Maybe, PS4 will be similar to PC though, as you don't have to pay for premium service, xbox live will require a premium sub, so bots will have to pay twice, which reduces the profit.

As far as bot programs running on consoles, dunno. Guess we will have to wait and see.

zaria wrote: »

On the other hand the bot problem will be far lower in 6 months, not saying they will go away but they will move out of sight and use pretty obscure methods for farming like instanced dungeons.

Yes... however remeber mates of ESO land just report the bots. You are costing them $$$ and making ZeniManx some $$$ as well. Bot hunting is actually quite fun once you get used to it.

zaria wrote: »

Runing bots on consoles will be hard, you will either need an cracked console, an pc who manages to fool the server into beliving its an console or an pc who send data to the server, not sure if any of this is practical enough for farming.

Bots based on packet sniffing, which make up a good percentage of them won't be affected.

KerinKor wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Runing bots on consoles will be hard, you will either need an cracked console, an pc who manages to fool the server into beliving its an console or an pc who send data to the server, not sure if any of this is practical enough for farming.

Bots based on packet sniffing, which make up a good percentage of them won't be affected.

Yes packet sniffing and manipulation will not be affected, has the benefit that it can be run on a separate computer from game and so is impossible to detect client side. However who don't they encrypt at least some of the data like the keystrokes?
Would make packet sniffing hard, yes you could still use an hacked client but would be ways to detect this.

KerinKor wrote: »

Jade_Knightblazerb14_ESO wrote: »

Would rerolling on the Console be better to leave this Bot infested MMO version behind?

Wait? What?

You mean console and PC players are going to be segragated?

WTF?

PC, Xbox and PS4 will have separate servers.
Multiple reasons, pc has mouse, keyboards and addons.
Updates, xbox and ps4 will have to get the client updates verified making it hard to synchronize this.
Some chance they will add platform dependent features like kinetic support or other future features and this would be hard or unfair if it was on one server.

KerinKor wrote: »

Jade_Knightblazerb14_ESO wrote: »

Would rerolling on the Console be better to leave this Bot infested MMO version behind?

Wait? What?

You mean console and PC players are going to be segragated?

WTF?

Why this surprises you? It has always been so.

Final Fantasy XI is kind of an anomaly, as typically MS doesn't allow cross platform play with XBOX servers.

The biggest difference between consoles and PCs are that PCs are much more open. Everyone can run a bot on their computer. A console however is much more locked down and needs a lot more work to get bots running. No, it's possible, but it's a lot harder.

That extra step of necessity means that only the technical know-hows will run bots on consoles. The rest won't bother with it. So a logical assumption would be that it would be far less bots on consoles than it is on the PC platform.

I think that in order for PCs to become the next step on gaming platform, it needs a secure system like Steam that makes hacking and cracking a game a chore, rather than something that can be done with 10 minutes of googling. I spent those 10 minutes of research and I found at least 5 ways to run a bot network on on ESO account. However if you try to search up how to crack and hack a Steam running game, it requires a bit more workaround.

So maybe it's about time PC developer companies starts embracing a unified platform like per example Steam, just to make it inconvenient enough to bot so at least 50% of would-be botters stop before they've even started.

Fruity_Ninja wrote: »

I always planned to go to console. It's always a better environment in regards to hacking, for some reason PC gaming just tends to attract it.

What great news that we can transfer our character/s.

Its not that it attracts it, PC hacks/trainers and bot programs are much easier to make and run then a console one. thus PC will always have more hackers. i have found a few that even a 6 yr old can set up (not for eso but L2 back in the day)

Kyosji wrote: »

Wait...last I heard the console versions were supposed to be played on the same mega server. That was the reason they stated we get so few skill slots, so the console versions could match it with their controller. This is a bummer....

The "they" who said that has never been Zenimax, it's just been people speculating as to why they made that choice. I think there are valid reasons they could make that choice completely independently of consoles. (For example limiting skills to a smaller number makes your choices count much more, and the trade-offs become far more significant.)

How I would deal with bots.

Ok, so first, I would allow a specific amount of time to analyse individual character behaviour on the server, for every bot reported would be investigated and scrutinised to the point where no doubt can be left. After it is certain, and all avenues of communication are exhausted [as in having tried to contact the bot creator and failed as they are NOT there] then I would move onto phase two. It would be a mirror server, kind of like a back up, with all the geography and specifics of the game server, but with no enemies, no loot, no chests and no resources on, a Ghost server, essentially, with just the scenery. Well, having catalogued said bot, that bot would be transferred to the ghost server, in purgatory, the void, essentially. Having done this I would create an automated service that does all of this, and it would be adaptive, which means it would learn as it goes and become ever faster at recognising bots. This of course, would become the ultimate deterrent, as bot creators come to check up on their creations, and find themselves stuck in purgatory, with no hope of monetary gain, the practice would eventually die out as each bot they create is cast into the void almost on the moment of creation. Also, and I am pretty sure ZOS could do this, for every bot created illegally and often with an unwitting 3rd parties money the account would be frozen, and the unwitting party notified, which would lead to hopefully, essentially the prosecution of the party responsible for the bot at the hands of the law. After all, it IS theft and they ARE criminals. Such deterrent would hopefully prove too much for any would be scum on earth [as bot creators ARE scum on earth] which can only be hoped would cure this cancer, for good. [at least on ESO]

Etch,

Good point on the console itself getting banned too! Boy, this makes me hope now more than ever that the console versions do actually launch at some point!

Funny, I made that exact point over a week ago or so about this very thing @Etchesketch you thief.

Creepsley wrote: »

as of bot hunting, i challenge you to report all the bots at the coldharbour city wayshrine :P they never stop appearing, its a steady stream of bots coming from there hehe.

A good hunter never hunts all of his prey; you must leave some to continue on, or the sport will dwindle and die.

Blackhorne wrote: »

Creepsley wrote: »

as of bot hunting, i challenge you to report all the bots at the coldharbour city wayshrine :P they never stop appearing, its a steady stream of bots coming from there hehe.

A good hunter never hunts all of his prey; you must leave some to continue on, or the sport will dwindle and die.

Some of us WANT that sport to dwindle and die. Some of us want ESO to be free of them, so we can get on with playing the damn game without having to contend with damn bots and gold-spammers CONSTANTLY intruding on our virtual fun.