try and get all the holes in the hull plugged before a sinking ship gets published.

U44 is a perfect example of this. They could have communicated that they were focusing on BGs months earlier and actually engaged the community to determine how to best manage the new system and how to have something functional delivered on patch day. They didn't do that, and so now my wife and I sit in 10-15min BG queues, waiting for a match to pop, and even when it does, there's a less than 50% chance that the game will even start because of 1 player who afk'd or was in combat during the 60 sec ready check.

These are really simple logical errors that could have been caught well before PTS week 1. They could have helped the BG guilds orchestrate more PTS events to actually test the new BGs and give ZOS more data on the match making system. Once again, they chose to not do that and so here we are.

I'm not demanding anything from ZOS. I'm explaining to them what I'd need to start opening my wallet again. I am a ready consumer. They can choose whether or not our wallet is important to them.

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RomanRex wrote: »

]I don’t want to invest either knowing there’s a big, ambiguous change coming in a few months. It’s better to pause and wait.

This.

Then that’s a decision anyone who feels this way has to make for themselves. Me, I’ve chosen to keep subscribing and wait for the reveal on Jan. 9th and the one in April. If I like what I hear, I’m going to keep subscribing, but if I don’t like the direction they are taking the game I may cancel. What I’m not doing is expecting ZOS to give me the info earlier than what they’ve stated just because I don’t want to wait. It’s that attitude that is boggling my mind right now.

Again, you're conflating people asking for engagement with people demanding something like an entitled child. They are not the same.

Here's what I think would have saved U44...

Date: July 10th, 2024
OP: @ZOS_Kevin

Subject: Feedback Needed: PvP sneak peak for U44

Hi everyone,

While we're not ready yet to deliver full details on what we're working on for the much hyped PvP system slated to arrive in Q4 at the end of the year, we would like to ask some questions to help guide us along and to ensure that our dev time best corresponds with the way you, our players, actually play the game.

We are now ready to reveal that this update is surrounding Battlegrounds! The team has been hard at work redesigning the battleground maps to bring forth an entirely new way for battlegrounds to be played: team versus team!

With this in mind, we'd love to know the following:

- Are you excited about the possibility of having 2-team battles, as opposed to 3-team?
- What are your thoughts on solo vs group queue?
- What are your thoughts on team sizes? 2v2? 4v4? 8v8?
- What are your thoughts on the queuing? Does our current queue system work for you? How could we improve it?

Etc. Hopefully you get the point by now.

You know what's awesome about this? They don't even need to care! Seriously. They don't. They could continue to ignore the forums, but the illusion of choice and agency is sometimes indistinguishable from actual choice and agency. ZOS could forever hide behind the facade by saying, "we looked into your feedback, and this is what we found to the best path forward." Their current strategy of silence, silence, silence, silence, then DRAMA, SHOCK, AND AWE on PTS day 1 doesn't afford them this, so they always lose.

Obviously that's not what I want as a consumer, but the fact that ZOS doesn't already do this is what boggles my mind more than me sharing feedback boggling yours.

At the best, they could have learned some valuable info prior to devoting resources to it. At the worst, it's business as usual.

"Re-log to Nvidia App."

What about SteamDeck users?

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Ingenon wrote: »

@ZOS_Kevin Thanks for posting this January 2025 Monthly Roadmap!

I am curious about what time the January 9 Livestream starts. I would like to rearrange schedule and watch it. Will it start at 1 PM EST like the December Livestream did?

Twitch Drops Fest - OK, I logged into twitch.tv and cleaned up my streamers list. Multiple streamers I had watched play ESO in the past who are not streaming ESO now, so I unfollowed them. And I see on https://elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/streamers that several new streamers have been added. The roadmap picture shows drops of a mount and either a costume or style.

And a Pan-Tamriel Celebration that overlaps a new Golden Pursuit? Whoa! Maybe next time put them one after the other, instead of both overlapping?

Just following up here. The livestream is scheduled for 2pm ET. Here is the article.

Thanks!

Its similar for UK times, the article says 7pm GMT, facebook ESO account says 7PM BST which is summer time. I'm assuming GMT is correct, but for people outside of the US and UK, having a mix of unfamiliar acronyms is going to make it tricky for them to convert to their local time accurately

I hate to be so often the bringer of negative posts, but if that is what the situation calls then I will not hesitate to bring it up.

And sadly the situation at the moment looks like that there will be not much of new content coming up or anything big and feels like the year 2025 will be a silent one in ESO. But I get it that in every game there are years like that.

Sadly we also have great many problems going on within the game at the same time and either those problems are still being ignored or the work done to fix them takes a very long time.

Maybe this is all because there is not enough staff to work on these, I do not know, but I hope things will get better hopefully sooner than later. ESO is a great game and it really deserves more care and commitment. I have always felt like this game could be so much more and gain more attention, but for some reasons "they" are not reaching enough to seize it. But I keep hoping for a really big change to happen towards betterment.

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Laddey wrote: »

RomanRex wrote: »

]I don’t want to invest either knowing there’s a big, ambiguous change coming in a few months. It’s better to pause and wait.

This.

Then that’s a decision anyone who feels this way has to make for themselves. Me, I’ve chosen to keep subscribing and wait for the reveal on Jan. 9th and the one in April. If I like what I hear, I’m going to keep subscribing, but if I don’t like the direction they are taking the game I may cancel. What I’m not doing is expecting ZOS to give me the info earlier than what they’ve stated just because I don’t want to wait. It’s that attitude that is boggling my mind right now.

Who said anything about unsubscribing?

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Laddey wrote: »

Elvenheart wrote: »

Laddey wrote: »

RomanRex wrote: »

]I don’t want to invest either knowing there’s a big, ambiguous change coming in a few months. It’s better to pause and wait.

This.

Then that’s a decision anyone who feels this way has to make for themselves. Me, I’ve chosen to keep subscribing and wait for the reveal on Jan. 9th and the one in April. If I like what I hear, I’m going to keep subscribing, but if I don’t like the direction they are taking the game I may cancel. What I’m not doing is expecting ZOS to give me the info earlier than what they’ve stated just because I don’t want to wait. It’s that attitude that is boggling my mind right now.

Who said anything about unsubscribing?

That was in response to the ones who said they are unsubscribing before any of the information is revealed just because they think it might not be what they want to hear or because ZOS wasn’t answering their questions before they are ready to reveal the information on the announced reveal dates. I think the exact words were “It’s better to pause and wait.”

Noted.

For the avoidance of doubt, I was referring to investing in terms of purchasing crowns, farming gear, and other activities which require an abundance of time.

That being said, I have no problems in the updates to the game but buffing Relequen is cray cray.

I've also seen some old names reappearing in Cyrodil recently which is good..

@ZOS_Kevin is there going to be a set time for the Twitch Drops event to start up? they have them stated to start today January 20th, and haven't started yet/ Just curious if they are pushing the start times back?

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@ZOS_Kevin Will there be any Drops for those of us who already own the Grim Harvester costume and the Sungold Bay mount?

Ooooof yeah... glad these are available for folks, but surprised they didn't even include one crate or like a quick pet reskin or anything for long time players.

It's not that I personally need a reward, I'm happy to skip the whole thing... but I think it does the streamers a disservice, as part of the potential audience will see the drops that are available and move on to something else.

Twitch drops "fest"? Consider me "underwhelmed".

An 11 day event requiring 4 hours of watch time.
Reward: 3 items. THREE! And not ONE crate!

Now, I understand many people may not have these items, and it's good that they can now. But this "fest" is sorely lacking.

For comparison, Sea of Thieves is doing an 11 day event (the same 11 days as ESO) with a 6 hour watch time.
Reward: 13 items. THIRTEEN! To be fair, 7 of them are outfit pieces (hat, gloves, boots, etc...). The rest are body cosmetics, (beard, hair, etc...) Still vastly better than 3!

No Man's Sky periodically does 4 day events.
Each day has a 4-6 hour watch time.
Each day rewards 4-6 items.
Each day's rewards are different.
The total event gives 20-24 items.

ESO does a 4 day event with 1 hour watch time for ONE Twitch crate.
Why is ESO so stingy with the Twitch crates? It's not like the 4 Crown gems per crate is going to break the bank.

With this "fest", even it it was 1 crate a day after 1 hour of watching PER DAY. Would that be so bad?

If you (ZOS) wants to engage the community and streamers, you need to up the ante. Make it worth the viewers time to watch the streamers. This will in turn, bring more viewership to the streamers. Win-Win for everyone.

The "watch time" is usually cumulative and carries over between difefrent elligible streamers. There may be e few minutes buffer time for the stream to actually to register, but that's negligible.
You can find all ongoing drop events via the Twitch window (don't have access now for the exact menu item, but you will find it).
Also, if you browse for streams on a topic (like "Elder Scrolls Online"), the hits listed will be marked as "drops enabled" if eligible. The ESO website also hosts a schedule for streams.

Coerfroid wrote: »

...but actually I came here for another question:
Golden pursuit is supposed to start today, but yet I found no official announcement on the details. Still coming?

Probably around 8 am EST.

And there is NOTHING they could offer that would ever get me to watch streams of any kind.

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TaSheen wrote: »

Coerfroid wrote: »

...but actually I came here for another question:
Golden pursuit is supposed to start today, but yet I found no official announcement on the details. Still coming?

Probably around 8 am EST.

And there is NOTHING they could offer that would ever get me to watch streams of any kind.

small correction, 10AM EST

Oh, oops. Yeah, blew the time zone - 8 am MY time, sorry! Definitely not enough coffee, especially at 14 degrees F.