[PvP] Ranged attack spam in large scale

xylena_lazarow · April 20

The Sorc buffs in u41 brought not only a lot more range spam from all the new Sorcs, but also everyone else running more ranged attacks to try to fight them. More than ever you're constantly being bombarded by 41m range attacks from enemies you can't see and/or can't engage, because they're on the roof, inside a zerg, or off your screen and gone before you turn your camera. It's no wonder players build passively tanky or for fast LoS, there's just not much you can do.

This problem only gets worse with Scribing in u42 because for some reason they made all the powerful attacks 28m range. So on top of all the Crushing Shocks and Snipes, prepare to be nuked by ultimate-strength knockback aoes into oblivion damage executes by untouchable ranged enemies, who may even be in an organized group with stacked heals while doing this. Expect a lot more ranged standoffs stalemating, and a lot less of the fun melee brawling that many of us enjoy.

Sheuib · April 20

Melee has always had to deal with ranged attacks in pvp. Nothing really new here. I don't think you can get any worse than the pull bomb meta.

NyassaV · April 20

You can attach defile to the scribing spammable. Just don't PvP next patch.

moo_2021 · April 21

why did they even buff pvp range in the first place?

how could melee even close the range? I'm going to get Esoteric Environment Greaves and ice staff...

silky_soft · April 21

Remove the range buff from battlespirit and give it to all gap closers.

Savos_Saren · April 21

I think ZOS did help out certain classes by giving them an option to have a shield through the scribing system. That helps out a little.

For instance- a NB can now cast a Soul ability that gives them a shield, purge, and minor expedition. This should help just before cloaking away.

It will at least help counter some ranged attacked- and perhaps purge that pesky debuff: Elemental Susceptibility. (which pulls NBs out of stealth)

Seraphayel · April 21

Sorry, but melee in PvP has always been king of the castle, especially in larger groups / zergs and even in PvP. Most ranged builds can’t be played at range for long because of how easy it is to gap close, snare or whatever. Scribing doesn’t change anything in that regard as people shooting from walls with ranged attacks was always a thing and is nothing that was introduced with Scribing.

xylena_lazarow · April 22

Seraphayel wrote: »

melee in PvP has always been king of the castle

That's by design, because if melee isn't king, then it ceases to exist, i.e. guns driving swords out of the real world meta.

It's also worth adding that things like knockbacks and oblivion damage are NOT dependent on a player's stats or sets, so get ready to be stun locked then executed by 55k hp Warden healers. I really don't understand the RANGED oblivion thing when they've worked so hard to remove every other threatening stat-independent damage source from PvP. If flat scaling melee MDW needed a nerf, then this ranged nonsense needs to be deleted from the game and launched into the sun.

biminirwb17_ESO · April 22

Just had a play with scribing - ranged dots He he he

Just a little rood.