NoTimeToWait wrote: »This wouldn't be an "improvement" for me. I don't use TTC because I don't sell on traders, and it's pretty rare I buy on them. But the devs spending time on this would mean something I WOULD use might not be added.
Thank you for your input, but I would argue that a significant portion of the population, if not a majority, uses TTC and could benefit from an in-game solution which draws directly from ZOS' own data rather than relying on the players who have installed the tracking add-on and use an unreliable website which serves you advertisements and tracks your browsing habits.
In Minion you can check the number of downloads of an addon. It's not that big compared to overall number of ESO accounts (even counting potential installs not counted via Minion). I would argue that a single digit percentage of players uses TTC from this data.
I don't mind if there would be an integrated tool like this made by ZOS, but I am fine without it.
I think the integrated tool will have a negative effect on prices (since people would be able to clear the price base line more effectively simply because more people would be able to search for cheaper items), this will result in a significant price inflation
I think I'm missing your point about the add-on download rate. I'm not worried about how many people have downloaded the add-on (though I don't use it), I'm more concerned about the website itself, the fact that it's run by someone outside of ZOS and that it's a bad and unnecessary user experience for a feature which should be managed by ZOS.
The price inflation argument doesn't really make sense to me either because it's not as if TTC's data isn't reasonably accurate right now.
personally i think they should remove it from the game. It may be a minority opinion but i think this addon and addons like it only serve to hurt the game, and absolutely go against what was originally intended for trading in this game.
It also allows people to inflate prices, and it removes a lot the "skill" of trading. Sure, knowledge still makes a very big difference but most players just brainlessly post things for whatever TTC tells them to, and sometimes they lose because of it. Im honestly not sure why zos has allowed it to exist for so long. You would think if they wanted a centralized auction house they would have designed the game in that way. This is just the same but run by players with no one from zos to oversee it.
I get that, but without a centralized way to find things you want, people are relegated to going from vendor to vendor and that is an incredibly time-consuming process which can actually lead to even higher prices because nobody really knows how prices should really be set. At least with a more centralized search system a seller can get an idea of where a price tends to live and they can compete with each other, like in an actual economy. We need a system that respects our time and I don't think that TTC should be the de facto service provider for that aspect of the game. ZOS can and should be doing it.
LadyLavina wrote: »Well hey @Danikat , haven't seen you around in a while. Thrilled to see you're still at least forum-active. Not common to see folks from the 2014 gang around these days. (I waited...like 3 years to get on the forums so I'm 2017 despite being launch/2014 myself x_x ) . Hope you're well.That's why I'd prefer ZOS to include the functionality in the game itself, they'd be able to do it much better than an addon can. But for now it's the best option available if you don't want to spend ages checking traders basically at random to find an item.
As for this though, I agree. There are many more pressing issues (as important as this one might be to us) that need to be addressed before this is messed with. I hope this is addressed eventually , but it will likely be a back-burner item until the more critical things are sorted.
There will always be something critical for ZOS to do or fix. They just need to make it a commitment to do something about it, then do it.
This has been an issue for years that they have chosen to ignore, and it's only getting worse with each land update as they add more and more trading spots. With over 200 spots now, it is really impossible to search all of them on consoles without taking the whole day to do it and handwriting down the information such as price and location. We deserve better!
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At the end of the day you cannot argue that this is not how zenimax intended trading to be. If they wanted a centralized auction house thats how they would have made things. But again, i think if theyre going to allow somthing like TTC they should do it themselves and put it on all platforms. It should not be left to random addon creators, not when its an addon that so many people use and has such a massive impact on pricing in the game.