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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Even if we go under, it'll be okay.

Johnny_NO_skillz
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I think a large portion of people's negative opinions about ESO come from the slightly disjointed fusion between a single player experience, and an online one. A lot of critics have hit on the fact it seem like throughout the entirety of the game, it can never quite make up it's mind for which play style it rather present to the player.

Honestly - I DO play MMO's for the online inter-connectivity and interaction with others, but I play ES for "me" time.

A lot of people fear the game going F2P - or that ESO will lose scores of people before devs get a chance to fix most of the issues.... As for me, I'm staying.

I'm staying because I like ES. I like the ES lore. I love things like the esoteric Dunmer culture, the unique and varied gods and daedra; I love the role playing opportunities, I love the idea of actually seeing the lands I've been told about in previous ES games.

When everyone (or most everyone) is gone, I won't care. Not one bit.

I mean outside of group dungeons, and end game content (that I'll probably never touch anyway, given my MMO track record :expressionless: ), I haven't had much of a reason to group up with other players outside of RPing and trading items/mats.

MMO? Yes. ES Game? Sort of - but the makings are there. And at least until ES6 hits the scene, I'll be kicking it in ESO...
Edited by Johnny_NO_skillz on April 28, 2014 2:46AM
  • txfeinbergsub17_ESO
    Don't worry, you won't be alone. Only the haters will be gone. My wife and I have subbed for 6 months each.
  • Leovolao
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    I'm also staying... I just really hope they make Cyrodiil smaller if everyone goes =/
    tea pot


    "What if my problem wasn't that I don't understand people but that I don't like them?"
  • Chelo
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    I going to cancel my sub until Devs add an Auction House...
  • Humor
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    I've no intention of really quitting the game... "Yet". I've subbed for 6 months, and I might not be playing everyday, and might even skip a month or two to come back and see what's new.

    Overtime depending on how the Dev's decide to develop ESO, I might be inclined to stay longer, or just straight up leave, and stop after the 6 moths of gameplay.

    So far, I'm impressed with the game, already beat the main story, and wishing there had been more. Took me 100+ hours to finish the Ebonheart campaign, and I'm fine with that. This is honestly the first Mmorpg, aside FF14 that I've actually listened, and read to the lore to. Of course, I'm no stranger to TES series either, so, it was interesting to see what they could put together, as myself, and many others have always dreamed about TES multiplayer, maybe in a different view such as Cooperative 1-4 players or something, but this did the trick.

    I can't say there are some parts of the game that aren't disappointing, but very few things in the game disappoint me.

    I'm hoping that the Dev's don't make the same mistake Guild Wars 2 did, and focus solely on PvP, in my mind, that's what kills a game, when you can't balance the two, PvP, and PvE. And considering it's an TES game, the game really shouldn't focus around PvP in my eyes.

    We'll see how it goes down the road. Suppose for now, I'll just continue trying to make some fancy builds.
  • Csub
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    Yes, as others said, haters and people who want to turn this game to perfectly suit their personal needs / preferences and cannot adapt will leave. I can`t say for sure if this game will remain P2P, no one can (people writing that it is a fact that this game will go F2P are either ignorant or they can see the future, but if they could see the future, they would already have won the lottery and would probably not play the game), but I am also saying, and don`t forget, mostly the negative people post on forums, forums are always like this. The majority is in Tamriel, enjoying the game!
    Edited by Csub on April 28, 2014 3:09AM
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
  • wrlifeboil
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    There are many problems in the game but it's not only the gameplay that's stirred up gamers. I went to amazon.com to look at the 60-day time cards. People dislike the game so much that they are down rating the time card! That's a really visceral reaction.

    I like the game but it isn't what it could've been. There were many little missteps that you wouldn't expected from a AAA gaming powerhouse in and out of the game.
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Honestly , this game makes for a poor MMO and a poor ES game , i agree with those reviews that said they got lost in the middle and got neither in the end.

    Now , im certain that there are many player who like this , middle ground spot , i would say the end result is a good game myself.

    But , i dont really see myself playing this for 6 months or even an year.
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • Audigy
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    The biggest mistake the Dev´s could make is putting all endgame behind instanced doors. This took away all the fun at wow and any other MMO of the past few years.

    In my opinion the open world is where people should play and not a city where they hit a button to enter a dungeon.
  • Arreyanne
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    Audigy wrote: »
    The biggest mistake the Dev´s could make is putting all endgame behind instanced doors. This took away all the fun at wow and any other MMO of the past few years.

    In my opinion the open world is where people should play and not a city where they hit a button to enter a dungeon.

    Oh NO's they might have to leave the city !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Arundo
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    I only play one game these days, because I'm getting old and life does not give me much time to play as when I was 16-20. I have chosen ESO to be that game for the long run. I played WOW for a long time, then GW2 but ESO is to me a far greater game. Sure both games are more complete but those have been around for years.

    I don’t care about the stuff we now miss, eventually they will be added somehow. I love the rich lore ESO has to bring, I spend time @ work on UESP just to read the various lore items. Maybe the game now is a thin MMO and more a single player experience but once the DEVS are done hunting bugs and exploits I expect them to make the quality of life better for us MMOers and ES fans.
    Edited by Arundo on April 28, 2014 7:16AM
  • awkwarrd
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    Ignorance is bliss.
  • jircris11
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    I paid 6 months for my friend and myself so yea. we will be here for a long time
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  • knaveofengland
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    its like anything else nearly all mmos have single+multi content . now you have to ask your self why do this , its simple most players are greedy farming etc etc etc, and want to play solo , also when game is many years old and new players want to join in and play , who is going to help them.
    you guessed it MR BLOBBY will help them quest omg Hello get real players
    another planet zog
  • mutharex
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    This game had so much hate before the NDA drop, that it was clear this would happen.

    Unfortunately there are too many people with emotional problems and an internet connection. It's pathetic
  • annarr1117nub18_ESO
    I'm staying aboard TESO mothership because the previous TES games that are Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim paved the glorious way for TESO folks!!!
  • LadyInTheWater
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    The only games I ever really sunk my teeth into were Star Wars: The Old Republic, and EVE Online.

    I love the skill-based system. It's nice having such a massive number of options while I build my character. I can opt for combat-related skills, or crafting, or even social skills (like persuasion from the Mage Guild skill list). I can mix and match them as I choose, or focus purely on one single aspect of my character. Plus, there are no restrictions for weapons or armor.

    The game is open-world enough for me to feel the freedom to explore at my own pace, yet streamlined enough for me to easily follow a chain of quests as well.

    The only reason I could ever see myself leaving Elder Scrolls Online would be if they added a global auction house. I've seen what it's done to Star Wars: The Old Republic, and I've heard what it's done to World of Warcraft (boyfriend still plays it). If that was ever added to ESO, I suppose I'd just go back to EVE.
    The moment you call someone stupid, or try to display your opinion as "fact", you lose all credibility.
  • gimmethecreepsb14_ESO
    wrlifeboil wrote: »
    There are many problems in the game but it's not only the gameplay that's stirred up gamers. I went to amazon.com to look at the 60-day time cards. People dislike the game so much that they are down rating the time card! That's a really visceral reaction.

    I like the game but it isn't what it could've been. There were many little missteps that you wouldn't expected from a AAA gaming powerhouse in and out of the game.

    People aren't disliking the game cards because of the game, they're disliking the gamecards because they don't feel they should have to pay a monthly fee to play an MMO.

    Because very few MMO's, at release and in their prime have ever had monthly sub fees. Only a few of them did, like Everquest, Dark Ages of Camelot, World of Warcraft, Everquest 2, Shadowbane, Lord of the Rings Online, Age of Conan, Rift, PlanetSide, Vanguard:Saga of Heroes, Ultima Online, Asheron's Call 1, 2 and 3, Warhammer Online, Star Wars TOR, Star Wars Galaxies, Final Fantasy 11, Final Fantasy 14, upcoming Titles like WildStar...hmmm...maybe there is a trend...

  • snigernissen
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    Comming from a loooong line of MMO's i have to say, this game is a refreshing touch for me.
    I like the game cause these days ( im getting older and older here ) i dont have as much playtime as i used to back in the young days of MMO's, and here i can be a casual player and have loads of fun without having to think of grindfests or epic raids that eats up so much time.
    On the plus side, ive always loved the Elder scrolls series and to me this game represents the old singler player games in a nice way but at the same time lets me have a nice community to interact with if i choose to do so.
    On the down side, the system we have atm is abit annoying at times but i see it like a diamond in the rough, sure it has flaws, sure it can be perfected, but these things takes time to do and im a strong ( if not optimistic ) beliver that, in due time, all will be well and the game will stand strong.

    So here is to ESO and for a bright future :)
    Cheers !!
  • KerinKor
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    Don't worry, you won't be alone. Only the haters will be gone. My wife and I have subbed for 6 months each.
    I have two accounts in the same state, we're not going anywhere. :)

  • knaveofengland
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    people will still be playing the game , the series has millions of fans.
  • Reb
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    If they change nothing and the game stays as it is now ...ill still be here in a couple of years :D
    yes there are things that need to be changed/fixed etc, but that's what i expected really.
    On the whole we are really enjoying the game, along with a great bunch of new people we have met since launch :)
  • snigernissen
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    Reb wrote: »
    If they change nothing and the game stays as it is now ...ill still be here in a couple of years :D
    yes there are things that need to be changed/fixed etc, but that's what i expected really.
    On the whole we are really enjoying the game, along with a great bunch of new people we have met since launch :)

    Oi hey reb :D c ya ingame :)
  • Greydog
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    Don't worry, you won't be alone. Only the haters will be gone. My wife and I have subbed for 6 months each.

    Oh, I'm sure that once those that speak with their wallets are gone there will still be plenty of hate to go around from those who like placing labels on anyone they don't agree with ;)

    "I Plan on living forever ..so far so good"
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    Asylum Amoebaeus ..A refuge for those who normally fly solo.
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  • Taid
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    This game will not go f2p or b2p until the consoleros arrive, and after this release they will check their numbers a couple of month after that. So in the end it depends what Zenimax brings itno the game until that point and how the player will react on that.

    But im pretty sure that the consoles will greatly help supporting this game. As usual i personally expect far more players from consoles than from pc at the end of the year.

    Anyways i will sub for the next 6 month :#
    You know the old saying.....Neither a Troll, nor a Fanboy be? :o

    RUBBISH!

    Without Trolls and Fanboys, how could we ever be able to sell anything? :#
  • Salsadoom
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    I think there are alot more reasons for the negativity then just a friction between single and MMO. To sum it up, it's a new game, every new game has it's detractors. No game is designed for 100% of the community (they wish they were) and never will be.

    The good news is once the 'I will never be happy with this game' people leave then the game will get better quicker with a more unified community and more specific goals.

    I like it, I am staying
  • mutharex
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    Last game that was going to 'die' and go F2P in 2-3 months ward FFXIV:ARR.

    Still going strong after more than a year. In a week people that like to post stuff like "I had a lot of hope but it's now clear the game is dying" will move to Wowstar and infect that till something newer comes out. Gogogo freemonthers!
  • Srugzal
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    deleted

    Edited by Srugzal on April 28, 2014 10:01PM
  • Taid
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    mutharex wrote: »
    Last game that was going to 'die' and go F2P in 2-3 months ward FFXIV:ARR.

    Still going strong after more than a year. In a week people that like to post stuff like "I had a lot of hope but it's now clear the game is dying" will move to Wowstar and infect that till something newer comes out. Gogogo freemonthers!

    MOre than a year? ARR has its official release last year August? They say they have 1,8 mio players, which i highly doubt, but what they have are the consoleros and some good updates since release.

    I would say if a game where the whole world is maybe as big as one zone in ESO theoretically^^ can stay with a sub-model for 9 month till now, eso could maaaaybe stay forever lol
    You know the old saying.....Neither a Troll, nor a Fanboy be? :o

    RUBBISH!

    Without Trolls and Fanboys, how could we ever be able to sell anything? :#
  • Srugzal
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    awkwarrd wrote: »
    Ignorance is bliss.

    So what is the point that you're trying to make? Is there one?
  • AlienSlof
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    I'm here for the long haul too - subbed for 6 months and loving this game to bits. I can solo when I want, group up when I want. Best of both worlds.

    If I see bots or get spam, I report them. I don't get mad and rage-quit. I'm patient and can just move on to another area. If I spot a bug, I report it in-game with a screenie where appropriate. I don't come raging to forums to spill my woes.

    I'm in a fantastic guild, got many long-time friends who play this game as well. This Slof is happy!
    RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.
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