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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Even if we go under, it'll be okay.

  • mutharex
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    Hell if WAR lived for what, 6 years or 7 and AoC is still open....
  • Lanatireb17_ESO
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    less than 5, and AoC is f2p
  • mutharex
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    less than 5, and AoC is f2p

    That's my point!!! Thank you
  • Requiemslove
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    I am here for the foreseeable future, I may well not play too often, and in truth wait for the console releases. I do play MMOs but I have an issue with this one. Its the way you look around and move. Yes, the keyboard is fine, I'm used to that but the devs need to add a function where you don't have to use the mouse to look around as it leads to physical issues that way. I do want to stay, and would have no issues if the darn pad-importer app I downloaded actually worked...or was even there to begin with. Best for me, and what I want to see is for them, the devs, to support that function officially, so if you WANT to use a control pad [and I do cause this game is trying to KILL my right hand] you can do so without having to risk potentially shady software.

    This game has the potential to be truly EPIC. If they could make it so that when the game does eventually release on consoles that there is a degree of crossover between PC/XBOX/PS4 that would be amazing, as well as being kinda unique. Whether they do that or not, is up to them, but I do think they NEED adaptability when it comes down to the issue of keyboards, mouse and game controllers.
  • Lanatireb17_ESO
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    surprises every day. never knew you actually had a point. When you found out what it is, feel free to let us know. So far all you post is attacks against critics.

    Now, dont start again, please. Just check the last...lets say...50 or so of your post and find one that is not a direct or indirect attack on someone critical.

    I know what you will say, you will tell me how all my posts are attacks on the defenders, and lately thats actually true. i even admit it, because im from germany, and i know what can happen when people follow blindly without questioning.
  • mutharex
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    Yeah Lana the only difference is you live in a fantasy world and have very little contact with reality. Or maybe you are just a hypocrite? same outcome...

    now, when you talk of defenders I can only pity you, but if you start calling us nazionalsocialists...
    Edited by mutharex on May 9, 2014 12:12PM
  • Lanatireb17_ESO
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    And again, no arguments, just attacks.
  • mutharex
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    Well you just said that you are attacking everyone who doesn't agree with you because they are like brown shirts, I think you are way beyond arguments
  • Requiemslove
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    @Mutharex and Lanatireb17_ESO

    You both make valid points. I will not sit here and argue your agendas, frankly I don't give a damn. Both of you have to shy away from getting personal. I suggest you do this.

    Now.
  • Lanatireb17_ESO
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    that is NOT what i said. That is what you like to read out of it. maybe cause its hitting a nerve, i dont know. but it is not even close to what i said.

    Dont try turning around the words im writing here. I never said i attack everyone that doesnt agree with me. THAT is what you do. What i DID say though is that i react unkind to people who dont question things and follow blindly, because thats how i was raised in germany.
  • mutharex
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    that is NOT what i said. That is what you like to read out of it. maybe cause its hitting a nerve, i dont know. but it is not even close to what i said.

    Dont try turning around the words im writing here. I never said i attack everyone that doesnt agree with me. THAT is what you do. What i DID say though is that i react unkind to people who dont question things and follow blindly, because thats how i was raised in germany.

    "all my posts are attacks on the defenders, and lately thats actually true. i even admit it, because im from germany, and i know what can happen when people follow blindly without questioning."
  • Lanatireb17_ESO
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    and again leaving out crucial words, arent we?

    I know what you will say, you will tell me how all my posts are attacks on the defenders, and lately thats actually true. i even admit it, because im from germany, and i know what can happen when people follow blindly without questioning.

  • Gohlar
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    and again leaving out crucial words, arent we?

    I know what you will say, you will tell me how all my posts are attacks on the defenders, and lately thats actually true. i even admit it, because im from germany, and i know what can happen when people follow blindly without questioning.

    Just report him and move on. He has no interest in genuine discussion about anything.
  • Lanatireb17_ESO
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    And you cant even tell me im wrong. When some people wrote about the rumors that the console release will be delayed, YOU and a few others immediately totally freaked out, calling 'FAKE'! 'TROLL'! And then when it all of a sudden was revealed that it was very true there wasnt even one word of an apology. Thats what i call being blind on one eye.
  • Requiemslove
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    Cut it out, both of you. If you cant agree to be civil to each other, and others maybe you should go different ways or just not ever bother commenting.
  • wrlifeboil
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    Cut it out, both of you. If you cant agree to be civil to each other, and others maybe you should go different ways or just not ever bother commenting.

    They might be trying to bait the forum mod into closing this thread. Rookie mods are easily fooled.
  • Lanatireb17_ESO
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    wrlifeboil wrote: »
    Cut it out, both of you. If you cant agree to be civil to each other, and others maybe you should go different ways or just not ever bother commenting.

    They might be trying to bait the forum mod into closing this thread. Rookie mods are easily fooled.

    nope, im not. im just sick and tired of him attacking everyone and then blaming it on them.
  • Alurria
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    And you cant even tell me im wrong. When some people wrote about the rumors that the console release will be delayed, YOU and a few others immediately totally freaked out, calling 'FAKE'! 'TROLL'! And then when it all of a sudden was revealed that it was very true there wasnt even one word of an apology. Thats what i call being blind on one eye.

    Seriously, find another hobby.
  • Cogo
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    Transorb wrote: »
    This is the first massively online Elder's Scrolls experience. For those of us who have played since the ES Arena days and earlier - we can only praise Zenimax/Bethesda for finally bringing Elder Scrolls online. This has been a longtime dream of many ES fans - and has always been perceived as "impossible."

    This is one of the first megaservers, as well as Elder's Scrolls' first online experiences, not to mention that is is massively online and split between PVP and PVE. Granted they had many beta runs, there are bound to be mis-steps and errors that come with launching a new game, with a new architecture, to target audience that already has smooth, solid running games like WoW and GW2.

    The turnout for this game is, in my opinion - outstanding. There are a tremendous amount of people playing this game - which with that brings lots of critics to the table. Give them a chance to fine tune and balance their system. Give them time to resolve the errors, repair some of the glitchy quests, and make some major interface improvements.

    Every game has its bugs - it would be ignorant to expect a game of this magnitude to be flawless. I sometimes wonder if players ever truly understand the profound complexities of making a game of this caliber. I have heard good friends, diehard games - expect the game to last not more than 6 months. This truly offends me, it is a great game that is providing an experience that has been LONG time dreamed of in the Elder Scroll community. They are doing a terrific job of handling the large inrush of people, and doing an even better job of continuously improving their experience.

    The only criticism I have, which I am not even sure of to be Frank, is that is appears they lack a general communication. Perhaps it is due to the large amount of people playing - and a general lack of staff to accommodate this.

    With the revenue generated by the thousands of people who bought the game, plus subscription fee's - I would expect, and hope - that Zenimax re-invests this revenue into in-game improvements. Give them some time, they are most certainly doing a great job of handling current issues, while planning ahead endless future entertainment - regardless of your level.

    Final words? Give them some time - for any of you who have played warcraft in its adolescent stages - I believe you can vouch that it was no better or worse in terms of needing adjustments, bug fixes, and interface improvements. ESO has such a profound potential to be better than all those who have previously led the way in the genre of MMORPGs.

    Give them a chance, don't be so quick to jump on the bandwagon and draw conclusions.

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  • Gohlar
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    wrlifeboil wrote: »
    Cut it out, both of you. If you cant agree to be civil to each other, and others maybe you should go different ways or just not ever bother commenting.

    They might be trying to bait the forum mod into closing this thread. Rookie mods are easily fooled.

    nope, im not. im just sick and tired of him attacking everyone and then blaming it on them.

    It's not going to stop until they finally ban him. Just report his antics and move on.
  • Requiemslove
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    And now you are siding one vs the other...this is EXACTLY what I am trying to get you to cut the hell out. @Gohlar. Saying that is as bad as what you imply Mutharex is doing. Now I aint saying one way or the other here that Mutharex does have an agenda or no, but you are lableing here.
  • Gohlar
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    And now you are siding one vs the other...this is EXACTLY what I am trying to get you to cut the hell out. @Gohlar. Saying that is as bad as what you imply Mutharex is doing. Now I aint saying one way or the other here that Mutharex does have an agenda or no, but you are lableing here.

    Sorry, he has a long history of hateful behavior here. I didn't just say this out of the blue. The list of names he's called people is pretty extensive.
    Edited by Gohlar on May 9, 2014 12:42PM
  • Lanatireb17_ESO
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    And now you are siding one vs the other...this is EXACTLY what I am trying to get you to cut the hell out. @Gohlar. Saying that is as bad as what you imply Mutharex is doing. Now I aint saying one way or the other here that Mutharex does have an agenda or no, but you are lableing here.

    You should just do yourself the favor of following Mutharex post history here. Luckiky for him, the bait-threads he started here just to cause a flamewar (which he even admitted himself) are pretty hard to find.
    But i seriously question that there is any post of him the last week or longer ago that was not a direct attack towards someone.
  • mutharex
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    Thank god my post history is as open to the public as yours, so people can see who has the history of hateful and arrogant behaviour
  • ZOS_LenaicR
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    Closing this thread, as our Community Code of Conduct does not allow for inflammatory posts.

    We welcome constructive discussion of the game, but threads dedicated only to flaming will be closed.

    Bear in mind that insults, naming & shaming and flaming aren't allowed on our forums.
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